Kevin_Mc

where is the best place to pick one of these up? the tall block ones

sorry if this is classed as a wanted post but i'm after one and don't know where to begin looking

mk3matt

i amthinmking about getting one of these at some point too.

-beefy-

iTrader: (6)

go for a 2.0 zvh , far eaiser to source , more displacment , cheaper


and most of all stronger


beef

kidsRS

iTrader: (6)

Vulcan engines told me there prone for cracking in turbo form?

-beefy-

iTrader: (6)

fucking bollocks mate ,

i blew countless cvh motors ,beofre i went to zvh ,

drop me a pm if your wanting info

let me guess , vulcan said they could build you a strong 1900 ????


beef

JamboRS

think he means the 1900 mate and is replyin to topic starter and not u....i think lol

SWITCHBLADE

iTrader: (5)

im running an american 1.9 tall block engine from specialised engines, this was built back around 1998/99. i bought it from my mate, who got it built originally by them, and had it dropped into mine so i know the history of it very well. im currently running it on gotech management and its knocking out around 260-270bhp at 1.3bar and ive never had a problem with it, neither did my mate. i suppose its still low milage for the amount of years its been built ( less than 20k ) but its done me well, all i know it needs is a rear crank seal which is no biggy.

your not going to want to run more bhp and torque than i am through one to be fair but the 1.9 from the right place does have its uses still if you want an alternative to a 1.6 or a zvh. it all comes down to what your going to use it for.

i admit im going 2.0 zvh but thats only because i wanted an engine with steel rods and forged pistons, and for the money, this can be done alot cheaper going the zvh route than me rebuilding the tall block which was my prefered option.

you can contact specialised engines and euro engines who both use the american tall block, i spoke at lenght with euro engines about buying just a new fully built bottom end with steel rods and a forged piston set up and they were very helpful, i was scared off by specailised as ive heard alot of horror storys over the last 5 years or so about their workmanship taking a turn for the worst and the fact ian quoted me Ł1200 just to supply me steel rods lol.

dave.

Matt Evans

I had a specialised 1900 bottom end in my track car, with subtle mods (nothing too extreme), it made 240bhp at 15psi and when i sold it, had done 10,000 + miles on track and was as good as gold. Regular set ups by Jamsport (once a year) kept it running at its best, and to the casual observer, it looked like a standard cvh turbo engine in the bay.

Bear in mind this was back in 2001 - it was strong money back then, and ZVH engines were only just becoming popular.

If i was building one today, id be inclined to build a proper ZVH with forged pistons and steel rods, probably for less than the 1.9's cost nowadays.

-beefy-

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ooops my bad lol

but imho your still better off going the zvh route nowadays ,


beef

Oranoco

To be honest I would opt for well built 1600cc CVH unit over both a 1900CVH or ZVH. If you're going to have the hassle of dropping the Zetec bottom in make it count and get the most out of the nice head as well.

Problem with ZVH's is getting the head to flow properly so the power/torque doesn't evaporate after 5.5krpm.

Turbocabbie

I agree with Oranoco its got to be CVH or Zetec.

If your doing the block you may as well use the better head imho

rstel1

+2

full zetec or stick with cvh

Karlos G

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+3

Elvis

iTrader: (1)

My wifes car xr3 is running a 1900cvh turbo'd. not had any problems with it and runs sweet as a nut.

B16CVH

Bombproof CVH or full Zetec, why restrict a 2.0L zetec with a 1.6 head, a STD zetec head will flow much more than a highly worked CVH one. But im a lover of the CVH so i would do that

bad boy rs

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zvh for me, had one in my s2 and loved it loads of torque

Kevin_Mc

just by looking at the block how can you tell if its a 1900 one?

I won't be able to compare 1600 with 1900 side by side so i'm looking for distinguishing markings, numbers etc.

vroooom ptssssh

Go ZVH kev! wul youngs 276@wheels without realy too much bother sais something for me!

G2RSR

the zetec heads not that great when standard most ive seen is 300 on a standard one the power drops off at 5500 rpm unless you go big valve then take into account it costs twice as much to port and double the cost for cams

Kevin_Mc

didn't know his was running that sort of power. Will need to give him a text

is a ZVH build not fairly costly to do right?

Turbocabbie

Luca's zetec does 400hp which says something louder for me!

Both the ZVH and the Zetec cost a great deal of money and effort to achieve the power that wul young and Luca have in a reliable manner, as its not just the engine you have to consider its the gearbox, drive shafts etc. and other bits.

wul young is a clever bloke with clear direction, but his car is substantially reworked and I would think he would state it took as much effort as it did bother, great car though

The fact remains that the standard CVH head flows far less than the standard zetec head as such the only possible time it makes sence to remove the 16 valve head is if you have an amazing high performance CVH head allready, if this is not the case you should start with the best available choice which is the 16 valve head.