Attended my first RWYB. launch techniques?
competed in my first drag meet at york on sunday.
i managed a best of 15.1 at 98 mph, i was quite happy with this until i saw the twating novas running 13's all day long.
it seemed to me that if i could get off the line better i would be in the 14's easy, are you better off with 15 inch rims as apposed to my 17,s i have on now?
any tips are appreciated. i need to show the f*****g novas how to go on
i managed a best of 15.1 at 98 mph, i was quite happy with this until i saw the twating novas running 13's all day long.
it seemed to me that if i could get off the line better i would be in the 14's easy, are you better off with 15 inch rims as apposed to my 17,s i have on now?
any tips are appreciated. i need to show the f*****g novas how to go on
You need to find the right balance between power and technique. Also your suspension has alot to do with it. It's best to just practice and practice until you find out what is best for you and your car.
13 second FWD car is a quick car.
13 second FWD car is a quick car.
know what u mean mate...what was your launching technique like? how hard where you revving and then lifting the clutch up?
We ran a ERST at the pod who's best time was 15.1 @ 99mph IIRC...running approx 230hp however it was his first ever time launching and first ever time at the quarter! he couldnt launch it right and was rolling off the line then flooring it...think he was concerned about breaking his g/box even though its a stage 2 bernie box lol...that plus the fact he looked high didnt help LOL...he was being FAR too lenient with the launches but once rolling it was rapid! spinning into 3rd gear!
think the best way to launch (that i have found in my turbo) is keep revving to 2500-3000rpm and keep dabbing the throttle so your holding 0psi boost instead of vacuum...then let the clutch up...as the clutch is coming up your increasing the throttle so your riding the clutch a bit while accelerating....
with the above technique i have beaten many faster more powerful cars off the line no probs.....am in second within 2-3 seconds!!
give it a go mate
bassboy
We ran a ERST at the pod who's best time was 15.1 @ 99mph IIRC...running approx 230hp however it was his first ever time launching and first ever time at the quarter! he couldnt launch it right and was rolling off the line then flooring it...think he was concerned about breaking his g/box even though its a stage 2 bernie box lol...that plus the fact he looked high didnt help LOL...he was being FAR too lenient with the launches but once rolling it was rapid! spinning into 3rd gear!
think the best way to launch (that i have found in my turbo) is keep revving to 2500-3000rpm and keep dabbing the throttle so your holding 0psi boost instead of vacuum...then let the clutch up...as the clutch is coming up your increasing the throttle so your riding the clutch a bit while accelerating....
with the above technique i have beaten many faster more powerful cars off the line no probs.....am in second within 2-3 seconds!!
give it a go mate
bassboy
Originally Posted by bassboy
know what u mean mate...what was your launching technique like? how hard where you revving and then lifting the clutch up?
We ran a ERST at the pod who's best time was 15.1 @ 99mph IIRC...running approx 230hp however it was his first ever time launching and first ever time at the quarter! he couldnt launch it right and was rolling off the line then flooring it...think he was concerned about breaking his g/box even though its a stage 2 bernie box lol...that plus the fact he looked high didnt help LOL...he was being FAR too lenient with the launches but once rolling it was rapid! spinning into 3rd gear!
think the best way to launch (that i have found in my turbo) is keep revving to 2500-3000rpm and keep dabbing the throttle so your holding 0psi boost instead of vacuum...then let the clutch up...as the clutch is coming up your increasing the throttle so your riding the clutch a bit while accelerating....
with the above technique i have beaten many faster more powerful cars off the line no probs.....am in second within 2-3 seconds!!
give it a go mate
bassboy
We ran a ERST at the pod who's best time was 15.1 @ 99mph IIRC...running approx 230hp however it was his first ever time launching and first ever time at the quarter! he couldnt launch it right and was rolling off the line then flooring it...think he was concerned about breaking his g/box even though its a stage 2 bernie box lol...that plus the fact he looked high didnt help LOL...he was being FAR too lenient with the launches but once rolling it was rapid! spinning into 3rd gear!
think the best way to launch (that i have found in my turbo) is keep revving to 2500-3000rpm and keep dabbing the throttle so your holding 0psi boost instead of vacuum...then let the clutch up...as the clutch is coming up your increasing the throttle so your riding the clutch a bit while accelerating....
with the above technique i have beaten many faster more powerful cars off the line no probs.....am in second within 2-3 seconds!!
give it a go mate
bassboy
But i have a plan, today i have fitted my in car boost kit, with it turned right down i can launch with 12 to 14 psi so i have some traction in second then pop it into third whilst spinning the bleed valve to 20+ psi.
