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Old 06-03-2013, 04:35 PM
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Default Spec'ing up my 400bhp Cossie Lump. Have i missed anything?

Im after a little info please as i've started on my YB lump which i want to see close to 400bhp. If the engine builders / people in the know would cast their eye over this please and tell me if im going wrong or have missed anything it would be gratefully appreciated.

Spec:

Bottom End

205 Block
Std Crank
Std Rods
Std Pistons
Std Flywheel
Std sump and baffle
New Main & Big end shells
New rings

Oil pump is being checked, but to be honest ill probably just replace it.

The above will be going to woodmill engineering for the block to be pressure tested, assembled and balanced next week. Should i get new main and big end bolts?

Head

Std Head - Polished ports
Std Cams
Std Valves - Re-seated
New Stem Seals
Currently Std valve springs - Should i change to double?
Advised to use Std head bolts
What Head gasket should i use? Head is 139.1mm but i may have it skimmed (im waiting on an answer), block 207mm

Forced Induction

4x4 Polished Inlet Plenum & Trumpets with spacer
4x4 Exhaust Manifold
T34 .63
Grey 403's or Black 55's - which ever i find first
Airtec RS500 style cooler which i want to order, but what size core and outlets do i need?


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Go for double valve springs as they rev nicer

Small turbo escort cosworth head gasket

Arp bolt set
Standard head bolts

2wd exhaust manifold as 4x4 ones are shit
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Originally Posted by v man
Go for double valve springs as they rev nicer

Small turbo escort cosworth head gasket

Arp bolt set
Standard head bolts

2wd exhaust manifold as 4x4 ones are shit
Thats my problem, my 2wd head has the mount cut off of it

I have no idea why, like it when i bought it.

Thanks for the advice
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Originally Posted by v man

2wd exhaust manifold as 4x4 ones are shit
Bullshit.
If anything they help improve spool up, and are not restrictive at 400bhp, mine is doing over 500 on a 4wd manifold.
Use whatever exhaust manifold you have available
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Just had a similar spec built at scs, they advised using a 205 block and std head gasket would be pushed at 400, if your paying out for a rebuild why not future proof your self, 200 block 6 long stud and metal head gasket then you wont have to cross your fingers every time you but ya foot down.
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Go for the biggest core intercooler you can afford, but keep with standard 63mm (iirc) in and outlets.
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Originally Posted by jamie956
Just had a similar spec built at scs, they advised using a 205 block and std head gasket would be pushed at 400, if your paying out for a rebuild why not future proof your self, 200 block 6 long stud and metal head gasket then you wont have to cross your fingers every time you but ya foot down.
Ive got loads of 205 blocks and not the money for a std bore 200 block. To be honest the money 200 block make these day i would rather bit the bullet and go to burton's for a alloy block.
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as above mate multi layer head gasket with arp head bolts.
the porting on the head is a must to see 400 are you going external wastegate?
everything else is fine cant remember what cams i used but can find out for you.
uprate your clutch aswell and cooling system and use a good breather system from both sides of the block.
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Originally Posted by sharky584
as above mate multi layer head gasket with arp head bolts.
the porting on the head is a must to see 400 are you going external wastegate?
everything else is fine cant remember what cams i used but can find out for you.
uprate your clutch aswell and cooling system and use a good breather system from both sides of the block.
Cant go external wastegate with a 4x4 manifold can i?

Ive gone for a 4x4 water pump and housing. 50mm core alloy rad. The enough do you think?

I was going to breath from both sides of the block upto a catch tank, think thats the same as you have done it?
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yeh dont think you can with that manifold but sure someone on here can verify that.
i changed from 50mm to 60mm core rad in mine and a 60mm turbo cooler coz they do run fookin hot and it was a massive improvement.
yeh my breather is both sides to seperator then to catch tank return to sump.
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So i should grab a set of

These
And these?
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yep defo mate and flywheel bolts.
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Sweet, thanks for all the comments lads. Keep em comin'
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you dont need a ported head for 400 but you will have to wring the turbo's neck!
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Agreed, head porting not required, and 380 is a more realistic target, 400 is a difficult figure to aim for. (awaits rsmatt with his dyno sheet )
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Who you going to get to set the car up ??

