Are we alone in the universe?
11-07-2007, 01:12 PM
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Re: Are we alone in the universe?
Originally Posted by biglee
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Graham S1
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Will the technology ever exist? Who knows, not in our lifetimes.
Cool post.
And that is if its even possible at all, which its perfectly probably it simply isnt!
i know NASA have concepts for a "light Sail" that can and will reach the speed of light with no power at all... the problems occur when you realise you cant actually slow down easy enough plus no computer on the globe can do enough calculations to cope with the speed of the aircraft... then momentum comes into play - with many millions of particles "floating" in space, if it were to hit one (say the size of a Tin Can) then it would merely rip through the vehicle... there isnt a substance strong enough to cope with impacts of that magnitude...
11-07-2007, 01:30 PM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tfs1t-2rr...elated&search=
Seen this before and thought it perfect for this thread... makes Antares look rather small
Seen this before and thought it perfect for this thread... makes Antares look rather small
11-07-2007, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PT
Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their 
apparently, the last measurement of the universe was along the lines of it being at least 10x83 light years across
now, if you consider that light travels 186,000 miles a second
then you multiply that by the amount of seconds in a year to give you the distance traveld by light in one year, putting another 83 zero's behind it tends to give you a bit of a headache
(the answer is 31,536,000 seconds, but the calculater doesn't go any further than that so the computer says 5,865,696,000,000 miles so it's a lot to start with before you put 83 zero's behind it )but i also get a copy of the new scientist posted through the letterbox every week so perhaps some of the info in there is sinking in
11-07-2007, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by biglee
Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by PT
Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their
apparently, the last measurement of the universe was along the lines of it being at least 10x83 light years across
now, if you consider that light travels 186,000 miles a second
then you multiply that by the amount of seconds in a year to give you the distance traveld by light in one year, putting another 83 zero's behind it tends to give you a bit of a headache
(the answer is 31,536,000 seconds, but the calculater doesn't go any further than that so the computer says 5,865,696,000,000 miles so it's a lot to start with before you put 83 zero's behind it )but i also get a copy of the new scientist posted through the letterbox every week so perhaps some of the info in there is sinking in
do it now 
11-07-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PT
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by PT
Interesting stuff, space is infinate so their is def other forms of life out their
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11-07-2007, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nickymi2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tfs1t-2rr...elated&search=
Seen this before and thought it perfect for this thread... makes Antares look rather small
Seen this before and thought it perfect for this thread... makes Antares look rather small
no wonder there so far advanced
11-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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This isn't anything to do with the Chicago airport sighting last year? Apparently over a dozen people saw it.
The official line was, it was "it was a weather phenomenon".
Sure, just over Gate 17.
The official line was, it was "it was a weather phenomenon".
Sure, just over Gate 17.
11-07-2007, 04:28 PM
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BTW, you're a bit slow, this was posted on Turbosport months ago. 
Not as if I was off topic either.. or starting some new conspiracy.
11-07-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Martyn
My dad was a carpenter, does that mean God could be my Grandad?
If yes, then there is a strong possibility
11-07-2007, 04:55 PM
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Mental isnt it, it seriously does put allot of questions into your head!
Immagine our 'sun' was one of the other "hot round things"
"Aw its a lovelly day and the Antares is out...."
Immagine our 'sun' was one of the other "hot round things"
"Aw its a lovelly day and the Antares is out...."
11-07-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
i will say, here and now, that there is no fucking way we are the only things that exist in this world.
Interesting read
11-07-2007, 05:07 PM
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Hate to burst a few bubbles but dinosaur ARE mentioned in the bible,
ill show the link for you to read.
http://www.case-creation.org.uk/dating1.html
Now i know alot of you will post up sarcastic pish, but for the few that actully have a look at it. look through the whole site.
you might come across a few things that may interest you
ill show the link for you to read.
http://www.case-creation.org.uk/dating1.html
Now i know alot of you will post up sarcastic pish, but for the few that actully have a look at it. look through the whole site.
you might come across a few things that may interest you
11-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Chip
I think I can remember recently a BBC programm where it was discovered that all solar systems have a Black Hole at their centre.
