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my car has been tucked up in the garage since oct i go once a week start it up and leve it running for 20 mins or so drive it ou the garage and around the corner and back always starts on the button best one infact ive ever had , well sun get it out leave it running everything is fine switch it off do what i had to do in the garage go back to the car and it wont start fuel in it bout month old , its getting fuel up to the injectors , its got a spark on coil and on all 4 plugs , towed it and all it does is turn over whats wrong with it ???? please someone help as it feature came out today and i wanna get it out and show it off a little lol .
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no not at all when first tried an almost attempt but nothing really then just turns over never had this problem before always been 110 % starts on the button ? yer stone cold as has been in the garage ?
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yer ive undone injector pipes on top of metering ead there is fuel when turned over and undont the fuel filter to see if petrol was ther and it is wierd why it run fine then i turned it off went back half hour later and its not firing
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done both of them , also changed dizzy with new cap and leads just in case . wondered if it could be something to do wit the metering head ? wondered what else electrical it could be also ive petrol ive a spark at all 4 plugs wondered if it could be anything else
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turns over fine starter motor is ok but il still check it , didnt run long enough to get that hot and hasnt been driven in 3 months :O( as its feature has just come out i wanna bring it out and show it off :O(
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Steam bubbles in the fuel system?
When you turn the engine off the heat from the engine heats up the fuel inside the fuel lines. Small steam bubbles start to build up inside the lines and expand more and more the longer the engine is hot and not running. Fuel is pumped back through the metering head and the fuel pump into the tank.
So when you try to start again the K/KE-Jetronic need ~ 3bar @ injector to open it. The fuel pump tries to build up pressure but the only thing that is happening is the steam bubbles being compressed so there's not enough pressure left @ injector to open it. The only thing that prevents something like this is a small shut off valve on top of the fuel pump that prevents fuel being pressed back into the tank. When this is stuck/missing you'll face the problems you describe. I'm not quite sure if you get it @ Ford, but any Bosch service station should be able to get one for you. These fuel pumps were also widely used in VW, Audi and Mercedes Cars.
When you turn the engine off the heat from the engine heats up the fuel inside the fuel lines. Small steam bubbles start to build up inside the lines and expand more and more the longer the engine is hot and not running. Fuel is pumped back through the metering head and the fuel pump into the tank.
So when you try to start again the K/KE-Jetronic need ~ 3bar @ injector to open it. The fuel pump tries to build up pressure but the only thing that is happening is the steam bubbles being compressed so there's not enough pressure left @ injector to open it. The only thing that prevents something like this is a small shut off valve on top of the fuel pump that prevents fuel being pressed back into the tank. When this is stuck/missing you'll face the problems you describe. I'm not quite sure if you get it @ Ford, but any Bosch service station should be able to get one for you. These fuel pumps were also widely used in VW, Audi and Mercedes Cars.
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Try taking the injectors out and put them in a plastic bottle to make sure they are spraying properly when cranking the car over.
Normally you can push the flap down on the metering unit as someone turns the ignition.
If there is air bubbles or pressure you could try and relieve the system by disconnecting the filter.
Normally you can push the flap down on the metering unit as someone turns the ignition.
If there is air bubbles or pressure you could try and relieve the system by disconnecting the filter.
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id def try pushin the lil flap down a lil bit why terning it over,only open about 2-3mm and see if it does anythink,could even try easy start just to see if it gets it 2 berp or anythink
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right went up the garage today . put Ł20 of super in just in case nope half a tank and still the same . now if i was flooded sure over night would have had time to sort itself out still no attempt to start but turns over fine you can smell petrol in the garage from turning it over no leaks just general fumes held flap down still nothing ? and you can see the flap moving as it should on turnover mmmmmmmmmmmm odd one really that i cant work out have spark on al 4 plugs and after coil which there is a group a one installed
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