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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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why carnt people drive properly on the motorway.
hogging the outside and middle lane and braking for shits and giggles, fucking pisses me right off.
they should start a ad campain that says if you get undertaken move the fuck over wankers
rant over
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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It really pisses me off as well.

Why can't people just move over if there not overtaking? Then there are the idiots who don't want to overtake you and are happy to sit up your arse until you've overtaken and moved back in when there's another lane they could overtake you in

Fuck knows how professional drivers deal with it day in, day out.

Why do some people sit 3 foot away from your back bumper and think it's ok?

Then they change the law that you can't undertake but lane hogging was seen as acceptable
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Oh the great motorway debate,what a fucking nightmare!!!
I use it a lot to go from Swansea to Aberdeen and vice versa which is 600 miles near enough and what a shambles some drivers are.
Sticking behind lorries to save fuel
(mainly) BMW drivers who pull out THEN flash the indicator
Tailgating
Lane hogging
People who sit in a queue of traffic as SOON as they see the 800 yard sign for roadworks hence causing a 2 mile tailback when if they just read the signs to filter in one by one (like they do in Scotland) that problem is completely eliminated
People who let the missus drive
People who have one child and instantly buy a people carrier
People who believe their sat nav to the point where they completely forget ANYTHING they learnt regarding roundabouts
Most old folk
Some lorry drivers
ANYTHING to do with motorway patrol type vehicles (failed coppers)
40 mph roadworks for 20 miles with no one working on them
50 mph speed limits for bends a 1903 ford popular could have taken comfortably

Is that enough???
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It does my tits in!

Was in a car with an ex CID copper last Thursday and I was gob smacked that he was slagging off everyone's driving yet doing exactly the same or worse than every one else!

It does make driving for a living quite stressful at times.
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Oh the great motorway debate,what a fucking nightmare!!!
People who sit in a queue of traffic as SOON as they see the 800 yard sign for roadworks hence causing a 2 mile tailback when if they just read the signs to filter in one by one (like they do in Scotland) that problem is completely eliminated
Is that enough???
that just drives me potty that does

bunch of cunts believe that if you join the queue and WAIT then when you get to the other end, you will be going quicker rather than actually using the 800 yards of empty tarmac to progress 800 yards before merging in turn like it tells you to do and not slowing down at all

and then them same fuckers give you the evils when you are doing that and, in some cases, especially lorry driver cunts, they will pull out and block BOTH lanes just to stop you from progressing :Wall:
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As I said many times before.

ANPR cameras should be used, and if any car travels for too long, not in the leftmost lane when it is clear, there should be a sniper system attached and that motorist should be shot. Or at least banned from driving.

And also been saying for years. All thee stupid drink/drive adverts on TV are a waste of money. There needs to be a huge advertising campaign, especially during soaps etc educating drivers on basic tasks. Like not coming to a dead fucking stop on perfectly clear filter lanes. Like driving in the correct lane. Like how to use a roundabout etc etc. Not coming to a dead stop for absolutely no reason at give way junctions.

But no, that would be too sensible and might improve road safety. That's the last thing the government want !
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that just drives me potty that does

bunch of cunts believe that if you join the queue and WAIT then when you get to the other end, you will be going quicker rather than actually using the 800 yards of empty tarmac to progress 800 yards before merging in turn like it tells you to do and not slowing down at all

and then them same fuckers give you the evils when you are doing that and, in some cases, especially lorry driver cunts, they will pull out and block BOTH lanes just to stop you from progressing :Wall:

Not sure if I agree or disagree here, when an exit goes 2-1 on a roundabout, I won't let anyone in that's came in off the right lane, lets say the exit is you want is nigh on straight over, IMO you should be in the left lane to go straight on, and the right lane to carry on to the next exit.

Luckily I don't do any motorway driving, can't remember the last time I did. Really don't know how full time drivers manage it with some of the cunts on the road.
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All those things make me want to pack up truck driving
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All those things make me want to pack up truck driving
Same here mate.

