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Old 13-08-2008, 09:40 AM
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Default RAC are clearly NOT Rotary engine experts...

Jus saw these posted up on another forum...




Nice work lads, good diagnosis
Old 13-08-2008, 09:41 AM
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Old 13-08-2008, 09:43 AM
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pmsl at the cambelt, headgasket i SORT of understand what he means,,,, cambet,,,, nope dont see how that can happen
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that is actually quite funny!
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Next thing they will say that the owner has put 2 stroke oil in by mistake - lol

Wankel is a very apt name for the rotary engine
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Old 13-08-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
headgasket i SORT of understand what he means
What?
Old 13-08-2008, 09:46 AM
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ginge,

http://www.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm

Old 13-08-2008, 09:48 AM
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Haha good ones. Did you explain what kind of engine you got, or did you just give them the giggles and drove away ?
Old 13-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
What?
loosing compression, not knowing why its doing that he would assume its got a gasket being the cause for it,,,,, cant see inside a engine to see if the tips are fucked

cambelt is a worry though,,, as the car dont have ANY cams OR cambelt

if you ever spoke to garages every day you would soon learn just how little some know and get to understand WHAT they mean when they ask for something totally different

but then again that IS what i do for a living and deal with 200 calls a day from garages so maybe thats why i think different
Old 13-08-2008, 09:54 AM
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s/pose he is kinda right, when he inspected it he couldnt see a cam belt or head gasket, or a head come to think of it
Old 13-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
jim i KNOW how fucking engines work,,,, i deal with fuck car parts every day and its MY fucking job to keep a eye on stuff for warranty issues,,, i said i can SORT of understand where hes comming from with the comment,,,,

christ if you lot heard the calls i got at work FROM GARAGES CHARGING SOMEONE MONEY you would cry,,,,, and i aint kidding
Old 13-08-2008, 09:56 AM
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PMSL.
You cant blame them though.

I've had folk tell me about cambelts on chain-driven engines before now. You cant expect them to know everything.

Though I am susrprised he clearly didnt even look at the engine in question.
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dont you work in a parts department ginge? you talk like your in some fancy important analytical position?

Originally Posted by Ginge !
cambelt is a worry though,,, as the car dont have ANY cams OR cambelt
hasnt got a head OR a head gasket either (or any similar gaskets), so I fail to see how thats any more correct than a fucking cambelt ginge

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Old 13-08-2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
how little some know and get to understand WHAT they mean when they ask for something totally different

know EXACTLY what you mean mate.... 6th sense
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rotary engine is 2 rotors together in rx7's, thats where the confusion has come from im sure of it

remember that mechanics and ment to know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING,,, its not as easy as we make it sound considering the amount of rotarry engines on cars

hell look at how much people used to pay for work on impreza's with garages saying that flat 4's are a different type of engine and very very hard to work on,, IGNORING ITS JUST A BEETLE ENGINE

ive had the AA just start me when i pointed out the enticer wire on the alt was split,,, he didnt even know what it done and sent me on my way,,,,, where i broke down 3 miles later

thats the most SIMPLE thing on a car engine,,,, car charging system 1.1 tells your about it
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These car DO have belts, only thing is they don't drive any cams or anything
Old 13-08-2008, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
dont you work in a parts department ginge? you talk like your in some fancy important analytical position?



hasnt got a head OR a head gasket either (or any similar gaskets), so I fail to see how thats any more correct than a fucking cambelt ginge
actuallu steve i worked for a distrubution company that MADE alot of parts aswell as exhausts and I was the technical supervisor who had to deal with fitment issues due to its being a distribution company and NOT a parts department,, i supplied garages/motorfactors/kwick fit/part co ect ect ect parts

FAR from a important job,,,, but i also delt with product management with issues and sourcing ideas aswell and finding issues with companys NOT listing options on cars

but then again i guess you aint gonna know what i do for a living, this is the THIRD time ive told you though
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
rotary engine is 2 rotors together in rx7's, thats where the confusion has come from im sure of it
whats that got to do with ANYTHING?

Originally Posted by Ginge !
hell look at how much people used to pay for work on impreza's with garages saying that flat 4's are very very hard to work on,, IGNORING ITS JUST A BEETLE ENGINE
Have you never fucking worked on one?

They are a CUNT to work on when still in the enginebay, not because of the engine, because of where it all sits.

So they are RIGHT, and I have worked on enough to know...
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Originally Posted by RobCarden
know EXACTLY what you mean mate.... 6th sense
its even worse when one of your lot phone up,,,, the fax system works better apart from it takes 3 hours for your headoffice to send the fucking faxes pmsl

btw i never deal with the fax orders,,, the fax machine was on my desk so i got the calls about em chasing the orders
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
its even worse when one of your lot phone up,,,, the fax system works better apart from it takes 3 hours for your headoffice to send the fucking faxes pmsl

btw i never deal with the fax orders,,, the fax machine was on my desk so i got the calls about em chasing the orders

ive just cleaned my car
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Originally Posted by Stavros
whats that got to do with ANYTHING?