Easyer said than done eh! Is there a solonoid on the market for a electronic two stage boost control?
thanks for advice
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unless you can get hold of a boost controller which works off an on and off switch then there is no fookin way you'll have time to be playing with a bleed valve, just practice your launching if you have coilovers suspension then jack up the rears and harden them up or just harden if your suspension adjustable, what front tyres are youi using i went from running eagle f1 ds3 to toyo poxyes tr1 there was a huge difference in grip with my new engine and suspension setup and smaller front wheels i am hopein for the high 12s
and higher ternimal speed
and higher ternimal speed
Originally Posted by turboboss
unless you can get hold of a boost controller which works off an on and off switch then there is no fookin way you'll have time to be playing with a bleed valve, just practice your launching if you have coilovers suspension then jack up the rears and harden them up or just harden if your suspension adjustable, what front tyres are youi using i went from running eagle f1 ds3 to toyo poxyes tr1 there was a huge difference in grip with my new engine and suspension setup and smaller front wheels i am hopein for the high 12s
and higher ternimal speed
and higher ternimal speedI was running on hancook's
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you will accelerate slower on 17's, and yes you can use the amal valve as a two stage boost control power eng did this on my series 1 for use in the wet/dry i have a copy of how to do it ill try and dig it out for ya!
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HANSEN
i done a 13.3 @113 still had problems with traction bloody fwd
and slipping paddle clutch its only done 800 miles
will be sorted for next time i'm down there, 16" wheels, semi-slick tyres, locked rear suspension, fiesta frenzy ultimate rs turbo clutch and more power
i done a 13.3 @113 still had problems with traction bloody fwd
and slipping paddle clutch its only done 800 miles
will be sorted for next time i'm down there, 16" wheels, semi-slick tyres, locked rear suspension, fiesta frenzy ultimate rs turbo clutch and more power
Originally Posted by turboboss
HANSEN
i done a 13.3 @113 still had problems with traction bloody fwd
and slipping paddle clutch its only done 800 miles
will be sorted for next time i'm down there, 16" wheels, semi-slick tyres, locked rear suspension, fiesta frenzy ultimate rs turbo clutch and more power 
i done a 13.3 @113 still had problems with traction bloody fwd
and slipping paddle clutch its only done 800 miles
will be sorted for next time i'm down there, 16" wheels, semi-slick tyres, locked rear suspension, fiesta frenzy ultimate rs turbo clutch and more power 
Damn thats fast
Originally Posted by winston
i was at york on sunday m8 was yours the s2 with the bling engine bay . so u tickleing it off the line but looked pretty quick once u got going

Originally Posted by Hansenturbo
Originally Posted by turboboss
HANSEN
i done a 13.3 @113 still had problems with traction bloody fwd
and slipping paddle clutch its only done 800 miles
will be sorted for next time i'm down there, 16" wheels, semi-slick tyres, locked rear suspension, fiesta frenzy ultimate rs turbo clutch and more power 
i done a 13.3 @113 still had problems with traction bloody fwd
and slipping paddle clutch its only done 800 miles
will be sorted for next time i'm down there, 16" wheels, semi-slick tyres, locked rear suspension, fiesta frenzy ultimate rs turbo clutch and more power 
Damn thats fast

Seb, this??
fuck knows how good it is.
D.I.Y 2 STAGE BOOST
Why pay Ł40 for a 2 stage boost kit when you can make it yourself for under Ł5? All you need to do for the 2 stage boost is it interrupt the signal from the Amal valve to the ECU, and then the boost will get lowered by the ECU.
