D-Sport

i may be a little out of order but........................

i recently sent my gearbox in because i was getting different wheel speeds on the dyna pack,
firstly i got a bill for 3 grand, when i questioned this i was told that they wanted to replace everything, i asked why and was it absolutely nessecary and he replied no, i asked about the wheel speed difference and he said the vc was fooked, i said to him to replace the bearings as he was in there at it but to leave everything else alone and to repair the vc

now heres my annoyance
the origonal quote to replace everything included 280 plus vat to cover the labour for the strip and rebuild, however having not replaced any layshaft or gears etc the labour cost remains at 280 plus vat

i rang and asked why the labour cost was the same and the reply i got was "i took it to pieces and put it back together so the cost is the same regardless of whether im replacing the shafts and gears or just putting back all your origonal shafts and gears

opinions?
am i being too hard expecting a lower labour charge

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D-Sport

24 views and 0 opinions?

bud-weis

i kind of agree with him to be fair, it takes the same amount of time to fit new parts, as it does to refit your original parts.

what box is it?? 3grand is a lot of dosh

vroooom ptssssh

Well he's doing the same job wether he replaces new parts or not, so its still the exact same time labour wise new parts or not.

Dan

3 grand! What fookin box is it for that?

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i'm assuming it's a 4wd car and assuming it's a MT75

in which case, you don't neccesarily need to strip the whole box down to change the VC but if there was anything else wrong with it and he didn't take the box apart and it went bang, he'd be facing a rebuild out of his own pocket, so he's taken it apart to make sure, and it's not a over the top labour charge for the job

mind you, i don't know where you went to get it sorted, but i've had boxes rebuilt for half that and with new bits in but it's mates rates etc so it's not a big deal

the £3k though, thats what you need to be asking yourself about

D-Sport

the 3 k was for him to basically take out every single bit of the internals and replace em all with new bits, something which i never asked him to do, when i got the estimate i rang and asked what the fook , when he told me that my own stuff wasnt going to calf (fall apart) over the next 12 months i told him to leave well enough alone, i only sent it in because of getting different wheel speeds on the dyna pack to which he replied that it was the viscous coupling was fooked and was causing the wheel speed difference,
so my point was 280 quid labour on top of 280 quid to do the viscous, fair enough he had a look inside perhaps and checked the gears etc but he wasnt asked to do that

dunno maybe i am being over the top

dojj

iTrader: (3)

labour is a bit harsh but still........
parts are a bit expensive unless he's done the chain as well

ballin

iTrader: (1)

he's right imo

GUZZLER

iTrader: (3)

why take the box apart if it only needed a v.c. ???
to change the v.c. you don't even have to remove the box

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i think the assumption here is that the owner has taken the box/car to the gearbox place to find out what's wrong and they have removed the box, which might also explain why the labour rate is higher than just replacement of the rear casing

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

for 3k you could of a had a proper strong gearbox, with all new gears, uprated vc aswell

foreigneRS

can't fully understand it all, but don't think he has paid £3k - that was an estimate to replace all parts that he didn't ask to be done but that the gearbox place recomended

ballin

iTrader: (1)

correct, read the post people

D-Sport

it was just the box that was delivered to the place and the question that was asked of them was why was the wheel speeds different on the dyna pack, can you investigate why and put right

i havent paid the 3 k cost nor wouldnt, when i questioned the 3 k price and told them to just fix the wheel speed problem i was in formed that it was the vc was causing the wheel speed problem,

my point to him afterwards was, " you asked for 280 quid labour to strip and rebuild the gearbox but all you have done is repair the vc, he says he crack tested all the parts inside it when i told him i didnt want to spend 3k on new layshafts, new gears etc

so in essence, 280 to strip and rebuild using new parts for labour or 280 for fixing the vc and looking inside which he wasnt asked to do,
incidently the vc cost an extra 280 to fix outside of the 280 being charged for labour in terms of replacing all the internals of the box

abdr500

iTrader: (1)

let me gess gearbox man

dojj

iTrader: (3)

so you've told him that it's got different speeds front and rear and to find out why
the firs thing anyone would do if they knew what the boxes are like would be to change the viscous, or at least test it out and then report back any findings

i don't know who you used because you haven't said, but it looks to me like there is an extra £280 in there for stuff you didn't actually ask him to do, nor did he get authority to do without asking you about pulling the box apart

in which case, yes, you are right to bee mightly pissed off and getting charged extra

does the box look like it's been apart?

D-Sport

i dont know if the box has anything done to it as im in ireland and wouldnt be released to the courier until i had paid in full, it wasnt gearbox man and i dont want to liable myself by saying who it was yet, its on its way back and i suppose time will tell
i wouldnt mind paying a bit for a guy to give it a once over but i do feel a little sore around the chocolate starfish if you get my meaning

dojj

iTrader: (3)

then mate, you look like you've been stuffed

wait until it comes back, if it's all clean and tidy and shows signs of being pulled apart then at least he's done what he's said he has done

if not, make sure you paid by credit card and let them expensive banking type lawyers loose on him

Turbosystems

iTrader: (5)

would you have felt better if instead of them having a fixed price for labour to strip and rebuild a box they had two prices 280 to strip and repair 380 to strip and repair and fit new parts.
Most gearbox companies have a similar price for the mt75 when it come to labour charges.Quaife charge 300 labour plus carriage plus vat to fit their 3k gear kit, we have a similar price for that. seems fair to me to charge that labour fee to strip check and rebuild your box.
the suggestion of 3 k to fit all new standard parts was not the correct advice on an mt75,unless of course the owner wanted all new standard parts and not a straight cut.

The standard mt75 gearbox is not any good for any more than standard bhp

D-Sport

well im back again,

we found out at the weekend when trying to fit the propshaft that the fucking twats have fitted the piece in the gearbox where the prop slides into.............................................. ...........THE WRONG WAY AROUND


WHAT A PACK OF FUCKWITS

Disabled Account

Sorry to hear that................To be fair it's a mistake that a gearbox builder will usually only make ONCE in a lifetime. That splined front prop output is designed badly as it fits perfectly either way round.

D-Sport

THE ANNOYING PART ABOUT THE COONTS IS WHEN YOU RING YOU ALWAYS GET "OH HES ON HOLIDAYS"

Disabled Account

Whereabouts are you?

As only the rear part of the transfer box has to be removed and then re-fitted/sealed, it's actually a 10 - 15 min job for someone that has dismantled an MT75 box before.

D-Sport

im in ireland but the car is in the uk with a mate of mine / tuner , its those coonts in r and d, fucking shite service, they think cos your across the pond that they dont have to return your calls

Disabled Account

Well, tell your mate/tuner to take the gearbox to Bara Motorsport (Bromsgrove, Worcs.), phone Bara first and tell him what needs doing - he may well sort it while your mate/tuner waits there: 01527 880011

D-Sport

thats very good of you , does he specialise in those boxes??

Disabled Account

Yes, he would apear to know what he's doing when working on MT75 boxes....

I dont think he works on the R & D boxes usually, BUT the transfer box is exaxtly the same anyway.