Are we alone in the universe?
11-07-2007, 10:55 AM
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Are we alone in the universe?
So, humans are the only form of "higher life" in the tiny universe?
The smaller planets (inc earth)..
Compared to the larger planets.
Nowt amazing, we all know how tiny our planet is. Especially compared to our sun.
But how big is our sun compared to the other suns in our milky way?
Not very........
But then wait, if Jupiter is only 1 pixel large, yet dwarfs our planet, surly nothing can get bigger?
Wrong...
The largest star from the above picture is the 4th smallest star in the next image......
We are nothing, we are tiny. Will the human race survive long enough to get to any of these? Will the technology ever exist? Who knows, not in our lifetimes. Makes you think though..
The smaller planets (inc earth)..
Compared to the larger planets.
Nowt amazing, we all know how tiny our planet is. Especially compared to our sun.
But how big is our sun compared to the other suns in our milky way?
Not very........
But then wait, if Jupiter is only 1 pixel large, yet dwarfs our planet, surly nothing can get bigger?
Wrong...
The largest star from the above picture is the 4th smallest star in the next image......
We are nothing, we are tiny. Will the human race survive long enough to get to any of these? Will the technology ever exist? Who knows, not in our lifetimes. Makes you think though..
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11-07-2007, 11:02 AM
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Space is amazing!! Must be other things out there....................
Just the sheer scale of it poses important philosophical questions and opens up the whole concept of alternative universes.
Who knows, somewhere, millions of light years away, there may be a planet on which Ford still do well at TOTB
11-07-2007, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Space is amazing!! Must be other things out there....................
your not wrong
its mind boggling just thinking bout how small we really are
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11-07-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: Are we alone in the universe?
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Will the technology ever exist? Who knows, not in our lifetimes.
Cool post.
11-07-2007, 11:28 AM
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Re: Are we alone in the universe?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Will the technology ever exist? Who knows, not in our lifetimes.
Cool post.
And that is if its even possible at all, which its perfectly probably it simply isnt!
11-07-2007, 11:29 AM
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yes there must be other life formes statestics say there must be.
the major problem is getting from one solar system to another or galaxy
even at the speed of light it will take 90 years to get to the next solor system
the major problem is getting from one solar system to another or galaxy
even at the speed of light it will take 90 years to get to the next solor system
11-07-2007, 11:29 AM
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Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their 
11-07-2007, 11:30 AM
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yes there must be other life formes statestics say there must be.
the major problem is getting from one solar system to another or galaxy
even at the speed of light it will take 90 years to get to the next solor system
the major problem is getting from one solar system to another or galaxy
even at the speed of light it will take 90 years to get to the next solor system
11-07-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by PT
Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their
11-07-2007, 11:33 AM
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I've no doubt there are other beings around.
Not necessarily any further advanced than us though, so not surprising we've never met.
And if someone does get clever enough to get here, they are probably clever enough to know not to interfere as they know it would screw everything right up
Not necessarily any further advanced than us though, so not surprising we've never met.
And if someone does get clever enough to get here, they are probably clever enough to know not to interfere as they know it would screw everything right up
11-07-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by PT
Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their
It may just run out into and endless distance of nothingness
11-07-2007, 11:36 AM
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Size is only proportionate to what your comparing said object with.
Anyway, THIS explains the universe.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ
Anyway, THIS explains the universe.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ
11-07-2007, 11:38 AM
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considering 1 lightyear is the distance a particle of light can travel in 1 earth year, and light travels at approximately 3*10^8 m/s (1,079,252,848.8 km/h or 670 616 629M/H )
so thats 6.7*10^8 MPH
there are 8765.81277 hours in 1 year
therefore 670,616,629 * 8 765.81277 = distance traveled = 5.9*10^12 miles... and thats only 1 lightyear... far too big to even consider thinking about...
so thats 6.7*10^8 MPH
there are 8765.81277 hours in 1 year
therefore 670,616,629 * 8 765.81277 = distance traveled = 5.9*10^12 miles... and thats only 1 lightyear... far too big to even consider thinking about...
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I saw these a while ago, and am very interested in it all (Space/galaxies etc)
On the other end of the scale we have the smallest things in the known world....
http://www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/atom/index.html
On the other end of the scale we have the smallest things in the known world....
http://www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/atom/index.html
11-07-2007, 11:40 AM
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It's stupid trying to think about it.. for me anyway, my brain starts to hurt!