Your cars chip must support an Amal valve and all three hoses must be connected up for this to work as well. So if you are using a bleed valve it wont work!
Heres whats needed and how to do it.
1 x switch, length of insulated wire, 2 x junction blocks
Cut into one of the wires that runs to the Amal valve, you decide which one and where to cut into it, it doesnt matter.
Add the new wire to the cut you have made and join it by using the junction blocks or soldering it if you like.
Feed the wires through the bulkhead of the car.
Add the wires to your switch and position the switch where you want it in the car.
When the circuit is broken by flicking the switch, you should find that the boost level will drop. When the circuit is joined the boost should go back to its normal level. Best to check it out by using a boost gauge so you know what boost level you are running on low and high boost. I find this method is ideal for motorway cruising on long journeys or if you are driving in the wet.
fuck knows how good it is.
D.I.Y 2 STAGE BOOST
Why pay Ł40 for a 2 stage boost kit when you can make it yourself for under Ł5? All you need to do for the 2 stage boost is it interrupt the signal from the Amal valve to the ECU, and then the boost will get lowered by the ECU.
Your cars chip must support an Amal valve and all three hoses must be connected up for this to work as well. So if you are using a bleed valve it wont work!
Heres whats needed and how to do it.
1 x switch, length of insulated wire, 2 x junction blocks
Cut into one of the wires that runs to the Amal valve, you decide which one and where to cut into it, it doesnt matter.
Add the new wire to the cut you have made and join it by using the junction blocks or soldering it if you like.
Feed the wires through the bulkhead of the car.
Add the wires to your switch and position the switch where you want it in the car.
When the circuit is broken by flicking the switch, you should find that the boost level will drop. When the circuit is joined the boost should go back to its normal level. Best to check it out by using a boost gauge so you know what boost level you are running on low and high boost. I find this method is ideal for motorway cruising on long journeys or if you are driving in the wet.
Originally Posted by ballin
Seb, this??
fuck knows how good it is.
D.I.Y 2 STAGE BOOST
Why pay Ł40 for a 2 stage boost kit when you can make it yourself for under Ł5? All you need to do for the 2 stage boost is it interrupt the signal from the Amal valve to the ECU, and then the boost will get lowered by the ECU.
Your cars chip must support an Amal valve and all three hoses must be connected up for this to work as well. So if you are using a bleed valve it wont work!
Heres whats needed and how to do it.
1 x switch, length of insulated wire, 2 x junction blocks
Cut into one of the wires that runs to the Amal valve, you decide which one and where to cut into it, it doesnt matter.
Add the new wire to the cut you have made and join it by using the junction blocks or soldering it if you like.
Feed the wires through the bulkhead of the car.
Add the wires to your switch and position the switch where you want it in the car.
When the circuit is broken by flicking the switch, you should find that the boost level will drop. When the circuit is joined the boost should go back to its normal level. Best to check it out by using a boost gauge so you know what boost level you are running on low and high boost. I find this method is ideal for motorway cruising on long journeys or if you are driving in the wet.
fuck knows how good it is.
D.I.Y 2 STAGE BOOST
Why pay Ł40 for a 2 stage boost kit when you can make it yourself for under Ł5? All you need to do for the 2 stage boost is it interrupt the signal from the Amal valve to the ECU, and then the boost will get lowered by the ECU.
Your cars chip must support an Amal valve and all three hoses must be connected up for this to work as well. So if you are using a bleed valve it wont work!
Heres whats needed and how to do it.
1 x switch, length of insulated wire, 2 x junction blocks
Cut into one of the wires that runs to the Amal valve, you decide which one and where to cut into it, it doesnt matter.
Add the new wire to the cut you have made and join it by using the junction blocks or soldering it if you like.
Feed the wires through the bulkhead of the car.
Add the wires to your switch and position the switch where you want it in the car.
When the circuit is broken by flicking the switch, you should find that the boost level will drop. When the circuit is joined the boost should go back to its normal level. Best to check it out by using a boost gauge so you know what boost level you are running on low and high boost. I find this method is ideal for motorway cruising on long journeys or if you are driving in the wet.