Can anyone else remember a recent program?
Someone even suggested that our solar system is shrinking, eventually to 'disappear' into the black hole. It's going to take a very, very long time however.
sorry can't remember anymore about the program.
I think I can remember recently a BBC programm where it was discovered that all solar systems have a Black Hole at their centre.
Can anyone else remember a recent program?
Someone even suggested that our solar system is shrinking, eventually to 'disappear' into the black hole. It's going to take a very, very long time however.
sorry can't remember anymore about the program.
11-07-2007, 05:48 PM
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Everything ive seen says that our universe is actually still expanding, eventually to end in a cold nothingness, as its gone past the point at which gravity can pull it back together, but obviously the reality is that basically no one has a fucking clue, lol
11-07-2007, 05:49 PM
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Hate to burst a few bubbles but dinosaur ARE mentioned in the bible,
ill show the link for you to read.
http://www.case-creation.org.uk/dating1.html
Now i know alot of you will post up sarcastic pish, but for the few that actully have a look at it. look through the whole site.
you might come across a few things that may interest you
ill show the link for you to read.
http://www.case-creation.org.uk/dating1.html
Now i know alot of you will post up sarcastic pish, but for the few that actully have a look at it. look through the whole site.
you might come across a few things that may interest you
Ironically the whole case for creation seems to be centred around there not being enough evidence against it, there still isnt ANY evidence for it.
Its like Phil with his "its 600bhp cause no one can prove it isnt" engines
11-07-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Everything ive seen says that our universe is actually still expanding,
(I have no "theory" myself BTW
)
11-07-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Everything ive seen says that our universe is actually still expanding,
(I have no "theory" myself BTW
)
11-07-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by christianh3
I think there are parrallel universes and other lifeforms, especially after i've taken drugs.
likewise.....must lay off the ket
11-07-2007, 06:02 PM
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no... thats what I meant... what is the "void". Whats there before the universe expands into it? is there another universe next door getting squished etc?
I'm going to stop now, my head hurts.
I'm going to stop now, my head hurts.
11-07-2007, 06:11 PM
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no... thats what I meant... what is the "void". Whats there before the universe expands into it? is there another universe next door getting squished etc?
I'm going to stop now, my head hurts.
I'm going to stop now, my head hurts.
I think we are on a fairly good sized plot
11-07-2007, 06:13 PM
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If there is another life form out there. It as far as I know, does not have technology more advanced than ours.
If they were able to travel at the speed of light, or faster.. they would have been able to achieve a lot of other things apart from visiting us. For instance, the scanning of planets like we scan our bodies, but for life forms + communication with us. I dislike it when people say that they maybe cannot interact or communicate with us due to a massive gap in our technology or language etc. All life and non(if moving) forms send out a radio wave, surely they would have known about this technology to communicate before visiting? As for the language, Humans, if enough time is spent in the presence of a language can pick up on what it means and communicate.
That or we are such a small life-form it doesn't matter.
Yet I do not believe that we can be the only planet in the right place at the right time.. Just doesn't add up.
Anyway, I could go on forever.
All i know is that I bet whatever technology we create to get us there will be named a warp drive. (no i'm not a star trek geek)
If they were able to travel at the speed of light, or faster.. they would have been able to achieve a lot of other things apart from visiting us. For instance, the scanning of planets like we scan our bodies, but for life forms + communication with us. I dislike it when people say that they maybe cannot interact or communicate with us due to a massive gap in our technology or language etc. All life and non(if moving) forms send out a radio wave, surely they would have known about this technology to communicate before visiting? As for the language, Humans, if enough time is spent in the presence of a language can pick up on what it means and communicate.
That or we are such a small life-form it doesn't matter.
Yet I do not believe that we can be the only planet in the right place at the right time.. Just doesn't add up.
Anyway, I could go on forever.
