Its just that my alcon 6 paddle has started to slip after 6,000 miles ish.
My saph about 400 bhp with normal use and the odd bit of hooning around.
Is this normal?

 

Oh and can you buy just the alcon plate and where from?

 

yes you can cost about a oner or just over on it's own Burtons!

miles all depends on the driver tbh!

 

My Exedy paddle lasted 26k miles in my evo 6...


Put a AP 4 paddle in my 4x4 cossie and it is still in with the new owner after about 6k miles...

 

my alcon is nearly at 10 k with no hassles

 

I bet you're using the standard Ford cover . This is only rated to stage 1 power, so 6000miles is good considering .

The Alcon drive plate is listed on my website, Alvyn is getting confused with the cost of the standard cover (which isn't worth a wank ).

With 500bhp / 2wd and launching etc, I used to get 10k out of my FULL Alcon clutch. Switching to 4x4 and hydraulic arrangement, I get in excess of 15k....

 

....had my ap 6 pad for 12k now, 9kish at 360bhp and now at 420bhp....with a standard cover MIKE..... and i drive like an idiot....

 

i have an AP 6 paddle with ford cover on my car, works fine @ 450 BHP but dose slip if i launch hard more than 10 times with the anti lag on !!!

but with it off its fine, i would prob say that 450 is the limit of a ford cover and AP 6

not sure on mileage , done prob near 3k with only ALS abuse prob.....

going full AP and hydraulic clutch soon to be safe.....

i would say 6K is a bit soon really, get a full kit, skim the flywheel and fit a new cable. if you still have probs go hydraulic.....

 

The Alcon drive plate is listed on my website, Alvyn is getting confused with the cost of the standard cover (which isn't worth a wank :cry: ).

NO I aint he asked can you buy the plate on it's own NOT THE COVER and standard cover can work WELL with the 6 plate and it gives a lighter pedal(for road use) so it's NOT THE ON/OFF FEELING that you get using the full set up!

 

full alcon set up on mine.

feels ok when driving..

 

Those that have no problems, it may be that yopu have the old Ford cover, which was made by AP Borg & Beck and was fine to 400bhp . Unfortunately in Ford's infinite cost-cutting wisdom, they switched supplier to some shonky Sachs arrangement, which is totally rubbish .

Alvyn,
You can buy the Alcon paddle on it's own, but it is certainley more than the oner you quoted, hence why I thought you were getting confused .

 

Just to clear it up. I have a full alcon clutch. Drives much nicer than previous 4 paddle. just slips a bit!

 

me too mate

 

why does it slip tho?

 

Could be a fitting issue.

The following procedue MUST be followed to ensure longevity of clutch:

1. Brand new clutch cable fitted (as these stretch with age and so won't disengage the clutch fully, causing the clutch to drag and wear prematurely).
2. Flywheel surface ground (if not, it will have raised hot-spots on that will drag on the clutch and cause same issues as above).

 

mine lasted 8k, but was 2nd and had it re padded at ap aswell before i fitted

carnt complain as i was given it

and my car got driven hard, also scrapped my flywheel aswell though due to launches

Mike Rainbird


i have a brand new alcon kit sat here i bought a few years ago off pj motorsport, how can i tell which cover i hae asi dont want the std one

so may have to buy a clutch cover

 

Look at the cover and if it says AP Borg & Beck on it, it will be fine. Also if bought brand new, the box it came in will be a clue .

 

For those not getting reasonable miles, forget about how hard you drive it - how do you drive in slow moving traffic - plenty of handbrake use, or do you ride the clutch?

 

just had a look

the box is just a alcon brake components box

teh cover just says made in england with a etched number but no ap any where

and the description on the box just says cos cover?

carnt read the part number as its ripped off but sure it says 0.50 cover plate

take it im going to have to bu a proper one then

 

....i try to leave a gap and then just come off the pedal fast and jerk along the road.... i've always used the clutch in a on off manor and it seems to have been alright (touch wood)...the box is out at the moment and after 12-13k ish the clutch still has miles left...how long ?????

 

i never ride the clutch....

cos you cant

well you can but it feels terrible.

i drive like pete...

 

i use a Helix,

over 6k miles old, and 450ish bhp.


a few easy launches, sprints and quite a few track days..


Did slip @ brunters for a day, but was due to quadrant/rachet playing up, and since made my own clutch arm/quadrant. And has been fine since.


Always fit a new/good cable heat wrapped, and new quadrant/rachet.
(best part of 2 hours max and £35),


Or fit a hydrolic conversion,