There's so much out there, and yet most people know nothing about it! Imagine if there are other life forms... you can't think up what they look like.
Maybe somewhere there's an exact replica of everyone on earth, and they replicate every move we make... or the other way around
we're being controlled
There's so much out there, and yet most people know nothing about it! Imagine if there are other life forms... you can't think up what they look like.
Maybe somewhere there's an exact replica of everyone on earth, and they replicate every move we make... or the other way around
we're being controlled
11-07-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by PT
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by PT
Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their
It may just run out into and endless distance of nothingness
11-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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Size is only proportionate to what your comparing said object with.
Anyway, THIS explains the universe.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ
Anyway, THIS explains the universe.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ
11-07-2007, 11:49 AM
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11-07-2007, 11:54 AM
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Just to throw something else into the equation......
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
11-07-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Just to throw something else into the equation......
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
sorry... that is a joke...i dont believe in a god...
11-07-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Just to throw something else into the equation......
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
The lack of dinosaurs in the bible is a good start
11-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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I love stuff like this. Get's you really thinking. It just goes to show though that for everything we find out scientifically which makes us seem rally intelligent, there are other things that we will never find out which makes us appear completely insignificant
11-07-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Martyn
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Just to throw something else into the equation......
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
The lack of dinosaurs in the bible is a good start
I agree with what you're saying though
11-07-2007, 12:10 PM
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[quote="Phil DJ"]
How silly of me to forget
My dad was a carpenter, does that mean God could be my Grandad?
Originally Posted by Martyn
That's coz dinosaurs are pre-bible
I agree with what you're saying though
I agree with what you're saying though
My dad was a carpenter, does that mean God could be my Grandad?
11-07-2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Just to throw something else into the equation......
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
Given the sheer enormity of what is out there, and that the bible chats about earth as if its important and that god specifically made it for us and made us etc, does it seems like pretty conclusive proof to people that the whole concept of god is a load of old bollocks?
cause in my mind, if he was making the earth for us, what is then the point in going on to make a universe that is literally millions upon millions of times bigger than we can ever possibly go to?
After all, we know that science and religion dont mix, I reckon if the states was atheist by majority we would have even further advanced technology than we do now.
PS, I only use the US as an example seeing as they are the largest, richest country in the world, if anyone is going to advance technology its them.
11-07-2007, 12:16 PM
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I dont know enough about american politics to know to what extent the religious nuts have managed to restrict space exploration so I cant comment on that.
But to me the more we learn about ourselves, the universe etc, the more it points to the fact that the bible is absolute horseshit in all the details of such things.
I find the whole concept of God a peculiar one, I would like it to be true, but it just doesnt seem to have ANY basis that makes sense, and all religions get round this "minor issue" by just saying "you have to have faith, you dont need any evidence and you must not think about it for yourself"
But to me the more we learn about ourselves, the universe etc, the more it points to the fact that the bible is absolute horseshit in all the details of such things.
I find the whole concept of God a peculiar one, I would like it to be true, but it just doesnt seem to have ANY basis that makes sense, and all religions get round this "minor issue" by just saying "you have to have faith, you dont need any evidence and you must not think about it for yourself"
11-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: Are we alone in the universe?
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Graham S1
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Will the technology ever exist? Who knows, not in our lifetimes.
Cool post.
And that is if its even possible at all, which its perfectly probably it simply isnt!
11-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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I agree RE religion, the scary thing is there's actually quite a few very clever people who are deeply religious, how the fuck does that work !! 
I just assumed they were all daft folk who didnt have any common sense and who dont like to make their own minds up
I just assumed they were all daft folk who didnt have any common sense and who dont like to make their own minds up
11-07-2007, 01:01 PM
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Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their
apparently, the last measurement of the universe was along the lines of it being at least 10x83 light years across
now, if you consider that light travels 186,000 miles a second
then you multiply that by the amount of seconds in a year to give you the distance traveld by light in one year, putting another 83 zero's behind it tends to give you a bit of a headache
(the answer is 31,536,000 seconds, but the calculater doesn't go any further than that so the computer says 5,865,696,000,000 miles so it's a lot to start with before you put 83 zero's behind it )but i also get a copy of the new scientist posted through the letterbox every week so perhaps some of the info in there is sinking in