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Old 10-07-2009, 09:56 PM
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Default Guys running 300+ bhp how are you putting down the power?

Wanted to know what mods you lot run to stop the rs turbo from spinning up?
is there any good tips?
i have adjustable tca's
and a bigger turbo
planning to get a atb diff.

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Old 10-07-2009, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by morph
Wanted to know what mods you lot run to stop the rs turbo from spinning up?
is there any good tips?
i have adjustable tca's
and a bigger turbo
planning to get a atb diff.

cheers
I have all the above but its all in bits so il let you know next year lol
Old 10-07-2009, 10:17 PM
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Tyres will make a massive difference

Get some Toyo R888s on it, made a huge difference to mine!
Old 10-07-2009, 10:22 PM
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on my starlet i had 888 a cusco LSD and aint lift kit there the things i found helped the most
Old 11-07-2009, 01:35 AM
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Could'nt tell you,I only have 250 BHP!!!! Will only be a handfull of proper 300+ BHP RST's on here.Regards,Micky
Old 11-07-2009, 05:10 AM
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Well i wont claim to have 300 but im certainly not far off..

I have a quaife diff which does help.. BUT i still have major problems with traction.. as someone said tyres will be next for me..
Old 11-07-2009, 05:38 AM
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With my right foot!

Yoko race rubber, Cossie diff, Zero'd back end.
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with the rest already mentioned,id say suspension geometry set up a must
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215/50/15 R888s
coilovers (set up right)
polly bushed
adjustable bottom arms
equal lenght drive shafts
focus rs box with diff
and it puts well over 300hp down no problem

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Old 11-07-2009, 07:52 AM
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205 50 15 R888 tyres
Koni shocks
polly bushes
ATB diff
A tested "toe out" setting
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Sticky tyres are a good way, but remember that the more grip you give it, the more likely you are to bust gearboxes.

I'm running 305bhp at the moment, it's my low-boost setting and it's amazing how sedate it feels. It's really laying the power down well. Not sure how it will be when I crank the boost up.
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I dont have 300, not even 230 maybe. My rst ran 14.4 / 164kmh quarter without wheelspin. I believe i can add 50bhp more and still no wheelspin problems.
I have simple packet:

Koni yellows
Powerflex
H&R Springs
Toyo T1R standard 15"
std lsd
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Ok i can't go with 888 as they dont do them in 195 x 40 or 45 and i am running escos wheels.
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mine use to run

gaz t/a suspension
eibach springs
poly bushed
adj tca's
think i had yoko a520's (not the best but ok in dry)

then i had all geometry set up

wasnt too bad really, lit the wheels if wanted to but once you got use to it was fine
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Sticky tyres are a good way, but remember that the more grip you give it, the more likely you are to bust gearboxes.

I'm running 305bhp at the moment, it's my low-boost setting and it's amazing how sedate it feels. It's really laying the power down well. Not sure how it will be when I crank the boost up.
305bhp @ low boost !!
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got full mef set up on rs1600i crossmember.adjutable tca's.coilovers and some toyo's.will be gettin it fully set up at sitech.only problem i have is ive only got about 250bhphopin for a decent mix of power and grip tho.
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Originally Posted by s1cab
305bhp @ low boost !!
LOL. My low boost is 1.5 bar to be fair.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
LOL. My low boost is 1.5 bar to be fair.
and mines 28psi to make 276bhp ! sounds like a perfect setup
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
LOL. My low boost is 1.5 bar to be fair.
and that is really sedate? are you running a laggy turbo?
1.5 bar that works out at around 25psi?
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Originally Posted by gus
mine use to run

gaz t/a suspension
eibach springs
poly bushed
adj tca's
think i had yoko a520's (not the best but ok in dry)

then i had all geometry set up

wasnt too bad really, lit the wheels if wanted to but once you got use to it was fine
and what power would that have been?
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Originally Posted by sas
205 50 15 R888 tyres
Koni shocks
polly bushes
ATB diff
A tested "toe out" setting
what toe out are you talking?
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Originally Posted by crazycage
215/50/15 R888s
coilovers (set up right)
polly bushed
adjustable bottom arms
equal lenght drive shafts
focus rs box with diff
and it puts well over 300hp down no problem
how did you run the equal lenght driveshafts? and what diff does that make?
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Originally Posted by morph
how did you run the equal lenght driveshafts? and what diff does that make?
mines a zetec turbo mate, and there ment to help with torque steer
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Originally Posted by morph
and that is really sedate? are you running a laggy turbo?
1.5 bar that works out at around 25psi?
well say 14.5 to a bar so id say 22psi
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Originally Posted by morph
and what power would that have been?

