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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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hi just wondering what the story is with this all the other quick shifts ive seen are alot more pricey than this one lookin to buy quickshift soon, would this kit get rid of the play in my linkage aswell thanks in advance
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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That looks like a pile of crap, im sure the more expensive ones arent just a spacer........

And no it won't get rid of your slack linkage.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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perfect cheers for that wasnt sure on that think ill just go and buy one of they b+m ones
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That looks like the Rally Design item I bought years back for my S2. Price is similar and holds same bits inside.

SafeChav Have you tried one of these?
Mine definately got rid of the sloppiness in gear changing and shortened the shift. Felt a lot more positive and when I took it out when the car was for sale and refitted another Mk4 item, it took me ages to get used to a standard stick as everything seemed in the wrong place.

jimmylaud If you're on a budget and can fit the kit yourself (only minimal work needed: remove whole gearshift system, then drill & pin your stick to accept the plate (stick length needs to be extended: hence the drill & pin bit)) then it's a worthwhile mod. If you have the money ot spend on a B&M kit, then get that.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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ok thanks for that shawn ill see how my funds go and take it from there
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Here's a pic of mine all fitted. The plate, bolts and nuts are covered in wax-oil type protectant. The gearstick gets extended inside the plastic cover.



In the ebay link you can see the instructions. The bottom photo in the instructions shows where you cut around the outer casing of the gearstick, then lengthen it (it has an inner and outer tube). You then drill & roll-pin it to hold it in that new length. The bolts are for attaching the whole lot together as the old bolts will be too short to accept the spacer.

Just to add: make sure you have a mk4 gearstick fitted. My car was an early D plate and had a mk3 gearstick fitted. I had to buy a 2nd-hand mk4 assembly as the plate does not sit in the cover the same due ot the difference in the gearbox gate set-up.
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sounds like a bit of a bodge tbh if you need to extend the gearstick etc

i recommend the B&M quickshift although it is very expensive
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rs shawn, as far as im aware slopnyness in the stick can only ever occur from the universal joint at the front end that goes onto the selector shaft.

I myself haven't used a short shifter though no.......
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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sounds like a bit of a bodge tbh if you need to extend the gearstick etc
Not at all. It is a modification to allow for the thickness of the spacer. The stick is made up of an inner and outer. All you are doing is extending the outer part by about 40mm (I think) then re-pinning it in place. If you can make a new longer gearstick with the two balljoints on the end to use with the spacer then go ahead Dave.

For the price of the kit is a very worthwhile addition if you don't want to buy a B&M item. I had mine on the car for two years and never had a problem with it. Gear change was precise and smooth and a lot more solid than before...which was stirring porridge in comparison.
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Simple physics it just raises the pivot point making the throw shorter...

Rally Design product sold by Matt Lewis

Will work if you can be bothered
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Just make one yourself IMO the puma/Escort linkage is the best i have felt and used. EVEN compared to the B&M or any other type of linkage.

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Jano_OddKidd Pics and how 2 would be helpful.
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Jano_OddKidd Pics and how 2 would be helpful.
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by rs shawn
Jano_OddKidd Pics and how 2 would be helpful.
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Have look about then
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Any chance of a helping hand toward a correct page to look at ??
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His website maybe shawn ??

www.oddkiddcreations.co.uk

Just a guess from me
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Well unless its in the forum somewhere (have to register before looking around), it isn't on there.
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Yes it is on the forum
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Have look about then
Tried to find it on ya homepage but couldnt find anything about the Puma-shift conversion...
Could u pls put a link here or somethin?

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This is what I found on the forum reference fitting this mod:
Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Well you need Ł40 and supply me a good std linkage and also a Puma linkage.
I dont really wanna tell whats exactly involved cos i feel cheated and raped
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Parts needed:-
2x Ford Mk4 linkages
1x puma linkage
1x steering colum

Cut it all about and stick it back together thats it..
Thanks for the help, pics and advice.....
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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B+M then attack your U/J.
drill out standard bushes and replace with cartridge bearinds and m6 (I think)
bolts= no slop,no play and the best shift possible.

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Just found details at

www.zetechinside.com
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Grahams mods refer to the U/J end if your on about that one ?

http://www.zetecinside.com/xr2/gearbox.htm#linkage
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Them mods done to the knuckle are pointless.. Within X amount of time it will be sloppy again.


Hence why i use a steering coloum in my coversion
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How much then and which steering rack do you require and which puma rack?
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
This is what I found on the forum reference fitting this mod:
Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Well you need Ł40 and supply me a good std linkage and also a Puma linkage.
I dont really wanna tell whats exactly involved cos i feel cheated and raped
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Parts needed:-
2x Ford Mk4 linkages
1x puma linkage
1x steering colum

Cut it all about and stick it back together thats it..
Thanks for the help, pics and advice.....
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I feel cheated and raped
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
I feel cheated and raped
How can you feel that way? You haven't told us what is involved..yet.
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Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd
Parts needed:-
2x Ford Mk4 linkages
1x puma linkage
1x steering colum

Cut it all about and stick it back together thats it..
fucking steering colum, wtf that about.
pics and details im thinking
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not fussed on pics, how much and whats needed and where to send it?
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Originally Posted by StephenC
not fussed on pics, how much and whats needed and where to send it?
i second that
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Regarding the UJ, I simply laid mine on the bench, gave it a tap on the ends of the pins to tighten them and now it feels as good as new and has done for the last 4-5 years since I refitted it. Why make it more complicated than it needs to be?

You just need to make sure you don't over-tighten it.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Regarding the UJ, I simply laid mine on the bench, gave it a tap on the ends of the pins to tighten them and now it feels as good as new and has done for the last 4-5 years since I refitted it. Why make it more complicated than it needs to be?

You just need to make sure you don't over-tighten it.


Depends how far gone it is i suppose
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So have any pics of the Puma conversion appeared anywhere yet ??
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
So have any pics of the Puma conversion appeared anywhere yet ??
Im not seeing any pictures, unless weve both gone blind?!
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nope no pics. i can take one of the selector from inside the car, but cant see what help that would be . And i deffo cant jack it up at the mo.


To feel the difference you would need to sit inthe driver seat and change gear for yourself. or ask the people who had had it done for them already

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We just want to get an idea of what bits from what your meant to use and a general idea of what it involves
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