Have you never fucking worked on one?

They are a CUNT to work on when still in the enginebay, not because of the engine, because of where it all sits.

So they are RIGHT, and I have worked on enough to know...

funny enough steve the only work ive done on mine is a rad which is PISS easy ( half out in my parking space at work) and service,,,,, ok plugs feel iffy but thats cause of where they are

you KNOW what im talking about,,,, you just wanna argue about it

steve working with garages you have to understand what people mean,,, example a rack end is EITHER the tie road OR the steering rack end.... the nearside can be either with some garages and same goes for right hand side or left hand side

you have to learn to get what they mean over the phone,,, in another language with a bird whos been left to deal with a call about parts she aint got a clue what they look like

not to mention the argoant young apprentice who thinks he knows everything about cars cause hes got a snap on tool box and is now allowed to do a cambelt on hes own this week
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wtf
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steve im pointing out JUST what you see working in the game, and get to understand what they mean

you dont realise JUST how many shite garages are out there till you work at the end of the phone with them
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im %100 lost where your going or on about here ginge where did this outburst come from


keep on topic lads, someone email it to the AA
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the point im getting at is WHY someone can make the mistake, SUSPECTED head gasket on a car,,,,, considering how many cars he sees and when he prob done hes training,,,, with the limited info hes got on a laptop hes gonna summerise what he THINKS has caused it

but can see what might be the issue

that was the point, dealing with cars every day you forget just what every part is,,,,,, even if you know the answer you forget
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You know whats really annoying...

When you walk in Partco and ask for "the thingy" or "you know, the round big that does this" and those incompent gits look at you like some kind of retard.

Whats with that??
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Originally Posted by Stavros
whats that got to do with ANYTHING?



Have you never fucking worked on one?

They are a CUNT to work on when still in the enginebay, not because of the engine, because of where it all sits.

So they are RIGHT, and I have worked on enough to know...

I dont find them hard to work on, are lass's MG TF is harder to work on than an Impreza, Takes 20 mins just to get to the engine on the bloody thing.
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I need a 710 cap.
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LOL @ Gasket/cambelt


Ginge, You've posted 9 times and I still can't make sense of it
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
loosing compression, not knowing why its doing that he would assume its got a gasket being the cause for it,,,,, cant see inside a engine to see if the tips are fucked

cambelt is a worry though,,, as the car dont have ANY cams OR cambelt

if you ever spoke to garages every day you would soon learn just how little some know and get to understand WHAT they mean when they ask for something totally different

but then again that IS what i do for a living and deal with 200 calls a day from garages so maybe thats why i think different
Those engines have VERY little compression when there cold and just cranking over, you sometimes have to start them with oil in the bores to raise the comp if they've been flooded.
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Impreza's.... I've had some fun with them when they throw a piston and you have to get the block apart on a 60,70 thousand mile car!!
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Originally Posted by lead_foot
I need a 710 cap.


as to what ginge is on about:

ford garage calls up to ask him a question abotu fords
nissan garage calls him up to ask about nissans
audi call him up to ask about audi parts
etc, etc
so he knows lots about lots
the aa fella has probably not been taught about the wankel engine and is just guessing as to what the problems could be
we can all see the funny side, but who else got asked to top up a beetle engine with antifreeze when they were doing their training
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Ginge!! STFU!!
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Ginge, You've posted 9 times and I still can't make sense of it
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
the nearside can be either with some garages
Yes, if you deal with german garages as well

fucking hell ginge, every time I think you have reached the utter limit of talking bollocks, you prove me wrong!


Originally Posted by Ginge !
not to mention the argoant young apprentice who thinks he knows everything about cars cause hes got a snap on tool box and is now allowed to do a cambelt on hes own this week
I know some wanker with a mickey mouse job in a parts department who comes across like that
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LOL
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RAC = Rent A Clown, utterly useless, I have found the AA to be far better generally.

Sorry Ginge, I have to agree that the early Scoobs were a pain in the arse to work on, no access to anything, hence big bills even for simple stuff like plug changes, the heads sat right against the chassis either side of the engine bay.
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Plugs, turbos, etc are all do-able DIY on a scooby without anything really rediculous needing doing, BUT they are a skin scraping pain in the arse, certainly more than a straight 4, due to engine position.
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Why do they persist with using a flat engine design?

The beetle engines were shite - whatever possessed others to carry on with the idea?

Am I totally missing something here?


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