Ask there advise as they will tell you mods .

380 on that set up roughly , a t34 won't last as long as you think at 400bhp . Some will say t38 to 400 + bhp .
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I dropped tony a pm the other day and he was talking about a t36. I've heard of a t38 but not a t36. I'm interested in this.
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Originally Posted by cossie daz
Who you going to get to set the car up ??

Ask there advise as they will tell you mods .

380 on that set up roughly , a t34 won't last as long as you think at 400bhp . Some will say t38 to 400 + bhp .

t34 will be on its arse a 380/400 go with a t38 if you got a t34 send it to vince at crturbos he will spec it to a t38 will run 400 all day long and good for 450 if you wanted it, would also put a ABO7 inlet cam in

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Originally Posted by sharky584

Whats the spec of this engine?
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Originally Posted by Paul500+

t34 will be on its arse a 380/400 go with a t38 if you got a t34 send it to vince at crturbos he will spec it to a t38 will run 400 all day long and good for 450 if you wanted it, would also put a ABO7 inlet cam in
what the cost to get the t34 .63 to the t38 spec? as when mines dies i would just upgrade it
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
I dropped tony a pm the other day and he was talking about a t36. I've heard of a t38 but not a t36. I'm interested in this.
was the t36 not built for the focus ?
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best to ring vince at crturbos m8 i carnt remember iv spent that much on different things, its down to turbo condition as well
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Originally Posted by pduane
Whats the spec of this engine?
205 block standard balanced internals t34 63 44external wastegate greys 3bar map light headwork i think they were bd16 cams.had custom inlet and exhaust manifolds made.
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Originally Posted by Paul500+
best to ring vince at crturbos m8 i carnt remember iv spent that much on different things, its down to turbo condition as well
hes the man to talk to for turbos for sure.
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Originally Posted by sharky584
205 block standard balanced internals t34 63 44external wastegate greys 3bar map light headwork i think they were bd16 cams.had custom inlet and exhaust manifolds made.
must have add pocketed pistons with bd16 cams
carnt see how bd16 cams would work with this spec ?
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Originally Posted by Paul500+
must have add pocketed pistons with bd16 cams
carnt see how bd16 cams would work with this spec ?
yeh pocketed pistons harvey gibbs said if it had more headwork it could have made more but i only wanted 405.
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as above i was told bd 14 / bd 8 for around the 380/400 spec and thats what i will be using
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i have polished ported head bd10s T4 turbo greys coolerford motorsport pistons? this is all according to reciepts from last owner and was pushing 350 but fuel pump was getting tired was told i should reach 370 once fuel pump is changed seems low compaired to others?
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Originally Posted by jimhc
i have polished ported head bd10s T4 turbo greys coolerford motorsport pistons? this is all according to reciepts from last owner and was pushing 350 but fuel pump was getting tired was told i should reach 370 once fuel pump is changed seems low compaired to others?
that turbo is good for 500 bhp with the right others parts
044 fuel pump?
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Originally Posted by jimhc
i have polished ported head bd10s T4 turbo greys coolerford motorsport pistons? this is all according to reciepts from last owner and was pushing 350 but fuel pump was getting tired was told i should reach 370 once fuel pump is changed seems low compaired to others?
with a t4 should be more like 470 lol
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can you use a 2wd ecuwith that power?
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Originally Posted by jimhc
can you use a 2wd ecuwith that power?
yes mate.
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what spec of chip would i need to run more than 370
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you really need to talk to a tuner to get the best result have it mapped job done.
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Originally Posted by jimhc
what spec of chip would i need to run more than 370
msd do off the shelf chips for 380
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as said rolling road is the best set up
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i think ill need to buy a unground crank to have more fun haha
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as im from scotland tuners up here are scairce. and i only go to 1 tuner i trust and his usual cars are evos(RUSS) at performance hq. do you get a chip to the spec you want i.e 400 410 420???
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i think if you called msd and told them your spec they could send you a chip mapped to suit the spec or bhp if spec allows but it will never be as good as a car thats been on the rollers , i am going to buy the 380 spec chip ..run the engine in then take it to msd to get set up as you said theres not many tuners in scotland for cosworths


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