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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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That scooby clinic car must be mentally quick to beat Kev Atkins by FOUR seconds!
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Scoobys fucking kicking some ass in BOTH classes there!
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Think they had horrendous weather in the end though, in the dry it was much closer.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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... and Steve Guglielmi so far off the pace too?
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Chip,
Look what Kev did in the qualifying though !

Obviosuly the weather literally put the dampeners on the high powered cars....
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
That scooby clinic car must be mentally quick to beat Kev Atkins by FOUR seconds!

was thinking that!


Still waiting to see the APT Evo after its 'off'
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
... and Steve Guglielmi so far off the pace too?
It was snowing/wet so he couldn't get the power down The Autosportif & Roger Clark motorsport imprezas were both in a different league in those conditions.

Kev Atkins also seemed to be struggling to get the power down.
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Mike, where are the qualifying results, thats all ive seen so far?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
was thinking that!


Still waiting to see the APT Evo after its 'off'

Was it a bad one Rads
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Was it a bad one Rads
See christians thread about it mate.
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Was it a bad one Rads
https://passionford.com/forum/showth...86#post3215486
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
was thinking that!


Still waiting to see the APT Evo after its 'off'
Didn't know it had an off!? Was it a biggie?

Also, What did Kev do in qually Mike?

How come the Norris Evo is in 4th? The top 3 cars must be INSANE!!
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Didn't know it had an off!? Was it a biggie?

Also, What did Kev do in qually Mike?

How come the Norris Evo is in 4th? The top 3 cars must be INSANE!!
You need to remember that whilst the cars in the Pro class are all fairly awesome, many are driven by professional race-drivers. Neither Gary nor Simon Norris (as far as I am aware) fit this bill.

I was looking at Roger Clarke's website regarding the build of their Scooby. That is SERIOUSLY awesome. Heard rumours of how much it cost to build too.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, where are the qualifying results, thats all ive seen so far?
Do a search for Redkop, she posted a link yesterday to every single aspect of the event including sector times, qualifying, speed trap times and every aspect you could imagine - made very interesting reading .
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
You need to remember that whilst the cars in the Pro class are all fairly awesome, many are driven by professional race-drivers. Neither Gary nor Simon Norris (as far as I am aware) fit this bill.

I was looking at Roger Clarke's website regarding the build of their Scooby. That is SERIOUSLY awesome. Heard rumours of how much it cost to build too.
I see, fair enough! Just posted on the other thread, gutted about the Evo mate!
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The finals results tell you fuck all as it was raining and snowing by then. If you took the lap times in the finals by face value a lot of people here would prob be going "oh i can lap donno faster"

Check out qualifying times, totally different story, a mentally fast different story in Pro

http://www.tsl-timing.com/attack/2008/81470.pdf

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Originally Posted by Stavros
The finals results tell you fuck all as it was raining and snowing by then. If you took the lap times in the finals by face value a lot of people here would prob be going "oh i can lap donno faster"

Check out qualifying times, totally different story, a mentally fast different story in Pro

http://www.tsl-timing.com/attack/2008/81470.pdf
Kev ran a 1:19.8!!!
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
You need to remember that whilst the cars in the Pro class are all fairly awesome, many are driven by professional race-drivers. Neither Gary nor Simon Norris (as far as I am aware) fit this bill.

I was looking at Roger Clarke's website regarding the build of their Scooby. That is SERIOUSLY awesome. Heard rumours of how much it cost to build too.

Have you got a link to his site please mate
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olly clarks subaru hit over 150mph on dono....... nice
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Have you got a link to his site please mate
http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.u...opper.asp?id=0

perfect name for the car aswell
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Originally Posted by Daviet

Ahh, that one! I had in my mind the light blue scooby for some reason....


Looks lovely though
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1:19 for kev in classification, that sounds more like it, definately just conditions then dictating the final times!
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
1:19 for kev in classification, that sounds more like it, definately just conditions then dictating the final times!
That's the time I saw and posted above! Amazing!!
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Originally Posted by Dan
That's the time I saw and posted above! Amazing!!
Whats amazing is the times the Autosportif/Tein Impreza did. 1min 12.

Kev shouldve done Pro this year IMO, he won Club last year, should be time to move up a level as even last year he was doing Pro class times.

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Kev only had 2nd and 5th gear Mark Shead says on the MLR which makes his times pretty amazing i think!!!!! Other problems too like split hose on boost controller!!!
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Whats amazing is the times the Autosportif/Tein Impreza did. 1min 12.

