strawhead_rst

as title what is the best one to go for.

the car is gettin restored so i want to do any modifing to the chassis leg now before the bay is painted.

is the standard 2.0 zetec box any good

rsmark86

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depends what power you want to run mate...

anything upto around 280/300bhp and a cts stage2+ or a jamsport big bearing box will do ... anything above and i would put a mtx75 in it and the best place to look is www.oddkiddcreations.co.uk as on there somewhere is a guide on how to do it...

strawhead_rst

i havent really decided what power yet probably around 250 to 300. any idea on the price of a jamsport box. i mite be aswell doing the mtx75 box and be done with it

how much are custom driveshafts for the mtx into a s2

studabear

A few people do the shafts, there are a couple of ways of doing them, get a few prices.

rsmark86

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ring oddkiddcreations or pm crazycage on here

Maxwell

Strawhead where abouts in N.I you from!?

strawhead_rst

scarva a small village outside banbridge

project rs

don't waste your money on any box but an mtx as the torque from a zvh will kill a bc box if used on regular basis and in the long run once it's done then you have peace of mind. the easiest way to do it is standard focus mtx with welded drive shafts to get you up and running then over time get hold of a atb for it and some dave mac shafts then it'll be almost indestructable

jonny s2

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yep mtx is the way lol

chaffe

as above, anything above 90 bhp you need an MTX75

marky_g

mate of mines just broken a cts stage 2+ hes gone mk1 focus RS gearbox now custom shafts and cable linkage

chaffe

if the bc/ib5 could be made bullet proof why did ford not modify it for the mondeo and bigger engined foci? they used a bigger, stronger gearbox based on the sierra mt75, the mtx 75. Much better solution IMO

-beefy-

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getrag 6 speed imo


beef

andy130

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why?

strawhead_rst

What model did the mtx come in was it all petrol mondeos and focus's

marky_g

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mk5 escort

strawhead_rst

Mk5 escort is the only 1 I can use then

jonny s2

iTrader: (12)

with yours being the zetec bottom end, you could usr the focus/mondeo jobbie starters are on the back, early rs2k boxes have the starter on the front

phil_focus

if yu go for a mk1 focus rs mtx75 box then it will already have the atb diff so you'll only have to sort out the shafts once its in.

strawhead_rst

I suppose a new atb is about the same as a rs gearbox
Is there any1 offering off the shelf drive shafts

phil_focus

i think project rs said Dave Mac does the shafts.

dont forget though that the focus uses an intermediate suport bearing on the drif=vers side shaft that has a bracket bolted to the block. on the rs the bearing is a little smaller and utilises a different bracket as i think the oil cooler stuff or something gets in the way otherwise.

-beefy-

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why not andy,

compact proven box , rember it weas what si smail ran in the sitec rst with around 460 brake of zvh torqe ,

there cheap , easy to mod n fit ,


and highy capeable ,


and you got the added advantage of the 6th for long journeys ,

strawhead_rst

I no that you need a dear flywheel and clutch for the 6 speeder but why can you not use the st 170 flywheel and a updated clutch

chaffe

And the gear linkage, and the mounts, and the speedo drive, clutch, flywheel. but a good strong mod.

12_Second_rst

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the ratios are wank the standard flywheel is duel mass

a good clutch and flywheel costs Ł600

no diff Ł500 for an atb diff

electronic speedo drive Ł200 for a good speedo

still need shaftsand the gearchange hits the servo so ideally u need a pedal box

mtx ftw imo

chaffe

my first mtx75 conversion cost less than Ł100, gearbox was Ł30 with the shafts, did all the mods and fab work myself. bought a few things like new cv boots and gear oil etc. My second mtx conversion cost the same plus 450 for a new atb diff (frs boxes where hard to find at the time)

marky_g

id also herd st170 box was an arse ach to get working properly

chaffe

id fit either saying that, as long as you could get either for less than 50 quid

12_Second_rst

iTrader: (1)

its worth noteing that the frs box needs an electronic speedo aswell so may be cheeper to buy an older type mtx75 with mechanical drive and buy a diff as an old type box can be had for about 50

500 for a diff

frs boxes are about 500 anyway so you save 200 for the speedo and have a brand new diff and all the arsing about with electronic speedos

chaffe

the diff is very easy to change too

12_Second_rst

iTrader: (1)

never stripped an mtx box but cant imagine it being worse than a bloody bc ive done about 6 bc boxes now and 5th gear never gets any easier

bigryrs

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Ive got a kit for sale on here! check it out mate

chaffe

you dont need to go into the gears at all, just break the casings, the diff falls out, change the crown wheel and bearings, place it back in and put the casings back together

chaffe

good kit may i add

phil_focus

thats what i meant by "once in" as you have to do all that anyway for an mtx75.
my point was purly to get a box with a decent diff in as it will cost more to buy a standard box and a new diff and then you still have to pull the box apart to fit it. this is of course asuming you want the atb diff rather than any other.

strawhead_rst

would a 98 mondeo 1.8 have the mtx box and a mechanical speedo i no where there is one lying thats why i ask. but i dont want to go to the mans yard look at it and buy if it not going to do my job

sorry for all the questions and a big thanks to every for there help

chaffe

yeah mate, but starter is at the back. think speedo is electronic. MK5/6 td escort is the box to have rod shift, taller ratios, starter at the front, and the shafts are one piece and can be re splined to fit the outer cvs of the mk3/4

phil_focus

thats a good idea, sounds cheaper and easier than my rs box idea.

12_Second_rst

iTrader: (1)

if i was needing a box i would buy a box and have a plated diff rather than an atb

strawhead_rst

im on a zvh so i thought it didnt matter where the starter was front or back
if i do get a cheap box with a electric speedo is it just a case of getting a mechanical drive unit off one of the older boxs