how mutch power and which chip?
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how mutch power and which chip?
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a 1,6er turbo ke jet with cossie 2wd turbo @ 14psi, grs evo intercooler, alu rad, 2,5" omp exhaust, chip´d. are 230hp possible with this setup? what something i need for 230hp?
what is the better chip, the bayjoo stage 1 from burton or the evolutionchip?
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a 1,6er turbo ke jet with cossie 2wd turbo @ 14psi, grs evo intercooler, alu rad, 2,5" omp exhaust, chip´d. are 230hp possible with this setup? what something i need for 230hp?
what is the better chip, the bayjoo stage 1 from burton or the evolutionchip?
thanx for awnser
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23-25psi or thereabouts! better to run a safe 18 psi and be happy with near to 200bhp and then get the car indo managed when funds allow.
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You can have 260 or even 300bhp but how long do you think the accuracy of the metering head will be? device that was designed to take less than 11psi and you will need to be using
23-25psi or thereabouts! better to run a safe 18 psi and be happy with near to 200bhp and then get the car indo managed when funds allow.
23-25psi or thereabouts! better to run a safe 18 psi and be happy with near to 200bhp and then get the car indo managed when funds allow.
i was runnin 214@wheels,well above 230 flywheel fig with 17psi of boost,why u would need to run 23-25psi is beyond me
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my car is running 227bhp on standard injection and its given the same ish power figure on a few rolling roads, all i've done is use a ahmed chip, hybrid turbo and a chargecooler and its at 22psi
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I had a 1900 american tall block, cosworth fuel pump, stage 3 big valve head by chd, kent cvh 35cam, unlimited boost chip (which is pretty much what they all do) drilled airbox, stage 3 turbo with cossy compressor wheel by cr turbos, 14psi of boost, got it set up by msd and they reconed it was leaning off at about 190bhp, they dropped the boost down to 14psi and they advised it was pushing a strong 180bhp. Some metering heads will flow the fuel but I wouldnt advise it imo, get gotech mfi on it with the injector manifold from jam and you could hit that bhp figure with no hedaches
hope that helps matey
hope that helps matey
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Turbo
Chargecooler
227bhp
My old one
Stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished)
Newman cam, solid lifters
Piper vernier
wire ringed block
Lowered compression(7.5:1)
ARP conrod Bolts
AVA ecu with 7000rpm limiter
AVA modified fuel system
AVA high flow tubular manifold
T28 turbo + 360 bearing
Reshaped cosworth front pipe
AVA Large capacity intercooler
Magnex exhaust
Modified airbox
AP 4 paddle clutch
231 - 240bhp
Looks like i spent all that money for nothing
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Cheapest/easiest option is to fit a 5th injector, this will take a lot of the strain off the metering unit and give you a small amount of fuel mapping control.
ie: Metering unit fuels for up to say 12psi (random figure) and then 5th injector provides mapable fuelling for anything over that.
ie: Metering unit fuels for up to say 12psi (random figure) and then 5th injector provides mapable fuelling for anything over that.