Got fuck all to fall back on though.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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is the proposed 80 mph limit coming in next year ? just googled it couldn't find definative answer!
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is the proposed 80 mph limit coming in next year ? just googled it couldn't find definative answer!
hasn't that been on the cards for years but never actually happens?
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
Not sure if I agree or disagree here, when an exit goes 2-1 on a roundabout, I won't let anyone in that's came in off the right lane, lets say the exit is you want is nigh on straight over, IMO you should be in the left lane to go straight on, and the right lane to carry on to the next exit.

Luckily I don't do any motorway driving, can't remember the last time I did. Really don't know how full time drivers manage it with some of the cunts on the road.
but this isn't about going into a filter lane to turn and then cutting in front of the uy who wants to go straight right at the end

it's about driving along a straight bit of motorway and when the roadworks are 2 miels away, everyone decides to sit in the 2 miles of traffic in the lane that's going to be open in 2 miles rather than use 3 lanes of tarmac for 2 miles and then filter in turn to the open lane

you therefore only have 0.66666 miles worth of traffic as opposed to sitting in a 2 mile tailback, even better, if the guy who decides to sit in the 2 mile tailback at the start of the 2 miles and travel at 0.5 mph for 2 miles, then tha'ts their tought shit if you then continue to use the open carriageway to travel the next 2 miles at 70 mph and then join at the end

i had this happen to me ages ago and there were 3 lorries that decided that they were going to sit in the 3 lanes of the M1 until everyone else just waited behiond them
after a few minnutes of obvious being pricks, i decide that there was no way i was going to sit behind them so i found a way around and shot off down the road, and when i got to the "obstruction" it was plain sailing to merge at 50 mph and continue past the 50 yards of roadworks and then on my way as usual while these cunts were still sitting still 2 miles back up the road and cunting everyone else off behind them
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but this isn't about going into a filter lane to turn and then cutting in front of the uy who wants to go straight right at the end

it's about driving along a straight bit of motorway and when the roadworks are 2 miels away, everyone decides to sit in the 2 miles of traffic in the lane that's going to be open in 2 miles rather than use 3 lanes of tarmac for 2 miles and then filter in turn to the open lane

you therefore only have 0.66666 miles worth of traffic as opposed to sitting in a 2 mile tailback, even better, if the guy who decides to sit in the 2 mile tailback at the start of the 2 miles and travel at 0.5 mph for 2 miles, then tha'ts their tought shit if you then continue to use the open carriageway to travel the next 2 miles at 70 mph and then join at the end

i had this happen to me ages ago and there were 3 lorries that decided that they were going to sit in the 3 lanes of the M1 until everyone else just waited behiond them
after a few minnutes of obvious being pricks, i decide that there was no way i was going to sit behind them so i found a way around and shot off down the road, and when i got to the "obstruction" it was plain sailing to merge at 50 mph and continue past the 50 yards of roadworks and then on my way as usual while these cunts were still sitting still 2 miles back up the road and cunting everyone else off behind them
totally disagree, the reason there is 2 miles of queueing is because of people like you not wanting to filter across into the correct lane while the traffic is all still flowing and rather push in at the very last minute causing people to have to slow or stop to let you in, thus causing the 2 miles in the first place, if everyone simply filtered in before leaving it to the last second then there would be no queueing at all. I too block the lane, as it gets me, and everyone in front of me through quicker, and the inconsiderate twats behind can simply fight it out afterwards.

even worse is when the newer part of the A13 meets the older section in dagenham, goresbrook, and people actually get out of the main carriageway into the oncoming slip road to jump 10-20 cars up the road and then filter back on again, thats just being cuntish
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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The problem is actually a lack of being able to filter that causes the jams when there are road works which reduce lane width.

If people could actually filter without breaking harshly because they can't match speeds it wouldn't be a problem.

