RAC are clearly NOT Rotary engine experts...
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not exactly rip snorting performance then is it, expecially when you can get that from doing a civic engine swap over which is probably going to be more reliable in the long term ,let alone the short term
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not exactly rip snorting performance then is it, expecially when you can get that from doing a civic engine swap over which is probably going to be more reliable in the long term ,let alone the short term
Bare in mind its been around since the 50s.
Back in those days a 1098cc midget pushing out around 60ish BHP was considered a truly great sports car.
The later 1275 version was putting out 75bhp in high-compression format, a figure thats probably greater than my 1300 HCS, an engine thats 40 years newer (though granted based on an ancient design).
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actually I take that back before someone comes on here and tries to tell me the X-Flow engine is good!!
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i have no problems with old people using old engines to produce small amounts of power and then think they are tuning gods
i like the fact that there is a certain nostalgia in keeping the old ways alive
but it's like saying "my panani sticker collection in school was more complete than yours" when everyone else is now playing on their psp's and doesn't give a fuck
i like the fact that there is a certain nostalgia in keeping the old ways alive
but it's like saying "my panani sticker collection in school was more complete than yours" when everyone else is now playing on their psp's and doesn't give a fuck
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the first step in tuning any old engine is to remove it and bin it and fit one with more valves and capacity where possible unless limited by class rules, either legislated or self imposed (cossie top speed etc) there is no denying cars like rods would be faster with a large v8, and historic rallying minis would all be faster with small 16v engines in them.
doesnt alter the fact that the beetle engine is still more tuneable than the A series, and that subaru made a good call with their engine layout even if it is an arse to work on!
doesnt alter the fact that the beetle engine is still more tuneable than the A series, and that subaru made a good call with their engine layout even if it is an arse to work on!
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Beetle engines have a displacement advantage, they were available in larger sizes.
As soon as BMC tried making a large capacity engine they went bonkers and came up with the B series.![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Do I really have to concede victory to the Germans?
As soon as BMC tried making a large capacity engine they went bonkers and came up with the B series.
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Do I really have to concede victory to the Germans?
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They say if you cant beat em, join em.
So, considering a decent jap or german motor is way out of my price range.. whats it to be:
A 'Justy' or a base-model 1600 316 ?
Justy has cheaper tax.. so its got the edge at the moment.
So, considering a decent jap or german motor is way out of my price range.. whats it to be:
A 'Justy' or a base-model 1600 316 ?
Justy has cheaper tax.. so its got the edge at the moment.
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can just see it now... "yes mate, your wankle engine end plate is suspected to have failed" or isnt it easier to say head gasket...
To be fair tho its an easy mistake to make and even more so if coolant had traces of other substance in or had pressureised somehow.
cambelt... well.....
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so how do they get the shaft and lobes in then? there will be atleast one removable plate with a sealing gasket of some description on one end that he could of meant to be the head gasket (as what else would you call it that a normal person may understand?
can just see it now... "yes mate, your wankle engine end plate is suspected to have failed" or isnt it easier to say head gasket...
To be fair tho its an easy mistake to make and even more so if coolant had traces of other substance in or had pressureised somehow.
cambelt... well.....
can just see it now... "yes mate, your wankle engine end plate is suspected to have failed" or isnt it easier to say head gasket...
To be fair tho its an easy mistake to make and even more so if coolant had traces of other substance in or had pressureised somehow.
cambelt... well.....
steve knows what im talking about, hes FAR from stupid just being pedantic to me that all
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i was refering to the actual symtoms of the engines failure and ASSUMING theres some so of seal to join that loosing compression/mixing fluids
just as habbit would say "headgasket"
its a little like saying " middle box" on a 1.1 saxo or a 1.2 8v punto,, its not got box in the middle but most people understand what is ment
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im not being pedantic ginge, but you are banging on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
to have a HEAD gasket you need a HEAD, you know that thing with valves etc etc in, the thing a rotary has none of.
to have a CAM belt you need CAMS, you know them things that spin around n open and shut valves and shit, again, something it has none of.
its not as if it would have any gakets in the position in the bay where a head would be, as it hasnt.
its wrong, the end, not even close to being right. its not because of force of habit, they couldve put whatever they liked, not needed that much detail, but they just didnt know.
pmsl at the obscure saxo and punto comment, you can tell you work on a parts counter
to have a HEAD gasket you need a HEAD, you know that thing with valves etc etc in, the thing a rotary has none of.
to have a CAM belt you need CAMS, you know them things that spin around n open and shut valves and shit, again, something it has none of.
its not as if it would have any gakets in the position in the bay where a head would be, as it hasnt.
its wrong, the end, not even close to being right. its not because of force of habit, they couldve put whatever they liked, not needed that much detail, but they just didnt know.
pmsl at the obscure saxo and punto comment, you can tell you work on a parts counter
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steve the comment was based on hearing what people say, being a specialist in a few cars is great but try and cover ALL the range of cars,,,know EVERYTHING about all of them and you would understand what people mean
as for working on a parts counter,,,,, I WORK IN A FUCKING OFFICE FFS, i work at my head office, aint seen a customer face to face unless im asked to come down and help
the job IS essentially the same but with a twist of my end goal and targets
nothing wrong with working on a parts desk,,,,,, apart from the customers
as for working on a parts counter,,,,, I WORK IN A FUCKING OFFICE FFS, i work at my head office, aint seen a customer face to face unless im asked to come down and help
the job IS essentially the same but with a twist of my end goal and targets
nothing wrong with working on a parts desk,,,,,, apart from the customers
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im not being pedantic ginge, but you are banging on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
to have a HEAD gasket you need a HEAD, you know that thing with valves etc etc in, the thing a rotary has none of.
to have a CAM belt you need CAMS, you know them things that spin around n open and shut valves and shit, again, something it has none of.
its not as if it would have any gakets in the position in the bay where a head would be, as it hasnt.
its wrong, the end, not even close to being right. its not because of force of habit, they couldve put whatever they liked, not needed that much detail, but they just didnt know.