I have an in car bleed valve, the centre pipe (waste pipe) out of the bleed valve is going to be blocked off with a old idle control valve i had lying around. Then basically with the valve closed it will be running around 14 psi, open the valve by giving it 12 volts and i then have whatever my bleed valve is set to at the flick of a switch, hopefully around 23 psi when my boost pressure switch turns up in the post and i can rig a 5th injector up
Nobody needs to be running massive boost all the time, it will just fuck things quicker.
Originally Posted by turboboss
unless you can get hold of a boost controller which works off an on and off switch then there is no fookin way you'll have time to be playing with a bleed valve, just practice your launching if you have coilovers suspension then jack up the rears and harden them up or just harden if your suspension adjustable, what front tyres are youi using i went from running eagle f1 ds3 to toyo poxyes tr1 there was a huge difference in grip with my new engine and suspension setup and smaller front wheels i am hopein for the high 12s
and higher ternimal speed
and higher ternimal speed
problem sorted
raident red i wasnt running my car as its in a thousand pieces
i was with a mate who runs a 20l fiesta si its a black one with black team dynamics rims he run is quickest time 0f 15.7 hes been trying for ages to break into 15s but he dosent have to worry about chewing boxes up . if ur there next time m8 come over and have a chat
i was with a mate who runs a 20l fiesta si its a black one with black team dynamics rims he run is quickest time 0f 15.7 hes been trying for ages to break into 15s but he dosent have to worry about chewing boxes up . if ur there next time m8 come over and have a chat
Originally Posted by winston
raident red i wasnt running my car as its in a thousand pieces
i was with a mate who runs a 20l fiesta si its a black one with black team dynamics rims he run is quickest time 0f 15.7 hes been trying for ages to break into 15s but he dosent have to worry about chewing boxes up . if ur there next time m8 come over and have a chat

i was with a mate who runs a 20l fiesta si its a black one with black team dynamics rims he run is quickest time 0f 15.7 hes been trying for ages to break into 15s but he dosent have to worry about chewing boxes up . if ur there next time m8 come over and have a chat

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Originally Posted by turboboss
unless you can get hold of a boost controller which works off an on and off switch then there is no fookin way you'll have time to be playing with a bleed valve, just practice your launching if you have coilovers suspension then jack up the rears and harden them up or just harden if your suspension adjustable, what front tyres are youi using i went from running eagle f1 ds3 to toyo poxyes tr1 there was a huge difference in grip with my new engine and suspension setup and smaller front wheels i am hopein for the high 12s
and higher ternimal speed
and higher ternimal speed
problem sorted
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hansen i was Surprised at my times at central day i was doing 14s best of the day then was a 14.09 but i was chuffed with that now beacuse i can get in the 13s and every run at redline rumble was in the 13s with or without nitrous i now think that 14s are slow which they are Defiantly not on my third forth run i went up against a 550bhp supra and beat it so its not all about power but to think of it i have never seen a supra put down a good time apart from the that 1200bhp supar from that tuning company in scotland just get the car setup for drag and practice,practice
Originally Posted by turboboss
hansen i was Surprised at my times at central day i was doing 14s best of the day then was a 14.09 but i was chuffed with that now beacuse i can get in the 13s and every run at redline rumble was in the 13s with or without nitrous i now think that 14s are slow which they are Defiantly not on my third forth run i went up against a 550bhp supra and beat it so its not all about power but to think of it i have never seen a supra put down a good time apart from the that 1200bhp supar from that tuning company in scotland just get the car setup for drag and practice,practice


What time did you get with out the gas m8 ?i have only done two 1/4mile runs and they were both 13.8@110mph
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i did 13.7 @ 110 im will have to get one of fiesta frenzy ultimate rs tubo clutches because my helix paddle clutch slips when using nitrous
the way i see it with say 250bhp and a good launch there is no reason why times should'nt be Consistently in the 13s or 300+ shite launch 13s if you've got the power can always play catch up and get good times
the way i see it with say 250bhp and a good launch there is no reason why times should'nt be Consistently in the 13s or 300+ shite launch 13s if you've got the power can always play catch up and get good times
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