Every morning on the M6 between 4 and corley services this happens.. I simply filter in a little earlier (matching speed and not breaking) and then move into lane two just in time for all the 'last of the late breaker' types to fuck up the traffic and stop it in lane 3. I can get half way to corley before I feel the need to get back into lane 3.
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totally disagree, the reason there is 2 miles of queueing is because of people like you not wanting to filter across into the correct lane while the traffic is all still flowing and rather push in at the very last minute causing people to have to slow or stop to let you in, thus causing the 2 miles in the first place, if everyone simply filtered in before leaving it to the last second then there would be no queueing at all. I too block the lane, as it gets me, and everyone in front of me through quicker, and the inconsiderate twats behind can simply fight it out afterwards.

even worse is when the newer part of the A13 meets the older section in dagenham, goresbrook, and people actually get out of the main carriageway into the oncoming slip road to jump 10-20 cars up the road and then filter back on again, thats just being cuntish
theres 2 or 3 lanes for a reason, to aid traffic flow for people to merge in turn as said. its not up to you to block lanes to fuck it all up because you cant use the road properly.
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Your going to upset someone for jumping the queue so you might as well upset the people at the front of it I say

Oh and most wagon drivers are arseholes that should only be allowed to travel at night in the inside lane ...end of story
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And most car drivers are arseholes that shouldn't be allowed to hog the middle lane and should only drive at night.

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Totally missed my point there cosevo, I filtered in at 50 mph, didn't need to brake, simply lifted off until is saw an adequate gap to slot into and then carried on

If you wish to sit in miles of traffic then that's your choice, but sitting in the middle of the road thinking you are doing the right thing by blocking the road is just inconvinencing everyone else behind you because you don't know how to participate in motorway driving
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As long as you are not inconvinencing me when I am going along the road I've got. I problem with anyone's driving
Last night people were trying to cut in on the way to Westfield, fuck them cunts, I didn't let them in no matter how much they tried to bully me, if they hit me its their fault and they eventually realise that
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if you filter in without making any other cars have to slow down or brake then thats how it should be, im on about those that run down the outside lanes to the point that they are like 2 metres from where the lane ends, they then come to a halt and gradually nudge until someone in the flowing correct lane has to stop to let them in, and when everyone does it, the flowing lane is forced to stop every other car to let one of these people in which is what causes the queue in the first place, the poeple sitting in the queue are the ones that filtered in safely with plenty of time.
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Originally Posted by dojj
that just drives me potty that does

bunch of cunts believe that if you join the queue and WAIT then when you get to the other end, you will be going quicker rather than actually using the 800 yards of empty tarmac to progress 800 yards before merging in turn like it tells you to do and not slowing down at all

and then them same fuckers give you the evils when you are doing that and, in some cases, especially lorry driver cunts, they will pull out and block BOTH lanes just to stop you from progressing :Wall:
Dojj why dont you go into a truck stop and tell the truck drivers in there they are cunts, i would be interested to know how you would pull a chair leg out of your arse.
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I am guilty of blocking the lane off and the reason why I do it, dick head car drivers getting to the very end and pushing in, just because they are at the end they act as if its thier god given right to just pull in where there is no gap and this causes more people to stop and slow it all down even further, as well as dangerous and also road rage kicks in with some dick heads.

So do I carry on and have to stop start constantly and fight with car drivers or do I block it making it safer, move at a more constant speed and make people avoid dangerous manoeuvres? Nah, fuck you I'm blocking it as I can't e arsed with tossers throwing the cars in front of me where there is no gap.
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Some easy solutions to all this, and I do around 30k miles a year at the moment.

Lane discipline, observation, consideration. Do all those and the motorways would run a lot smoother.

Would like to see HGV's banned from overtaking between 7am - 7pm or similar, I know there are certain situations where it's unavoidable, but I recently sat behind 2 fuel tankers for 13 miles on the A1, having a drag race at the same speed. What's the point?? You're all limited to 56mph or less these days.
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Ban hgv's fr over taking? Fucking lol!
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Works on the continent.

Also works on a stretch of the M42 in peak times, so what's the issue?
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You do that all the time, abnormal load limited to 40 mph on motor way 35 on duel carriageway. Hit a hill and down to 20-15 mph. Even in restricted zones wagons still over take, many deliveries are timed and the knock on effect would be out of control.

Then you have legal driving and working hours being hours coming into it.

