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Old 23-04-2006, 07:30 PM
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HIYA GUYS!

I GOT AN ESCORT COS WITH A PADDLE CLUTCH AND I AM STARTING TO STRUGGLE GETTING IT GEAR SOMETIMES ANYBODY GOT ANY IDEAS ON WHY? I AM NOT SURE IF IT IS GEARBOX.CLUTCH OR RACHET ON ITS WAY TO COSSI HEAVEN?? MANY THANKS. PAUL
Old 23-04-2006, 07:41 PM
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how long has the clutch been in the car ? paddle clutches dont last all that long
Old 24-04-2006, 07:59 PM
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BEEN IN CAR ABOUT 2 YEARS BUT I DONT DRIVE THE CAR MUCH AND DONT DRIVE IT THAT HARD SO I AM IN TWO MINDS TO GET A STANDARD CLUTCH INSTEAD. ITS A SMALL TURBO AND 290BHP.
Old 25-04-2006, 09:31 AM
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well i read that a paddle will only do about 3-400 miles. but check the clutch ratchet. just pull the cable from the bulk head. if the cable comes away from the bulk head the ratchet is ok! make sure the release arm on the side of the box is returning fully to. failing thata it might be a box problem.

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Originally Posted by rsdene
well i read that a paddle will only do about 3-400 miles. but check the clutch ratchet. just pull the cable from the bulk head. if the cable comes away from the bulk head the ratchet is ok! make sure the release arm on the side of the box is returning fully to. failing thata it might be a box problem.

good luck
3-400 miles??? No way!
The 6 paddle clutch has been in my car 3 years now and done numerous trackdays without a hint of any problem. Have you changed the oil in the box lately?
Old 25-04-2006, 12:08 PM
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I have a similar problem in my Mk3 Fiesta. My CTS gearbox was new last June, and has almost done 4,000 miles, with an AP 4 paddle clutch. From the beginning it was a bit sticky going into gear, and hasn't improved. I've fully rebuilt the gear linkage with all new parts from Ford, use the fully synthetic oil CTS recommended, have carried out the manual adjust clutch pedal mod as recommended by AP, and it just doesn't shift slickly. It's killing my times...went to Brunters two weeks ago and could only manage a 7.3 0-60 and 15.03 quarter I just can't get the car to perform to its potential. 230bhp in a Fiesta should mean sub 6.5 seconds with ease!
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Did you keep the Ford plate or use the Alcon one?

I had mine fitted keeping the Ford one.
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well i read that a paddle will only do about 3-400 miles. but check the clutch ratchet. just pull the cable from the bulk head. if the cable comes away from the bulk head the ratchet is ok! make sure the release arm on the side of the box is returning fully to. failing thata it might be a box problem.

good luck
3-400 miles??? No way!
The 6 paddle clutch has been in my car 3 years now and done numerous trackdays without a hint of any problem. Have you changed the oil in the box lately?
well i just going on infomation i read on here all talk bullshit then
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Are you sure you didn't miss a 0 off and mean to type 3-4000?
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Are you sure you didn't miss a 0 off and mean to type 3-4000?
na when i done a search on here about a clutch, people we're not to get a alcon as they only last 3000 miles. i brought one anyway. awesome clutch
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NO HAVENT CHECKED OIL TO BE HONEST. BUT THE CLUTCH STILL SEEMS TO OKAY I THINK, IT PULLS HARD ON BOOST AND WITH NO SLIP WHATSO EVER. NORMAL LITTLE SHUDDER NOW AND AGAIN ON PULL OFF. ITS THE ACTUALL PUTTING INTO GEAR THAT GETS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES? SOUND STRANGE DONT IT??
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Originally Posted by 3001paulh
NO HAVENT CHECKED OIL TO BE HONEST. BUT THE CLUTCH STILL SEEMS TO OKAY I THINK, IT PULLS HARD ON BOOST AND WITH NO SLIP WHATSO EVER. NORMAL LITTLE SHUDDER NOW AND AGAIN ON PULL OFF. ITS THE ACTUALL PUTTING INTO GEAR THAT GETS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES? SOUND STRANGE DONT IT??
When I first got my car (6 years ago) it was a bitch to get into 1st and 2nd, moreso when cold. Changed the oil to the correct one and it made a vast improvement. So I'd try changing the oil as your first port of call.

Do you have a quickshift fitted perchance?
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NO JUST STANDARD. WHAT OIL DID YOU USE?
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Originally Posted by 3001paulh
NO JUST STANDARD. WHAT OIL DID YOU USE?
The oil recommended in the Owner's Handbook...

Transfer box - meeting the spec of SQM-2C 9010-A
Transmission - meeting the spec of ESD-M2C 186-A
Old 29-04-2006, 04:01 PM
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My paddle clutch lasted 15K in a fiesta turbo
Old 02-05-2006, 07:15 PM
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Ive had this. Ive had it checked out by 3 people.... 1 said it will need a new clutch....

2 said it was fine, nothing wrong with it and not as bad as other they have had to drive with....

ESCORT COSSY gearboxes are meant to be a bit harsh to handle to power... (said by a well known mechanic i was introduced to).
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Originally Posted by G1EN
Ive had this. Ive had it checked out by 3 people.... 1 said it will need a new clutch....

2 said it was fine, nothing wrong with it and not as bad as other they have had to drive with....

ESCORT COSSY gearboxes are meant to be a bit harsh to handle to power... (said by a well known mechanic i was introduced to).
THATS GOOD NEWS THEN!! MIGHT JUST WAIT UNTIL EITHER BOX OR CLUTCH GIVES IN AT LEAST I WILL FIND OUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER EH??
Old 03-05-2006, 04:11 PM
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As above, change box oil (do you even know when this was last done)

BUT its more than likely, just MT75 syndrome, mine is pretty good I have to say but I have heard of losts of issues with 1st and 2nd.

Oh and I have had 2x lots of fresh proper Ford oil through my box one to flush and one which is still in there..
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iv got this problem and under boost hard boost it stinks think that would be my clutch right what shall iget ap or alcon etc etc
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hiya guys!! good news i replaced the oil and all is good.it is a lot smoother than normal so i guess it takes a good few miles just to ware in.thanks for the advice!!!
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best i go get some gearbox oil then....and get that changed and see if it helps mine.
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hi,have you still got the rubber gaitor on the clutch arm on gearbox .mine was difficult to get gears and found the gaitor was getting traped between clutch arm and gearbox which i only found when fitting new clutch cable when old one snapped
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