Why do they do such mindless things like this?

Total scum!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/6139662.stm

 

Disrespectable wankers

 

I just think about the people that gave their lives so cunts like this could behave in this fashion. Disgusting

 

Sickening!

 

If caught... they'd probably get off with only a warning

 

This is a disgrace in my opinion , how can u have such disrespect ,

fookin c#nts

 

The culprit/s probably dont even know what it means and find the dead an easy victim ...shame they dont have the gonads to try that kind of shit on the living!

 

spot on there mate,spot on!

 

bring back hanging

 

Wanker's




Brian

 

Could have been worse!

It'll wash off......

 

I just don't understand the mentality of people who choose to follow some dead austrian geezer who eventually got his arse kicked by the allies before shooting himself like a coward and being burnt by a butler before the russians got their hands on him,

if it wasn't for the men and women who gave their lives during both world wars the cunts that done this wouldn't even fucking be here, wise up you sad bastards


Luciano

 

fucking sick wankers

if it wernm't for what they diod back then we prob wont be here now

 

i live there and it fucks me off sick c##ts

 

That is sickining!!

i was part of a memorial service this morn, our war memorial has been severly damaged in the past,

I know a man who was only 20 in 1940 when he was called up for service, spent 6.5 years in the army,

the fact people went willingly to fight for their country, to protect our way of live, an scum do this to the memorials that honour them,

 

Uneducated wankers that clearly dont know what the fook that represents

Should catch them and make it publicly known who they are and maybe make them have a chat with some people who has had experience with NAzis

 

Dont want to sound shitty,But do you actually know what the Swastika means?

 

Lets hope whoever did that dies a long painfull death

 

Well if it had dots in it i know its part of hinduism sign

But what you getting at Radders its clearly there to symbol Nazism and thats clear the intention of it being put of a War memorial. These people who put it there proberly think Hitler was a good guy Just scum imo.

Why what do you think they are trying to say actuall interested!?

 

Like I said, I didnt want to get shitty and I wont , Just alot of people tend to think of it as a bad sign when its actally not!

just because of what it was used in WW2, People tend to jump the gun


Im not saying that what was done is right, Its not! Complete cunts if you ask me

But then I dont think it was done by racist people, Looks like graffiti from teenagers with a rattle can who thinks its cool, and have NO knowedge of the symbol!

IMO It would have been done in a much larger scale. if it was done by a 'group'

 

The Oldest Known Symbol

The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika was used by many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II.

A Change in Meaning

In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerability and the stigma of youth, German nationalists in the mid-nineteenth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins, to represent a long Germanic/Aryan history.

By the end of the nineteenth century, the swastika could be found on nationalist German volkisch periodicals and was the official emblem of the German Gymnasts' League.

In the beginning of the twentieth century, the swastika was a common symbol of German nationalism and could be found in a multitude of places such as the emblem for the Wandervogel, a German youth movement; on Joerg Lanz von Liebenfels' antisemitic periodical Ostara; on various Freikorps units; and as an emblem of the Thule Society.

Hitler and the Nazis

In 1920, Adolf Hitler decided that the Nazi Party needed its own insignia and flag. For Hitler, the new flag had to be "a symbol of our own struggle" as well as "highly effective as a poster." (Mein Kampf, pg. 495)

On August 7, 1920, at the Salzburg Congress, this flag became the official emblem of the Nazi Party.



In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)

Because of the Nazis' flag, the swastika soon became a symbol of hate, antisemitism, violence, death, and murder.

What Does the Swastika Mean Now?

There is a great debate as to what the swastika means now. For 3,000 years, the swastika meant life and good luck. But because of the Nazis, it has also taken on a meaning of death and hate.

These conflicting meanings are causing problems in today's society. For Buddhists and Hindus, the swastika is a very religious symbol that is commonly used. Chirag Badlani shares a story about one time when he went to make some photocopies of some Hindu Gods for his temple. While standing in line to pay for the photocopies, some people behind him in line noticed that one of the pictures had a swastika. They called him a Nazi.

Unfortunately, the Nazis were so effective at their use of the swastika emblem, that many do not even know any other meaning for the swastika. Can there be two completely opposite meanings for one symbol?

In ancient times, the direction of the swastika was interchangeable as can be seen on an ancient Chinese silk drawing.

Some cultures in the past had differentiated between the clockwise swastika and the counter-clockwise sauvastika. In these cultures the swastika symbolized health and life while the sauvastika took on a mystical meaning of bad-luck or misfortune.

But since the Nazis use of the swastika, some people are trying to differentiate the two meanings of the swastika by varying its direction - trying to make the clockwise, Nazi version of the swastika mean hate and death while the counter-clockwise version would hold the ancient meaning of the symbol, life and good-luck
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Basically, the swastika means life and goodluck, and when the Nazi's used it, it meant just that. But because the world views the actions of the Nazi's as barbaric and evil, it is considered and evil sign and attributed to mean hate and death.......

 

But Radders, a sign is what people interpret it as. And as Thrush said it has now been hijacked as a Nazi symbol and thus it is now seen as.

 

Sorry, but if it was done on a persons house, park, car or something, then mindless vandals.

When its done on a War memorial.. there is no doubt, it was done by someone who know it was upsetting.

 

Rhys - I agree, but also dissagree in aspects. The symbol is now widely associated with death, hate and antisemitism, but this is because of how the actions of the Nazi's are precieved. The Nazi's didn't percieve them that way, and thats not why they chose the swastika as their emblem. You have to remember that in war there are two sides (basically) good and bad. But each "side" belives themselves to be the good, and the enemy to be the bad. To the Germans, the Union Jack and/or the St George's Flag could also have been seen as the symbol of oppression and hate and death - as essentially we were oppressing their nation, killing them and we hated them....

It's all about the point of view!

So really, the symbol DOES mean life and goodluck, and always will. But it has had a shadow cast over it because of the actions by the last known party to use it.

 

Also true, but I wasn't gonna say it as it was splitting hairs! Mindless would be painting your nane or "tag" - painting a well known symbol, that would be known to cause uproar is not mindless. It's actually clever (no, I am not applauding it, just looking at it objectively)

 

Well said.

 

Now THAT I agree with, pretty much summed it up really Matt... Unlikely the cocks knew what the symbol originally meant, or how long it has been around, but knew it is attributed to Nazism, and knew it would be construed as disrespecful against british soilders from WWII...

And looks like they acheived in what they set out to do....

So really, who's the bigger fool? Them for doing it, or us for putting it in the news and bitching about it on the internet?

They got what they wanted - publicity, to create anger and be noticed. Had we had ignored it, and done nothing (other than to clean it off) they wouldn't have got the reaction they wanted, and whilst it would probably still happen again, over time of it being ignored, it would stop because they aren't getting the reaction they want.

 

Ignoring it would have done fook all too

 

Not so Rhys. I'm not saying that ignore it this one time and it goes away, but the basic principal of ignoring and/or not creating a reaction WILL stop the activity!

 

thats all they are is scum mindless cruel twats who dont know what life
is about its sad that people still do things like that

 

Sad place (world) we all live in ...

 

 

mindless scum

 

Agreed and i ever catch cunts doing something similar then by the time I'm finished with them they will understand respect!!!