hineho87

Hi,

Iv seen a few threads and few companies that have turbo'd the 1.8 blacktop zetec focus and was interested in looking into this myself.

Iv been told i can safely run up to 200bhp on std internals which interests me. Im not looking to spend stupid money on a turbo conversion as it would end up been cheaper to just buy a faster std car.

Iv been told the escort rs turbo manifold and turbo can be used as a cheaper option, not sure if anyone has done this?

My questions are:
- is it worth doing using the ERST manifold/turbo?
- will i need aftermarket management or can i just map my std ecu?
- is std inlet manifold ok? Will i need uprated injectors?
- any other parts need uprating? (iv currently got full exhaust/induction/cam mods)
- will my gearbox be ok running that power? if not wot other options are there?
- what sort of costs would the parts cost and rough idea on fittin costs/time?

Im also going to upgrade my brakes if i do this as well.

If there is anything else i need know i would appreciate it.

Iv also emailed a few tuners as well to get some info, but wouldnt mind unbiased info as well

Thanks

Sp3no

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Buy a focus RS engine and fit it and save yourself a fortune

chaffe

i wouldnt bother with the ib5 box and 1.8 zetec IMO, mtx 75 and at least 2 litres. As said get a FRS engine, box and turbo, driveshafts, the whole lot and run it on aftermarket management.

hineho87

dont really want be spending that sort of money doing this really as wud prefer av a car that cud handle this power and was realiable with it. My m8 had a 240bhp leon cupra that was fun drive but was always breaking!

so really was just looking at cheaper option to see if it was worthwhile doing and just happy with a basic turbo as not looking for big power, just looking for something a bit more fun to drive

hogdog

The deal breaker is the IB5, it's not even strong enough for a very mild conversion.

Davemurphy007

There's no way in hell you are going to be able to achieve this with the 1.8's chocolate pistons, shitty clutch and fragile gearbox.

Either start a build with a 2.0 litre blacktop engine which has Mahle pistons as standard and under piston oil squirters (just be aware the rods and rod bolts are the weak link) or drop in a Focus RS engine (buy a written off one and swap everything over).

Now that that bit's out of the way.


My questions are:
- is it worth doing using the ERST manifold/turbo? Focus RS exhaust manifold will be a much better yet still fairly cheap option
- will i need aftermarket management or can i just map my std ecu? You will need an aftermarket ECU - you CANNOT convert to forced induction with just a remap
- is std inlet manifold ok? Will i need uprated injectors? Uprated injectors for definite. Pass on the standard inlet manifold (though bear in mind it's plastic!)
- any other parts need uprating? (iv currently got full exhaust/induction/cam mods) Throw out the cams you have, if they are aftermarket jobbies for an NA engine then they will be no good for a turbo engine
- will my gearbox be ok running that power? if not wot other options are there? Already made my point on that one. You'll blow it apart without much effort, assuming you can stop the clutch slipping
- what sort of costs would the parts cost and rough idea on fittin costs/time? A decent, reliable turbo conversion starts at around 5k using decent spec parts, aftermarket parts and a decent mapping session

There's no such thing as a 'cheap' turbo conversion - you either pay for it upfront to be done properly or you do it on the cheap to begin with then spend a fortune over the long run fixing all the things that break.

hogdog

^ What Dave said plus the inlet manifold is fine, I know of someone running 24psi on it without problems.

focusrrx87

mine is at enhanched performance being finished and mapped,

2.1 zetec, forged pistons/rods p.e.c bearings, arp bolts, gt25 with thrust bearing (for now) mtx75 with lsd, 6 paddle clutch, plus a massive list of other parts injectors, fuel pump, swirl pot ect ect

on the plus side of 5k already, going gt28 and racing concept manifold next year thats another 2k!!

cheapest option for you is focus rs engine.

hineho87

cheers for the info m8, will give it a miss in that case.

cheers for the info m8, glad thats all cleared up. I av bin gettin various different people and tuners givin me different info so its gud to know its not worth doing to a 1.8. Iv seen one company who had a 1.8 turbo with 230/240 bhp with std internals but didnt think that wud be safe lol.

Will keep me eye out for an st focus and buy one instead as i cant fix my car or build the car myself so cud end up spending loads!!

Least i know now and im not one of those people who bodges it cheap first time and spends more sorting it out, but just wondered if there was a cheap reliable alternative to an rs transplant

cheers m8, ur car sounds gud, bet it will go well. I dont really want be spending that sort of money plus i wud be paying someone to this for me, so finding someone who knows what there doing it hard as well.

nealo

I looked into this, even to buy just an Focus RS engine your looking at 1800 quid, its really really expensive :/

hineho87

cheers for reply m8, iv decided to give it a miss now. Gona buy a car that has better std power or power already there, so lookin like a focus ST or Festa ST

Sp3no

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Give the Fiesta ST a miss they really are a wet weekend, nothing special there at all without spending mega bucks again.

Doajim

In the process of building mine into a 2.1zetec turbo. Was told the same and just buy a smashed frs but want to build my own and i aint in to much of a hurry yet lol.

hineho87

Fair enuf m8, iv been out in a few T165's and ST185's and im impressed. I prefer the focus st but its big car and cant really afford the extra costs involved as wud prefer spend me money elsewhere.

Wit the Fez St with simple suspension/exhaust/induction mods they are loads better and how they shud come out of the factory

Also think i wud get meself in a bit too much trouble with an Focus ST as well lol