319bhp cant remember what the torques was
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Originally Posted by morph
and that is really sedate? are you running a laggy turbo?
1.5 bar that works out at around 25psi?
I'm running a fairly big turbo. Response isn't top priority.

Feels fucking ace on the road though. I did have a nasty torque-steery scary overtake moment on the way home tonight though. It's like torque-steer but up another notch. :cry;
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I'm running a fairly big turbo. Response isn't top priority.

Feels fucking ace on the road though. I did have a nasty torque-steery scary overtake moment on the way home tonight though. It's like torque-steer but up another notch. :cry;
laggy turbo sort of stops the whole wheel spining problem.
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Originally Posted by morph
laggy turbo sort of stops the whole wheel spining problem.
whys that???
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whats the minimum size turbo to break the 300bhp mark? can you do it on a stage 3 t3 or will it have to be a t34??
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mine and tom scarlets old one both made 300+ on t3's

but

it was pushing it

mine sort blew itself to bits, then i was running wild als without a proper shaft
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Originally Posted by morph
laggy turbo sort of stops the whole wheel spining problem.
I would say of all the things that stop it wheel-spinning, the laggy turbo isn't one of them. It'll just light the wheels up higher up the RPM's.
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Originally Posted by JamboRST
whys that???
Because by the time you get the car to boost the car is rolling so there is less weight to pull as the car is in motion. its a bit like this 0-60 thing, nearly all fwd cars will be much slower than 4wd and rwd and manufacters allways use this as a performance figure for all cars.
when in fact the true figure to understand a cars ability is a rolling car when says it already doing 30mph and then you measure how quick the car will reach 100 or 120,130mph.

i had a 2wd cossie turbo on my rs turbo and it would not come in on full boost any earlier than 4k rpm, but compared to my previous t3 it would not spin the wheels.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I would say of all the things that stop it wheel-spinning, the laggy turbo isn't one of them. It'll just light the wheels up higher up the RPM's.
didnt find this with mine, found that by the time the turbo was boosting fully the car was rolling enough to not break traction, but i didn't like the nature of this as around town it was too lame lower down and a very narrow power band!
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Originally Posted by morph
Because by the time you get the car to boost the car is rolling so there is less weight to pull as the car is in motion. its a bit like this 0-60 thing, nearly all fwd cars will be much slower than 4wd and rwd and manufacters allways use this as a performance figure for all cars.
when in fact the true figure to understand a cars ability is a rolling car when says it already doing 30mph and then you measure how quick the car will reach 100 or 120,130mph.

i had a 2wd cossie turbo on my rs turbo and it would not come in on full boost any earlier than 4k rpm, but compared to my previous t3 it would not spin the wheels.

thanks for educating me
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i just use my right foot
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dont no last time i drove mine it was spinning in 5th lol

loads of changes now tho so with abit of luck it will put it down
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
dont no last time i drove mine it was spinning in 5th lol

loads of changes now tho so with abit of luck it will put it down

Jamie and scot were trying to get me to run the same rear end set up as yours. Looks alot neater than standard (I know you haven't done it for that reason).
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Originally Posted by JamboRST

thanks for educating me
not a problem mate!
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I think a lot of the problem is how the boost comes in, whether you're running a small or large turbo to be honest....it's amazing the difference a well mapped car can drive compared to one of the same power but mapped differently. 300bhp+ is always going to be hard work to put down easily in an rs turbo, does depend what you want the car for (track/road/qtr mile etc etc) as to how you want your power delivery. My old engine at 250bhp was nothing like as bad as the majority of people thought it would be with regards wheelspinning, did depend how you drove it as to how it put the power down though. My new engine when i put a bigger turbo on it should be up round 300 so will just have to see what happpens and make alteration and improvements as i see necessary.
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Originally Posted by morph
not a problem mate!
cheers so basically to reduce wheelspin u put a turbo to big for ur spec so its a lag monster and u dont see full boost to 4k rpm,am i gettin that right??


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