All i know is that I bet whatever technology we create to get us there will be named a warp drive. (no i'm not a star trek geek)
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Originally Posted by kennyA
Chip
I think I can remember recently a BBC programm where it was discovered that all solar systems have a Black Hole at their centre.
Can anyone else remember a recent program?
Someone even suggested that our solar system is shrinking, eventually to 'disappear' into the black hole. It's going to take a very, very long time however.
sorry can't remember anymore about the program.
I think I can remember recently a BBC programm where it was discovered that all solar systems have a Black Hole at their centre.
Can anyone else remember a recent program?
Someone even suggested that our solar system is shrinking, eventually to 'disappear' into the black hole. It's going to take a very, very long time however.
sorry can't remember anymore about the program.
the universe has been seen to still be expanding, but is slowing down, this promotes the theory that it was created by a bang! the way they find out which way it is going is by blue and red shift... this is where the colour of a planet is altered by its movement either away, or towards...
red = towards as shorter wave length
blue = away as longer wave length
the idea is that the universe is expanding from a central point i.e. where the bang happened then over time it is slowing down due to a strong gravitaional pull until it starts to shrink again back into a small mass...
theory suggest that it will either become another star, or just turn into a black hole... the question is, where does a black hole lead?
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From what Hawkins says, it doesn't lead anywhere but is a spectacle of the end of time itself..
To be honest, for our underdeveloped brains its too much to understand at the best of times.. Let alone an under-educated person like myself.
To be honest, for our underdeveloped brains its too much to understand at the best of times.. Let alone an under-educated person like myself.
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the universe will only expand so far,then chuck norris will tell it to "turn around and go back whare it came from!!"
on a serious note i cant see a problem with god creating things as its not proven either way,its on such a vast scale that anything is possible!
i think most peaple discount the god thing due to all the nutters on the planet carying things out in his name.
as intelegent life we have to know how it started and whare it ends,that is a good thing.for me i think as you get to the end and open the door you are opening the door you came in at the start,just my own theory
if you think that for every grain of sand in the world there is a million stars with there own planets you would have to be very niave to think we were alone.
on a serious note i cant see a problem with god creating things as its not proven either way,its on such a vast scale that anything is possible!
i think most peaple discount the god thing due to all the nutters on the planet carying things out in his name.
as intelegent life we have to know how it started and whare it ends,that is a good thing.for me i think as you get to the end and open the door you are opening the door you came in at the start,just my own theory
if you think that for every grain of sand in the world there is a million stars with there own planets you would have to be very niave to think we were alone.
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
If there is another life form out there. It as far as I know, does not have technology more advanced than ours.
11-07-2007, 06:20 PM
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I hate the thought that amazing things like finding other living planets will happen beyond my lifetime 
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
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Originally Posted by nilrem
Originally Posted by Flip2k3
If there is another life form out there. It as far as I know, does not have technology more advanced than ours.
Its like anything, if I were the real Jesus Christ, I would be locked up in a mental hospital for insanity.
You cannot win and I believe that is our major set back. If things are true, we cannot explain, we will dismiss them. If things aren't true because of fact, we will dismiss them.
Oh well..
11-07-2007, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DogSmoke
I hate the thought that amazing things like finding other living planets will happen beyond my lifetime
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
11-07-2007, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Originally Posted by nilrem
Originally Posted by Flip2k3
If there is another life form out there. It as far as I know, does not have technology more advanced than ours.
Its like anything, if I were the real Jesus Christ, I would be locked up in a mental hospital for insanity.
You cannot win and I believe that is our major set back. If things are true, we cannot explain, we will dismiss them. If things aren't true because of fact, we will dismiss them.
Oh well..
11-07-2007, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DogSmoke
I hate the thought that amazing things like finding other living planets will happen beyond my lifetime
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
We'll be living on Mars within 30 years tho!
I think that there has to be other life, especially seeing as it all begins with chemical reactions. Only thing is, are there other planets with oxygen?
Makes it even less likely we will ever interact with those other beings if they live in such vastly different surroundings of course!