Phil

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Well.. trackpug anyway! not the Miami blue that I wanted but picked it up for £500 , so can't complain! Pretty much std 1.9 GTi.. 5 new tyres on decent 1.9 alloys are worth nearly half that so can't really go wrong

Let the cheap, fun track action begin!!!







P.S. I need a bigger garage

TIFF

Nice one Phil

Phil

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It's going to kick Martins (dumped) Integras arse

Doesn't really seem much faster than my last 1.6 GTi, originally I put that down the the longer ratio box of the 1.9 but then it does 3k at 70mph

Time for a serious weight loss plan Just like Vanessa Feltz

Lambchop

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phillipa - your going down LOL

.... hmmm couple of beers and I'll lay down the proper gauntlet

definately looks like teg food

Nice one


Martin

Phil

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Bring it on

I couldn't find one armco coloured one unfortunately

Lambchop

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aye aye phil

you've set me thinkin bout gettin 1 of these seein as they so cheap.did you have to look hard for this 1 or did it fall at your feet?find any more that might interest me?

Less.

I got one

Work will commence on mine soon

Phil

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Chop, have a look on eBay and the Autotrader.. thats about all the searching I did!!!

Less what are the plans for yours??

Mine is going to be stripped out, caged, polybushed, uprated suspension and will change the brake pads+fluids.. Should be ok then I think! Maybe some cut slicks as well..

Less.

Yep stripped out some cheap bucket seats,dont care if I kill it only cost me £20

Phil

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My last one cost £150.. sold it for £200 6 months later

dumped

If i can find the engine cheap - and have the contacts I'm thinking a BMW compact with m3 engine might be my weapon of choice Tegs seem way over priced for what you get.

stew205

Good choice of track car

Looks like mine about 8months a go, before the spending began

Get an Mi in there!!!


Just got it back on Saturday, after the cage was fitted

Mattie_M

*Chop*

Help me find 1 then phil?? Just had an insurance quote which is so really wanna get 1!

Chop

Newts

Seans beemer and Martins Metro could be in trouble then?
I hope your not losing focus on the escort, I want to see that out on the track!

Newts

Phil

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Chop, you are bloody miles away! Just look around for one, the newer the better (get a 90- one and they have better back lights and front bumper) and just check the usuals!! I'll have a proper chat with you about it at some point if you want with what to check..

Newts.. I don't have a chance against Martin's Metro (neither do many Cossie's in its new guise) or Seans Beemer for that matter

Can still have almost as much fun though!

stew205

Chop

My brother may be selling his sorrento green Mi16.

Actually if you are Scotland that probably to far to bother with.


Have a look on http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/ Loads for sale and all the info on 205gti's you will ever need

There was a nice Mi miami blue one up you way for sale not to long ago.

Stew

Phil

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stew, good link

What suspension is best for track? I'm thinking tarmac spec bilsteins (what poundage springs?) roller top mounts and rose jointed bottom arms?? Then just billy dampers and lowered rear torsion bar for the back end???

Sound about right?

stew205

Phil

I've got Tarmac Bilsteins up front (will check the spring rate), as you would expect they are hard but it handles well on them.

Got some spax on the back but am fitting shorted adjustable AVO's to take account of the fact my beam is lowered one spline.

My beam is from a 309GTI which as widder track Good mod if you are tracking it.

For that matter you can 309 front wishbones and shafts to give you some camber, maybe a cheaper option than the adjustable arms?

Maybe look at udrating your rear beam mounts as these will be knackered if its still running originals. Pug sport do some solid mounts. Engine mounts could also do with up graded. Not a plug but if you want a very stiff lower engine mount let me know as I sell them


Spent all last winter and this summer sorting mine, started with a bare shell. New parts nearly everywhere. I've got an Mi16 on throttle bodies, it goes well even after weeks of probs with it


Brake upgrades, I've got Alcon 4pots which a brillant. Bought them second hand so weren't as dear as new. If you want I can give you the contact details of somebody thats sells 206GTI 180 brakes. They are a straight onto 1.9 hubs, my brother has some fitted, haven't faded on him even after serious track use (standard pads )


You are right about the roller top mounts and adjustable bottom arms, they are a good choice. I plan to fit some over the winter.


My user name is the same on there as on here so send me a pM if you want a mount.

Phil

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Good advice mate

It's so cool having another car you can just bolt upgrades onto.. nothings ever simple on the mk1 Escort (everything requires grinding, welding or just plain doesn't fit )

Will definitely chat in the near future and i'll have a lower engine mount off you then as well.. it's on its way out anyway as the car is a bit jerky on pull off!! (not as bad as my last one though that was completely shot )

Thanks again

lancia delta 6 times WRC

I've got full challenge spec weld in cage, Tarmac billies with grp N top mounts, quaife diff and 45 dellorto's it goes really well.

Just got it log booked today hopefully out next weekend for my first rally

everything you could possibly want.
http://www.rallycar.com

I also have a build manual if you need any info

lancia delta 6 times WRC

solid mounts are £18 from the pug/citroen dealer and are OE spec on all Xantias

RichardPON

Phil,

For some inspiration, check out my brother's website:

www.jamesnathan-motorsport.co.uk

You'd be surprised just how well they can go round corners in full tarmac spec

stew205

My mounts have been adapted from Merc truck, they are solid rubber with a seperate metal stiffener. Consiedrable stiffer than the XM ones.

Good if you are running a high spec engine or don't want you mi16 down pipe hitting the bulkhead.

stew205

Plus £6 cheaper than Pug

Lambchop

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whats the deal with this one then?cost?

are the mi16's usually logged or can they be cheaply insured? lol

Phil

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mi16 is a 1.9, same as a normal 205 1.9 gti chop! I think (may be wrong on this..) but the 2.0 mi16 engine has a heavier steel block.. or less power?? Something like that.. Not something i've looked into really, going to sort the handling on mine and worry about power later - it doesn't mean a huge amount on track until you are well used to the car!

andyescos

Phil, your Mk1 is gorgeous, would you flog it?

Phil

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Everythings for sale for the right price

Lambchop

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S16 is the iron block 2.0

steve211

seen this on autotrader
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www...ch_full=SEARCH

vroooom ptssssh

Mi16 is a 2.0 16V im sure? simmilar in performance to the GTI-6 if i remember rightly, ive been out in mates Mi16 205 a few times, was pretty swift and also mates old 306 XSI with GTI-6 engine, 5 speed box, still same top end tho, 6th gear must of been an economy job
theirs a Mi-16 CTI original Dimma for sale on www.strathycruise.co.uk red, leather etc, no use for track right nuff

NUTS RuS

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I had a Gp A spec 1.9 rallycar, many many mods as you would imagine.

Roller bearing top mounts but with the extra strengthened top plates welded in, rose jointed gear linkage (good tip as the plastic bushed ones will break), Bilsteins all round (bit too hard on the back), rose jointed bottom arms, 309 beam with solid bushes (made 'em myself £3 each), solid engine mounts (homemade) etc etc.

Was a fun little car the only thing that lets them down is the electrics.

Im sure you will have fun with it Phil

stew205

Lambchop

No the standard 1.9gti is 130BHP.

The 1.9mi16 16valve engine (alloy block) found in 405mi's and BX16V's are 160BHP. Makes for a quick 205 and lots of tunning potential!

The 2.0Mi16 (found in late 405's) is cast iron a bit less powerful than the Mi16, something like 150BHP.

Then theres the late 2.016V found in the GTI 6 and otheres, still Iron but more powerful, 167BHP with Cat.