I know in Germany wagons are allowed to over take when ever, they just have a restriction on abnormal loads moving at night only.
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Like I said, I know in certain circumstances it's unavoidable.
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Wagons side by side for miles is a piss take though. If a wagons a tiny bit faster than me and goes to over take ill back off till he is past, no one else bothers to do it though.
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That's what i'm getting at, nearly all the drivers I see never, ever back off to let a slightly faster vehicle past, like it's illegal to touch the brakes or lift.

While i'm on, compulsory re-testing every 5 years for all drivers.
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Kind of agree with the retesting, but more an assessment than test. But them its the while cost thing. We already have to pay for digital tacho cards and medicals (from 45 onwards) and now introducing cpc which is moving costs up for firms.

It all comes down to the cost. Plus it would be shit to fail a test then not be able to work or afford a retest.
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I mean ALL drivers, self included. Especially Audi drivers....lol.
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Audi drivers are the new BMW drivers.

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I drive for a living and some of the things folk do is unreal to the point i wish i was a traffic cop as i would rip the fucking keys from the ignition in there car once stopped i tell you. Some utter utter cunts out there with no clue about fuckall.


Even last week i was heading home from work in my car down the A1 from Edinburgh, traffic was heavy and both lanes were averaging 65-70 mph due to volume, im in inside lane roughly 50 yards from car in from doing 65mph, this black corsa is just passing by in the outside lane and no more but decides she is taking the slip road we are only like 20 yards from, she starts indicating in and looking over her shoulder at me, i have a car right up my arse that is actually taking slip road off and i did back off and lighty start braking as she really wanted to pull over (now in my head yes im thinking you can fuck right off you had miles and miles to get into that lane to pull off but as per stupid dorris in a corsa....) now no way am i slamming the brakes on to let the fat speccy cow in so i was being cautious for my own car but in honesty im pissing myself at her at the thought well its your own fault lol yep she was giving me pelters and the vile look but hey come on i put my interior light on to show her i think she is clearly , is it me fuck sake if you clearly live that town why the fucking hell are you on the outside lane overtaking everyone when you are approaching your slip road ..... total stupidity and she was even more stupid to near enough do the same thing at the next slip road a mile up the road as i sat and watched her...... people like that are just an accident waiting to happen.

It does get to the point now that i hate fucking driving for my income now.
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Wagons side by side for miles is a piss take though. If a wagons a tiny bit faster than me and goes to over take ill back off till he is past, no one else bothers to do it though.



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is it me fuck sake if you clearly live that town why the fucking hell are you on the outside lane overtaking everyone when you are approaching your slip road ..... total stupidity and she was even more stupid to near enough do the same thing at the next slip road a mile up the road as i sat and watched her...... people like that are just an accident waiting to happen.
whats even more retarded is that you get at LEAST half mile warning then a 3,2,1 indicator on dual carriageways and at LEAST 1 mile warning on motorways.

How can someone not manage to change lane in that time???

Fucking retards.
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there was a bit on the m11 where lorries couldn't overtake between 7am and 7pm

didn't stop them though
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the thing that does my tits in is when theres an abnormal load taking up 2 lanes - in peak times! and when highway maintenance decide to close 2 lanes in peak times to fill in a pot hole that imo should been done at night! rant over
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the thing that does my tits in is when theres an abnormal load taking up 2 lanes - in peak times! and when highway maintenance decide to close 2 lanes in peak times to fill in a pot hole that imo should been done at night! rant over
I move abnormal loads and we can't move at night on a load of routes, the police have even pulled us in and refused us to move due to it getting dark once
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Not sure if I agree or disagree here, when an exit goes 2-1 on a roundabout, I won't let anyone in that's came in off the right lane, lets say the exit is you want is nigh on straight over, IMO you should be in the left lane to go straight on, and the right lane to carry on to the next exit.

Quite a few of the roundabouts around here are marked as left hand lane to take the 1st exit, right hand lane to take 2nd exit (straight over) and 3rd, 4th, etc. The amount of people who dont read the road markings....
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