Well 17psi is my limit for now.....
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...... bloody AP CP2000-8 is slipping if I go over about 17-18psi! ![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
Looks like my new wheels are going on hold and it's time to splash on another new clutch!
On a positive note I must be making fairly good power for it to slip as the boost comes in nice and smooth without much of a torque spike (boost was hitting about 21psi and holding around 18-19psi, just before slipping)![](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/roi.gif)
Are there any alternatives to the AP CP2000-35?
As that is the best they do before going paddle which I dont want to do!
Karlos.
PS... it is fucking lively though!!
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Looks like my new wheels are going on hold and it's time to splash on another new clutch!
On a positive note I must be making fairly good power for it to slip as the boost comes in nice and smooth without much of a torque spike (boost was hitting about 21psi and holding around 18-19psi, just before slipping)
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Are there any alternatives to the AP CP2000-35?
As that is the best they do before going paddle which I dont want to do!
Karlos.
PS... it is fucking lively though!!
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The Cp2000-35 is actually their highest rated clutch for the rst.....the paddle plate makes no difference as regards what torque they can handle. I actually spoke to Ap when i bought one a couple of years ago now and was told i could have the 2000-35 with a paddle plate if i so wished but it would be no better so to speak than the organic plate they use in that clutch as it's the cover that makes the difference. For the record i've had a -35 in for a couple of years with the car running 250bhp/230ft pounds....pod, brunters, trackdays and never had it slip. Be ideal for the sort of power i imagine you're running and nicer to drive than a paddle.
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Still got plenty more boost to go!!
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The Cp2000-35 is actually their highest rated clutch for the rst.....the paddle plate makes no difference as regards what torque they can handle. I actually spoke to Ap when i bought one a couple of years ago now and was told i could have the 2000-35 with a paddle plate if i so wished but it would be no better so to speak than the organic plate they use in that clutch as it's the cover that makes the difference. For the record i've had a -35 in for a couple of years with the car running 250bhp/230ft pounds....pod, brunters, trackdays and never had it slip. Be ideal for the sort of power i imagine you're running and nicer to drive than a paddle.
The paddle with the same cover will hold more torque because the pressure is spread over the surface area of only the 4 paddles, rather than the whole organic plate, so whoever told you that on the phone is a little off the mark! lol
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None the less thats the one i'll go for!! Unless there is a better alternative?
Last edited by Karlos G; 09-09-2009 at 11:10 PM.
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Mapping isnt finished yet Chris69, although now I havent got to map over 17psi (for now
) it will speed things up a bit! lol ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
I'm running a Turbo Technics Stage 2 T3 (36/55) but without cut back blades.
Once i've finished the mapping for upto 17psi i'll get it to Frost Mototrsport for a power run, they are my closest Dyno Dynamics RR and only Ł25!
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I'm running a Turbo Technics Stage 2 T3 (36/55) but without cut back blades.
Once i've finished the mapping for upto 17psi i'll get it to Frost Mototrsport for a power run, they are my closest Dyno Dynamics RR and only Ł25!
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Karlos i think there is something wrong with your clutch setup.
My cp2000-8 does not slip at all. never slipped even in 21 psi
My cp2000-8 does not slip at all. never slipped even in 21 psi
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It's my daily drive and I do a lot of town driving mostly.
Remeber it is only rated to 169lb/ft of torque, I know AP underate them a fair bit but still!
I know you are running a CP2000-8 and 250lb/ft but rolling roads can vary by 20-30lb/ft easy so might be closer to my figure?
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I have the 2000-35 fitted too.Fit and forget.Had no problem when I had 300ft/lb's.But don't have as much torque now,but cope's with anything I throw at it on track.I hate fitting clutch's,hence why I like the fit and forget from the -35.Regards,Micky
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How easy are they to change if i'm doing the clutch, or do I need the crank out? Cant picture it at the moment.
Yeah it's what i'll get, as you say fit and forget! I'm never going to make any where near 300ftlb.
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If you're gonna do the rear crank seal at the same time from personal experience i'd change the housing too to make sure it definately ain't gonna leak....you can still get them new from ford too
You don't need the crank out, the seal sits in the crankseal housing which bolts to the block fitting over then end of the crank if you can picture that.
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Hi mate ive got the crank seal tool if you get stuck u can borrow it, as it stops the seal catching on the edge of the crank. let me know what clutch u get as i need one n'all and im undecided weather to get another paddle or the high tourqe one ur on about
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Cheers Rob!
That would be handy if it is leaking, wont know till the gearbox is off and I can see though!
My thinking is... it's my daily drive so Organic all the way, i've done paddle before and hated it.
Excellent cheers!
That would be handy if it is leaking, wont know till the gearbox is off and I can see though!
My thinking is... it's my daily drive so Organic all the way, i've done paddle before and hated it.
If you're gonna do the rear crank seal at the same time from personal experience i'd change the housing too to make sure it definately ain't gonna leak....you can still get them new from ford too
You don't need the crank out, the seal sits in the crankseal housing which bolts to the block fitting over then end of the crank if you can picture that.
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It's very easy to change the seal once the flywheel is off. The -35 is a very good clutch, but it needs to be treated like a paddle in that the flywheel must be skimmed before fitting it, otherwise it can judder a little. You should also keep a spare clutch cable with you, as it's a heavy cover - i went through 3..
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That looks easy! Any pics of the pedal setup?
So I could use (for example) something like these......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Civic-CR...d=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-3-4-...d=p3286.c0.m14
Make up some brakets, and run a pipe between them, job done?
So I could use (for example) something like these......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Civic-CR...d=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-3-4-...d=p3286.c0.m14
Make up some brakets, and run a pipe between them, job done?
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That looks easy! Any pics of the pedal setup?
So I could use (for example) something like these......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Civic-CR...d=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-3-4-...d=p3286.c0.m14
Make up some brakets, and run a pipe between them, job done?
So I could use (for example) something like these......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Civic-CR...d=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-3-4-...d=p3286.c0.m14
Make up some brakets, and run a pipe between them, job done?
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i used this one the other week on a escort rst,really easy to fit, you just need to drill a 2" hole next the the one for you brakes on the bulk head and then drill a 8mm hole in the peddle 55mm down from the pivot point and use a m8x40 bold and the clevis pin in this link .then you need a slave cylinder job done.
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was just looking at the rest of your spec and wondering.
just wouldn't want you to put a new clutch in and then the bottom end deciding it doesn't like a few extra psi.....
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I'd like to run as much as I can really, just a case of seeing what the turbo can do........ if it can hold 25psi then i'll run 25psi if it can only hold 20psi then thats what i'll run! lol ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
So long as i'm not detonating, my ACT's are not too high, and i'm not lean it's all good!!
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So long as i'm not detonating, my ACT's are not too high, and i'm not lean it's all good!!
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I'd like to run as much as I can really, just a case of seeing what the turbo can do........ if it can hold 25psi then i'll run 25psi if it can only hold 20psi then thats what i'll run! lol ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
So long as i'm not detonating, my ACT's are not too high, and i'm not lean it's all good!!![](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/roi.gif)
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So long as i'm not detonating, my ACT's are not too high, and i'm not lean it's all good!!
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