Kev shouldve done Pro this year IMO, he won Club last year, should be time to move up a level as even last year he was doing Pro class times.
Totally agree. Car and driver are very very fast and its not a club class car really is it!

Awesome times. Well done Kev.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Whats amazing is the times the Autosportif/Tein Impreza did. 1min 12.
Especially when you look at the traps times and see that this was all down to corner speed / driver ability .

Any pictures of this car?
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Whats amazing is the times the Autosportif/Tein Impreza did. 1min 12.

Kev shouldve done Pro this year IMO, he won Club last year, should be time to move up a level as even last year he was doing Pro class times.
Well, from what little I know about Kev and his car, its a personal funded, owner driven, fully glass enclosured private entry, I dont see that he is out of place in club class at all, and if he went Pro class, he would not stand a chance against company demo cars with massive budgets and paid drivers.

So if I was him, id be happy where I am TBH
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Totally agree. Car and driver are very very fast and its not a club class car really is it!

Awesome times. Well done Kev.
In what way isnt it clubclass?

(genuine question, I dont know all the rules, I just see a car that hasnt even got perspex windows yet etc and it seems very much like a club car to me, a GREAT club car, but NOT a pro car)
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Especially when you look at the traps times and see that this was all down to corner speed / driver ability .

Any pictures of this car?

this one???


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You cant compare a TOP Pro class car to the rest of Pro, just because Kev has glass and pays his own way means bugger all, so do plenty of Pro.

Not as if having glass or not changes costs anyhow, just makes summat seem a bit more racey.

There needs to be firmer rules of whats club n whats not, as some pro cars look more club, and the other way round.

IMO if youve won Club you should be automatically put in Pro.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
this one???


I don't know, I've never seen or heard of the car before, so thats why I wanted to see pictures .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I don't know, I've never seen or heard of the car before, so thats why I wanted to see pictures .

I put 'this one' for those that know .
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Originally Posted by Stavros
You cant compare a TOP Pro class car to the rest of Pro, just because Kev has glass and pays his own way means bugger all, so do plenty of Pro.

Not as if having glass or not changes costs anyhow, just makes summat seem a bit more racey.

There needs to be firmer rules of whats club n whats not, as some pro cars look more club, and the other way round.

IMO if youve won Club you should be automatically put in Pro.

Im not sure thats fair TBH, to be at the front of the pro class you are looking at a 200-300K car or so I guess?

To be at the front of club class, its probably possible for about 50-75K


Thats a MASSIVE gulf when the series almost certainly offer the opportunity to provide you with 200K of sponsorship.

I dont see why a car that has been built to win in one class should be put in another class where it stands NO chance of winning, up against cars built to a different set of criteria and costs etc

To me thats like pushing someone from F3000 into F1, irrelevant of if they can afford it or not, obviously the opportunity should be given for the club class winner to go into Pro if they want to do so, but I dont think they should be FORCED into Pro.
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Roger Clark car stood at approx 100k last year starting from a totally bare shell, and they were by far the most mega overall spec one.

Zen won it last year and deffo spent far less.

Either way, they should change the rules. Kev would be about 10th in Pro going by his current times, not exactly shit is it.

To me its like a footy team staying in the crappy division they in just because they know they will win, rather than getting promoted and having a real fight for once.

Deffo agree with the F3000 vs F1 thing tho, esp in the respect that nobody really gives a toss about F3000.

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Originally Posted by Stavros
Roger Clark car stood at approx 100k last year starting from a totally bare shell, and they were by far the most mega overall spec one.

Zen won it last year and deffo spent far less.

Either way, they should change the rules.

To me its like a footy team staying in the crappy division they in just because they know they will win, rather than getting promoted and having a real fight for once.

Deffo agree with the F3000 vs F1 thing tho, esp in the respect that nobody really gives a toss about F3000.

Football teams stand to make huge profits as a result in a change in division. Kev wouldnt, it would just put it beyond what he can afford I suspect.


The PRO class, as far as im aware is so called because its for "Professionals" in the industry, which Kev isnt, not even slightly, he's just a plumber with a fast car that he likes to do trackdays in AFAIK, so he isnt a professional tuner, so he shouldnt be forced to go in the professional tuners class just cause he is a bastard good ameteur.


I disagree on the "no one cares" bit too, I know more people who are interested in the Am class TBH, including myself, as thats what we aspire to maybe do ourselves one day, the Pro class is beyond any budget I will ever have.

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That subaru wing looks like chavvy shit that wouldnt work, obviously it DOES though!
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I can't find no pictures of the rear end, Wanted to , to show the rear diffuser.


still looking.....
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