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your be lucky to get 190 at the fly with just them mods
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Chip
Turbo
Chargecooler
227bhp
My old one
Stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished)
Newman cam, solid lifters
Piper vernier
wire ringed block
Lowered compression(7.5:1)
ARP conrod Bolts
AVA ecu with 7000rpm limiter
AVA modified fuel system
AVA high flow tubular manifold
T28 turbo + 360 bearing
Reshaped cosworth front pipe
AVA Large capacity intercooler
Magnex exhaust
Modified airbox
AP 4 paddle clutch
231 - 240bhp
Looks like i spent all that money for nothing
Chip
Turbo
Chargecooler
227bhp
My old one
Stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished)
Newman cam, solid lifters
Piper vernier
wire ringed block
Lowered compression(7.5:1)
ARP conrod Bolts
AVA ecu with 7000rpm limiter
AVA modified fuel system
AVA high flow tubular manifold
T28 turbo + 360 bearing
Reshaped cosworth front pipe
AVA Large capacity intercooler
Magnex exhaust
Modified airbox
AP 4 paddle clutch
231 - 240bhp
Looks like i spent all that money for nothing
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shed also ran 265bhp@wheels on a metering head
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hhhhm ok,my cars:-88 spec mfi
stage 1 genuine superchipped
s/s turbo oil feed
k&n induction kit
-31 actuator
2.5 inch exhaust
bailey dump valve
i estimate that the car runs a good strong 170bhp.the turbo spools up at just over 2k and pulls strong through the rev range without any problems.i have purchased a sytec mini bullet fuel filter and a bosch 0542 fuel pump but not yet fitted as am on a long time project.i would suggest gotech mfi from jamsport with the mf2 injector if you realistically want 2 run over 200bhp as mfi is sh*t!mine starts like a bag of shit when cold.but once warm is lovely.although a cheaper mod is magnecpr leads,grp a coil and a good set of plugs,if u want reliable.spend the money and get management,thats what im going to do.
good luck everyone
stage 1 genuine superchipped
s/s turbo oil feed
k&n induction kit
-31 actuator
2.5 inch exhaust
bailey dump valve
i estimate that the car runs a good strong 170bhp.the turbo spools up at just over 2k and pulls strong through the rev range without any problems.i have purchased a sytec mini bullet fuel filter and a bosch 0542 fuel pump but not yet fitted as am on a long time project.i would suggest gotech mfi from jamsport with the mf2 injector if you realistically want 2 run over 200bhp as mfi is sh*t!mine starts like a bag of shit when cold.but once warm is lovely.although a cheaper mod is magnecpr leads,grp a coil and a good set of plugs,if u want reliable.spend the money and get management,thats what im going to do.
good luck everyone
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Going by previous threads you only either need to run 10psi or get it chipped and run 10psi to get 180 - 200bhp on a standard car.
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Pmsl at some of the bhp figures bein banded about in this thread! I don't need to start an argument with anyone about their figures, all i'll say is ain't quite as easy as all that to get 'genuine' figures, 200bhp ain't just a chip and boost hike away! Soo many of these false/misguided claims are the reasons rst's get renowned for being slow beantins!
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i agree.200bhp in an RST is not an easy task,but its quite achievable.i wanted to get 230bhp from mine with similar torque.after chatting to a motorsport/rally guy where i buy my parts,he reckoned the fastest ones he ever went in were around 200bhp.he said he used to have a customer,who had a lovely rs @ 200bhp,came in one day,said wanted 240bhp money no object,and after he put all the parts on he hated it.torquesteer all the time and wheelspininng to shit.so im going to get to 200bhp and go from there.
IMO for reliable 200bhp u need:-
chip,ind kit,exhaust system,-31 actuator,uprated head gasket,cam.15-16psi an that may only get u 2 190-195 bhp and thats without the things u 4get,like new brakes 2 stop u,better suspension to handle the power,and your clutch/gearbox wont last long.your gonna be straining your conrods and pistons after 220 so if ur batterin it all the time its not gonna last.
and that little lot above will set u back bout 3k an i no il have forgot loadsa things.just to point out to all the people claiming silly figures with fuck all on their car.at least ive got most of the above to achieve my 200bhp lol
IMO for reliable 200bhp u need:-
chip,ind kit,exhaust system,-31 actuator,uprated head gasket,cam.15-16psi an that may only get u 2 190-195 bhp and thats without the things u 4get,like new brakes 2 stop u,better suspension to handle the power,and your clutch/gearbox wont last long.your gonna be straining your conrods and pistons after 220 so if ur batterin it all the time its not gonna last.
and that little lot above will set u back bout 3k an i no il have forgot loadsa things.just to point out to all the people claiming silly figures with fuck all on their car.at least ive got most of the above to achieve my 200bhp lol
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