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15-02-2008, 07:00 AM
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not being a goldmember i can't view the original post, but from what i can surmise (and please corect me if i am wrong here) is the following
joe bloggs went to pe (after the new owners had taken over which has been well publicised) and had some work done
then he went to totd and complained
then, or so we are lead to believe, he was able to register an account with the totd computer, post a message here and get his car fixed
and then someone found out and so chris has issued an apology
first things first, was joe bloggs registered here before?
if so, why not use that account to post up his feelings?
why didn't joe bloggs go back to pe and discus matters with them and, if he had no luck, post here about what's happened and then get other people to explain to him what he should have expected to have happened
i also find it very difficult to believe that someone has wandered into a business and been able to use their computers without asking
i've been going to a turning company for at least the past 5 years and have only ever sat in front of a computer there after being asked to by the proprietor, and if the secretary has aked me i have made sure that it is with the owners consent and that everything is all above board
the only assumptions that can been drawn from this scenario are that joe has walked in and there has been no one there other than chris so he has helped himself to log on etc or that he has asked to use the computer for some other reasons and pulled these shady shenanigans that way
i would not wish to believe that this was a malicouis act by chris to allow someone to post this (although that being said, the above scenario could also have been played out wihtout chris' knowledge but allowed by another member of staff, but again, i'm not wishing to point fingers at anyone as no one has actually woned up to this matter)
one other thing does concern me though, how do you register to be a user of passionford? don't you need to have an email adress to send the authorisation stuff to and confermation details? i'm fairly confident that anyone with the requiste IT skills would be able to figure this out fairly easily, we seem to have already established that the computer used was from the officies of totd so all we would need to do is find out who the person was and if they were already registered here and then, hey presto, we might have an answer to our deliemas of industrial espionage or whatever you want to call it
joe bloggs went to pe (after the new owners had taken over which has been well publicised) and had some work done
then he went to totd and complained
then, or so we are lead to believe, he was able to register an account with the totd computer, post a message here and get his car fixed
and then someone found out and so chris has issued an apology
first things first, was joe bloggs registered here before?
if so, why not use that account to post up his feelings?
why didn't joe bloggs go back to pe and discus matters with them and, if he had no luck, post here about what's happened and then get other people to explain to him what he should have expected to have happened
i also find it very difficult to believe that someone has wandered into a business and been able to use their computers without asking
i've been going to a turning company for at least the past 5 years and have only ever sat in front of a computer there after being asked to by the proprietor, and if the secretary has aked me i have made sure that it is with the owners consent and that everything is all above board
the only assumptions that can been drawn from this scenario are that joe has walked in and there has been no one there other than chris so he has helped himself to log on etc or that he has asked to use the computer for some other reasons and pulled these shady shenanigans that way
i would not wish to believe that this was a malicouis act by chris to allow someone to post this (although that being said, the above scenario could also have been played out wihtout chris' knowledge but allowed by another member of staff, but again, i'm not wishing to point fingers at anyone as no one has actually woned up to this matter)
one other thing does concern me though, how do you register to be a user of passionford? don't you need to have an email adress to send the authorisation stuff to and confermation details? i'm fairly confident that anyone with the requiste IT skills would be able to figure this out fairly easily, we seem to have already established that the computer used was from the officies of totd so all we would need to do is find out who the person was and if they were already registered here and then, hey presto, we might have an answer to our deliemas of industrial espionage or whatever you want to call it
15-02-2008, 07:22 AM
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so its gone from one bloke slating a company to two companies now 
and very possibly ruining both of their reputations and some future business 
and as matt and ian have just started thats a big knock.
come on fella's for ll involved lets forget it before it gets too out of hand eh?
and very possibly ruining both of their reputations and some future business and as matt and ian have just started thats a big knock.come on fella's for ll involved lets forget it before it gets too out of hand eh?
15-02-2008, 07:39 AM
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Clearly people are sh*t sturing this because I have never heard Chris once slag off Matt or Ian or PE, after knowing him for many many years I know he is not like that.
Come to think of it anyone that has ever really known Chris will know that isn't like that.
Clearly this "garry" should have gone back to PE and complained to Matt if he wasn't happy, not drag another companies name in the crap.
Come to think of it anyone that has ever really known Chris will know that isn't like that.
Clearly this "garry" should have gone back to PE and complained to Matt if he wasn't happy, not drag another companies name in the crap.
15-02-2008, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PKA
Clearly people are sh*t stuiring this because I have never heard Chris once slag off Matt or Ian or PE, after knowing him for many many years I know he is not like that.
Come to think of it anyone that has ever really known Chris will know that isn't like that.
Clearly this "garry" should have gone back to PE and compained to Matt if he wasn't happy, not drag another companies name in the crap.
Come to think of it anyone that has ever really known Chris will know that isn't like that.
Clearly this "garry" should have gone back to PE and compained to Matt if he wasn't happy, not drag another companies name in the crap.
