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Old 18-02-2013, 01:43 PM
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Hi Guys, I'm going to fix two things to my diesel Mondeo 2003, one been a push start button and the other some Car Welcome Laser Projector Door Lights that go underneath the doors. Anyway on the relay box for the push start button they are 4 wires that are 2 blue, 1 red and 1 black and its says they need connecting to the key ignition switch but as i have never seen the wires for the ignition can anyone tell me what colour wires from the relay box does to what colour wires on the ignition switch?
Now, the wires on the Car Welcome Laser Projector Door Lights are what looks like 1 red and 1 black and all its says is, Connect the light wires to the car door light and verify the polarity is correct.? Can anyone tell me what colour wires i should connect these wires onto the door switch, the door switch meaning the car courtesy light?
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Sounds like you need an electrician mate. If you don't know how to find the wires, you're going to melt stuff!
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Assuming it's nothing fancy, there should be a wire going from the ignition barrel which goes to the solenoid, when the switch is in position 3 the power is sent from the via the main feed to this.

So you would need to take a feed from this to the push switch and then the original start wire from the switch and connect this to the push switch.

You still need to use the ignition switch and then use your push button to start, it seems pointless to me!

Red needs to be connected to a supply and the ground connected to the door switch, so it completes the ground side, I guess it says to do what it does as old cars have a positive ground.

No, the switch is what is actuated by the door, hence the name.

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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Assuming it's nothing fancy, there should be a wire going from the ignition barrel which goes to the solenoid, when the switch is in position 3 the power is sent from the via the main feed to this.

So you would need to take a feed from this to the push switch and then the original start wire from the switch and connect this to the push switch.

You still need to use the ignition switch and then use your push button to start, it seems pointless to me!

Red needs to be connected to a supply and the ground connected to the door switch, so it completes the ground side, I guess it says to do what it does as old cars have a positive ground.

No, the switch is what is actuated by the door, hence the name.

Martin
I have found out how to do the Car Welcome Laser Projector Door Lights its just the push start button i'm not too sure about, what colour wires go to what colour wires on the ignition.
It may be a bit pointless having a push start button but i have a bit of a wrist injury and would just find it easer to push start the car with my left hand.
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that would look a bit naff no? goin to the trouble of looking for right key,putting key in ignition,turning key to no2, THEN pushing a button.lol
oh well,whatever floats yer boat
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Originally Posted by wulliegunn
that would look a bit naff no? goin to the trouble of looking for right key,putting key in ignition,turning key to no2, THEN pushing a button.lol
oh well,whatever floats yer boat
Naff? I don't think so, Sometimes you have got to move with the times and come out of the past. Some of us like electric windows whereas people that are a bit old fashioned like them wind up handle things?
Each to there own i suppose!
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yeah but my point bein wont it look naff havin to put a key in,turn it,then push a button?i dont see the point
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As above, the push button start does seem a bit pointless, you still need the key in the ignition on position 2 to disengage the steering lock and turn the ignition on. I bet the button would get used all of about twice by the time the novelty wore off!
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Originally Posted by Tidon
Naff? I don't think so, Sometimes you have got to move with the times and come out of the past. Some of us like electric windows whereas people that are a bit old fashioned like them wind up handle things?
Each to there own i suppose!
Which would be true if you were installing a keyless system like the new Fords. But you're just installing an extra button which you've got to press after you've turned the key, making it a bit pointless, and not 'with the times' in the slightest.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Which would be true if you were installing a keyless system like the new Fords. But you're just installing an extra button which you've got to press after you've turned the key, making it a bit pointless, and not 'with the times' in the slightest.
Lol and supposedly there is a loop hole in this, so hardly progression.

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I know what you guys are saying but to me it wont be pointless as i'm always stopping and starting the car a lot and like i said in my post earlier i have a bit of a wrist injury and after twisting the ignition a lot i end up with pain in my wrist so although it might be pointless to some it wont be pointless to me.
I remember when they put LED lights in trainers, pointless yes but people still bought them.
I'll borrow a volt meter off someone and suss the wires where they go and I'll make a video and put it up on youtube so others know how to do it..
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Be careful with the lights as you need to run the wires from one light feed and back to he return for that feed again or they will either turn on and not go off or they won't turn on at all

Been there done that

As for the switch, yes, you will need someone who knows what they are doing or else you will end up with a car fire

Not hating, just telling it like it is, I went through loads of grief trying to get my turbo timer wired up in my estate and the wires were so thick I couldn't screw the steering cowling back up again
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Lol and supposedly there is a loop hole in this, so hardly progression.

Martin
What loophole?
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Originally Posted by dojj
Be careful with the lights as you need to run the wires from one light feed and back to he return for that feed again or they will either turn on and not go off or they won't turn on at all

Been there done that

As for the switch, yes, you will need someone who knows what they are doing or else you will end up with a car fire

Not hating, just telling it like it is, I went through loads of grief trying to get my turbo timer wired up in my estate and the wires were so thick I couldn't screw the steering cowling back up again
I've pretty much got the lights sussed as i found a diagram of the fuse and reply box behind the glove compartment where to put the wires its just the ignition wires i'm stuck on but i'll keep searching and no not to do anything hasty as i will be 100% sure before i go touching any wires i don't no.
Cheers anyway pal.
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Just as long as you remember that the diseasals might need a period of ignition on to sort the glow plugs out I'm sure someone will be able to help you
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Originally Posted by dojj
Just as long as you remember that the diseasals might need a period of ignition on to sort the glow plugs out I'm sure someone will be able to help you
Yes i always give it a pause before i start the car but doubt i will get a answer here as it appears its a pointless bit of kit but i will suss it out.
Cheers anyway..
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It's just a case of using the existing wires on the ignition, there should be one from position 3, so this needs to go one side of the switch and a feed taken from the ignition pos 2 live to the other, this is replicating the setup of the current switch.

All it will do is send power to a relay which then switches the main feed to the starter, that is what draws a lot of current, but yes in any case you do need to make sure your switch is rated correctly etc.

Martin
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
What loophole?
Apparently they are not that secure, something like the emitter can easily be 'cloned' thus it can then be used to open/start the car.

There was a thread on here about it as well...

Martin
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Seen as they have been a lot of interest in this post (333 views so far) i have now found out how to install the push button and lights i will make a dummies guide video for others if you wish to do these to you car and i will post a link to youtube but it wont be for a few weeks!
Cheers to all who helped.
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I'd be interested to see it, purely to see what wires do what as opposed to fitting the button (although I would like to see where you e positioned it )
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Originally Posted by dojj
I'd be interested to see it, purely to see what wires do what as opposed to fitting the button (although I would like to see where you e positioned it )
It's just a case of finding the starter and ignition live, i.e. 2 wires, anyone even with basic electrical knowledge can do this.

Martin
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