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to have a HEAD gasket you need a HEAD, you know that thing with valves etc etc in, the thing a rotary has none of.
to have a CAM belt you need CAMS, you know them things that spin around n open and shut valves and shit, again, something it has none of.
its not as if it would have any gakets in the position in the bay where a head would be, as it hasnt.
its wrong, the end, not even close to being right. its not because of force of habit, they couldve put whatever they liked, not needed that much detail, but they just didnt know.
pmsl at the obscure saxo and punto comment, you can tell you work on a parts counter
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To be perfectly blunt, the RAC/AA etc are not mechanics that fix performance or obscure cars all day every day so they simply know the basics about alot of cars but not all and should not be expected to know everything about all cars as the majority of the time they are dealing with someone who needs a tyre changing or towing a car to a garage not indepth work by any means....
And as for slating parts counter people, where would al lthe garages be if they were not suplied with parts from people who work at parts counters? granted a few who work at parts counters woundn't know an oil filter from a spark plug if it hit them in the face with a big lable on it saying what it was but alot of people who do work for parts suppliers are car nuts or ex mechanics who are very knowledgeable about cars!
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jim i KNOW how fucking engines work,,,, i deal with fuck car parts every day and its MY fucking job to keep a eye on stuff for warranty issues,,, i said i can SORT of understand where hes comming from with the comment,,,,
christ if you lot heard the calls i got at work FROM GARAGES CHARGING SOMEONE MONEY you would cry,,,,, and i aint kidding
christ if you lot heard the calls i got at work FROM GARAGES CHARGING SOMEONE MONEY you would cry,,,,, and i aint kidding
still, funny when you have a propper conversation with them about internal combustion or say, newtons 3rd law of motion they look at you as if your the stupid one!!!!!!!
the internet sucks sometimes dont it?
i know what you mean about tits with garages, unless you plug the cunt in and fix it then its broken and off to the dealers!
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well the guys who work our desk are fine, they AINT partsmen though but warehouse bods as i work as a concept distribution company,,, a bit like QH, blueprint ect
people call our CALL CENTRE up or Email us part numbers and the pickers pick it, drivers deliver it,,,, theres a issue with anything when they get it I get a call,,,, i get it collected and i get me gloves on and pretend to know what im doing,,, if im tired and dont wanna get back to my desk ill wipe oil in my cheek and carry a set of verniers, digi camera and clipboard pretending theres a design issue
JUST like a partsman does,,,, no wait that aint what happens in a parts department
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takes the piss sometimes when people think your a complete nugget, i been building cars and rolling round in mucky motors since i was 10yr old, im sure people think im a tit just cos im about 5ft 4!!!
still, funny when you have a propper conversation with them about internal combustion or say, newtons 3dr law of motion they look at you as if your the stupid one!!!!!!!
the internet sucks sometimes dont it?
i know what you mean about tits with garages, unless you plug the cunt in and fix it then its broken and off to the dealers!
still, funny when you have a propper conversation with them about internal combustion or say, newtons 3dr law of motion they look at you as if your the stupid one!!!!!!!
the internet sucks sometimes dont it?
i know what you mean about tits with garages, unless you plug the cunt in and fix it then its broken and off to the dealers!
newtons 3rd law is about as irelevent to a partsman as my posts are on passionford
i was talking about REAL garages calling up asking stupid things like " these transit brake discs dont fit" when they dont realise they have to take the hub off to get it to fit or sump plug for a smart car
ignorant garages are worse than partsmen too,,, ive had a row with garages over shite when they just cant be arsed to look,,, garages that cant tell what size wheels are on it,, ask them a size of disc to confirm when they cant use a fucking tape measure
dealing with the aftermarket is a NIGHTMARE compared to a main dealer, cause the parts DONT always fit,,,, if they DONT do the part they dont mention they dont,,, so ypou end up supplying a part that dont fit cause they dont make the alternative
i could go on for days about the shite you deal with...... id LOVE to go back to my job at fords,,,, 50 to 70 calls per day, fitment issues all i do is send a email and wait for a reply,,, NO fitment issues,,,,, just need a reg and point the mouse at the part of a car and it tells you a part number
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i delt with wanker punters all day long for 6yrs so i know what its like, they know more than you and that the part wouldnt fit when they took it away, once they sussed it and found how hard it was or that i said it wouldnt be that and they took it anyway and wanted refunds etc.
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some people just cannot be helped and you get it right in the neck cos your on the phone and know fuck all..... am i right?
albeit i ran a ford breakers yard but im sure you know what i mean
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some people just cannot be helped and you get it right in the neck cos your on the phone and know fuck all..... am i right?
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yes, but theres other that ARE sweet that keep you going
i once spent AGES trying to find a soultion for some brake pads, took me fucking AGES to sort but i done it,,,, then the bloke goes " tbh mate i cant be arsed, was just the customer was there so had to make it look like i wanted to sort it "
though ive got a good number of customers who deal with me directly as they like a laugh on the phone
i once spent AGES trying to find a soultion for some brake pads, took me fucking AGES to sort but i done it,,,, then the bloke goes " tbh mate i cant be arsed, was just the customer was there so had to make it look like i wanted to sort it "
though ive got a good number of customers who deal with me directly as they like a laugh on the phone
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