15-02-2008, 07:44 AM
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all sounds so fishy still from TOTDs end still.........this gary bloke needs a slap though as if no one knew matt or ian he could have seriously damaged their business 
15-02-2008, 08:02 AM
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coming straighton here to complain would imply that he only went there with a fucked car to be told it was fucked and not be able to get it fixed and then post it here
but that would require a bit of planning at the very least and i honestly don't think chris would be foolish enough to go along with any sort of plan like that
it is a regretable stat of affairs an if they guy had wanted to make a big song and dance about it it would have been much easier to just go back and either have a sensible discussion with pe as to what the problems were and then go and find a library in which to spout off
do you need to remove the rear seats to change the fuel pump on a fiesta then?
but that would require a bit of planning at the very least and i honestly don't think chris would be foolish enough to go along with any sort of plan like that
it is a regretable stat of affairs an if they guy had wanted to make a big song and dance about it it would have been much easier to just go back and either have a sensible discussion with pe as to what the problems were and then go and find a library in which to spout off
do you need to remove the rear seats to change the fuel pump on a fiesta then?
15-02-2008, 08:09 AM
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As said the fella left PE on the agreement he runs it about for a few days and comes back friday (today) to get the car run on the dyno and the boost upped.
When he left us the car was fine, (I was present) and he was happy.
All he had to do if he had an issues was pop back and either Matt or Iain would have been happy to help.
He still has an outstanding bill of Ł200 which includes the cost of the pump.
As said the fella left PE on the agreement he runs it about for a few days and comes back friday (today) to get the car run on the dyno and the boost upped.
When he left us the car was fine, (I was present) and he was happy.
All he had to do if he had an issues was pop back and either Matt or Iain would have been happy to help.
He still has an outstanding bill of Ł200 which includes the cost of the pump.
15-02-2008, 08:22 AM
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aha, now it starts to make more sense
he is probably making the claims of shody workmanship to get out of paying the bill and has possibly suckered soeone from totd into letting him use their computer to make these claims
i had a recent disagreement with someone and, after it was all said and done, it was agreed that he gave me most of my money back, but it was a well documented position with independantly assesed vesions of events as well
but the way it seems like it's be done here is that someone has gone to tesco, had a bit of a bad time and then gone to sainsburys to complain who have then run it up the flagpole and broadcast it as fact, when what's probably happened is that he's try to screw the clubcard points and tesco have banned him
anyone reading this in it's entirety will probably come to the conculsion that it's the customers fault in the first instance but the matter has been compounded by the use of totd computer in which they have posted their complaints, therefore directly implicated totd even though they may have had nothing to do with it
ignorance is not the bliss peole make it out to be
find said poster, apply whittled bits of lumber to his genitalia several times
that's what i'd be doing if it was me
chris, as the boss and head honco of totd, has made a public apology which may be damage limitation on his part but seeing as the post has already had a lot of views and certain peole have already made it clear that they would be steering clear of that estamblshment i think the only person to balme now for all this is the person who alwed the computer to be used in the first plac
and, like a speeding fine, if you don't fess up as to who was driving, the owner has to take responsibility
cue the passionford witch hunt now for this guy who's done a bunk oweing Ł200
he is probably making the claims of shody workmanship to get out of paying the bill and has possibly suckered soeone from totd into letting him use their computer to make these claims
i had a recent disagreement with someone and, after it was all said and done, it was agreed that he gave me most of my money back, but it was a well documented position with independantly assesed vesions of events as well
but the way it seems like it's be done here is that someone has gone to tesco, had a bit of a bad time and then gone to sainsburys to complain who have then run it up the flagpole and broadcast it as fact, when what's probably happened is that he's try to screw the clubcard points and tesco have banned him
anyone reading this in it's entirety will probably come to the conculsion that it's the customers fault in the first instance but the matter has been compounded by the use of totd computer in which they have posted their complaints, therefore directly implicated totd even though they may have had nothing to do with it
ignorance is not the bliss peole make it out to be
find said poster, apply whittled bits of lumber to his genitalia several times
that's what i'd be doing if it was me
chris, as the boss and head honco of totd, has made a public apology which may be damage limitation on his part but seeing as the post has already had a lot of views and certain peole have already made it clear that they would be steering clear of that estamblshment i think the only person to balme now for all this is the person who alwed the computer to be used in the first plac
and, like a speeding fine, if you don't fess up as to who was driving, the owner has to take responsibility
cue the passionford witch hunt now for this guy who's done a bunk oweing Ł200
15-02-2008, 08:33 AM
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Not going to take sides here because i get on well with Chris, Iain and Matt... 
So i suggest Chris takes a tray of bacon butties over the road with his tail between his legs, everyone has a group hug and gets back to work
So i suggest Chris takes a tray of bacon butties over the road with his tail between his legs, everyone has a group hug and gets back to work
15-02-2008, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bookwyse
FFS guys,
A mistake was made but to carry on about it will do NOONE any good at all.
This thread should be locked before it gets out of hand.
A mistake was made but to carry on about it will do NOONE any good at all.
This thread should be locked before it gets out of hand.
Locked....
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