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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Default S2 Upgrades, whats the best beginner mods?

So I'm going to rebuild the car from top to bottom. So far its got

2.5" single box system
Polybushes all round
Uprated Shocks & springs
Uprated Waste Gate (would this mean my Turbo is uprated?)

The brakes and the engine are standard so I'm wondering whats the best route to go with upgrading them on a modest budget.

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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are you looking for more power or .... what sort of money do you want to spend ?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:49 AM
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Yeah, nothing major but a bit more BHP.

As for the budget, none in mind but I'd like to keep it reasonably small if possible.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 03:56 AM
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leave it standard, it won't break!
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 04:39 AM
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chip,actuator, air fillter, circa 35 bhp increase, and never touch it again
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BRAKES.
bailey breather just to eliminate future air leaks.
chpped ecu -31 actuator can all be done on a budget i got an ecu and actuator from ebay for Ł60!

front mount intercooler if youve got a few hundred quid to throw at it

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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tbh before even looking at the power and cosmetics, id get onto the brakes, nice set of 4 pots and meaty discs, then the suspension,tyres etc....
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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brakes i.e rear disc conversion -31 actuator if you haven't got 1 already chip and you should see around 160-170 bhp
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BRAKES.
bailey breather just to eliminate future air leaks.
chpped ecu -31 actuator can all be done on a budget i got an ecu and actuator from ebay for Ł60!

front mount intercooler if youve got a few hundred quid to throw at it
The actuator is upratred but I've no way of knowing what spec it is, I also have a Baily Oil Catch Tank but the exit pipe at the bottom isn't fed anywhere, it just breathes into the engine bay.

As for the Chip, which ECU holds it? The Galvanised one or the black plastic one?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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galvanised one, how much boost does it run mate?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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Also, with regards to brakes, would a Sierra GTE front & rear set up safice or is the Sierra front set up the same as the RS item?
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Originally Posted by chaffe
galvanised one, how much boost does it run mate?


Its been so long since I had a turbo I dont even know, 1.5 sound right?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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both are 260mm front discs mate, and rear discs arent nesesary on a fwd car that doesnt weigh much, imo.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dod RS
Its been so long since I had a turbo I dont even know, 1.5 sound right?
could be 15 psi? then it is chipped already! next time you are in a tall gear watch the gauge when you are on boost, see what it peaks and holds at.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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before any chip i would fit a decent intercooler as the standard one is crap and if your taking it to shows , most shows tend to be in the summer so one is needed...

chip/intercooler and -31 should see 180bhp with the right tuner but to be honest leave it with the standard cam as they drive nice at that spec and later to hit 200bhp if you fancy just add a stage 2 t3 turbo.

job done.... but remember at 180bhp t a genuine ford clutch is ok but when you get close to 200bhp an uprated one is needed and starts to take away the nice drive of the car.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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an oil, filter and timing belt is always a good start on any new second hand car
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Originally Posted by chaffe
an oil, filter and timing belt is always a good start on any new second hand car
then again a set up

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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aye, check the timing, co, any air leaks or missfires.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chaffe
aye, check the timing, co, any air leaks or missfires.
just saying if hes wondering what sort of power he has now might as well get it set up and put on the rollers with a reputable tuner they willalso tell him if he nees a cam belt if its needed as they most likely will give it a check efore reving the bollocks out of it after its set up least then he knows the power andand can get advice where to go next depending on how he wants it to drive and the sort of power he wants sorry bout the crap english lol
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Mongoose exhaust 2.5 inch bore, original airbox modified at the front for extra airflow with k&n panel filter, motorsport devolpments chip (i have one for sale if interested) or ahmed bayjoo, turbosystems chip, decent alloy intercooler airtec or radtech, grs etc then a set up personally i would leave it at that as you will have a nice 180-190bhp road car at around a bar of boost and if you want to more for that magical 200bhp just change the cam say to a newmans or upgrade to a stage 2 turbo, dont forget to upgrade your brakes and suspension, for suspension i would go no lower than 30mm and go with koni adjustables and brakes if you want bigger then go cossie disc conversion or if you want to stay standard size go for tarox or say ebc and some ferrodo dsp pads and braided hoses all round hope this helps m8

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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At the moment the car isnt road worthy, its solid but isnt running great, takes a long time to start, boosts at 4k and is dead as sand before that.

I'm completely out of my depth with this as I've been a Vauxhall for years and before when I had RSTs, I just drove them and no more. lol I dont even know what Boost is! lol

So, the engine spec list:

Service
Chip (if its not already)
Intercooler
then maybe a larger turbo?

Brakes:

As Cossies are hard to find here, anything else that could donate its stoppers?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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If you are going for a front mount get an msd 82 degree thermostat and uprated fan switch as alot of rst's suffer with very high temps as the coolers block airflow to the rads, brakes you can go for focus st, mondeo st, etc
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Originally Posted by Dod RS
At the moment the car isnt road worthy, its solid but isnt running great, takes a long time to start, boosts at 4k and is dead as sand before that.

I'm completely out of my depth with this as I've been a Vauxhall for years and before when I had RSTs, I just drove them and no more. lol I dont even know what Boost is! lol

So, the engine spec list:

Service
Chip (if its not already)
Intercooler
then maybe a larger turbo?

Brakes:

As Cossies are hard to find here, anything else that could donate its stoppers?
St 170 brakes also work mate but if o havin these issues as well would speak to a tuner tell the the sort of power you want with the sort of budget or willing to spend but sounds like your in need of a set up at least for the time bieng and you ma find it will bea lot better or put the larger intercooler,change the oil and filter,spark plugs your ht leads havent corroded as its common then if your confident with timing and carrying out a cambelt job then do so if not take it to the tuners and et your cambelt done and a set up there for you know its fuellng ok and what power your producing and its more reliable
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can the fueling be mapped on the k-jet? i thought it was set
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can the fueling be mapped on the k-jet? i thought it was set
yes mate its set lol but he will know its ok under load on the rollers throughout the rev range lol
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Originally Posted by craig rst kid
yes mate its set lol but he will know its ok under load on the rollers throughout the rev range lol
A check over by someone who knows what they are on about never hurts.
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Originally Posted by chaffe
A check over by someone who knows what they are on about never hurts.
lol yes mate when i got mine completed a full service including cambelt a couple of months later found i had developed a bad bit of piston slap and my crank was fooked due to it running lean at top end bit off the subject how much did your megasquirt efi cost as i will be gong efi ans i was looking into going for the gotech pro x later next year and wondered wht differences there are n price and perfrmance

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Originally Posted by Dod RS
At the moment the car isnt road worthy, its solid but isnt running great, takes a long time to start, boosts at 4k and is dead as sand before that.

I'm completely out of my depth with this as I've been a Vauxhall for years and before when I had RSTs, I just drove them and no more. lol I dont even know what Boost is! lol

So, the engine spec list:

Service
Chip (if its not already)
Intercooler
then maybe a larger turbo?

Brakes:

As Cossies are hard to find here, anything else that could donate its stoppers?
the first thing you need to do as you have admitted you are out of your depth with this is take it to a reputable tuner and get it fully checked over and setup in its current form as you dont want to risk something not being right and blowing it up. if your upto doing a service (plugs, leads, oil, cam belt if its needed or not known when last done)and can check the brakes are in good working order then do that and then get it on a trailer and to a decent tuner. loads of people on here with rs turbos will be able to advise you where to go and i wouldnt let distance put you off going to the right tuner rather than picking a local tuner just because he's local!

once its all running right, has mot and you'r able to drive it on the road then and only then should you look at upgrades. no point upgrading an engine that doesnt fucking run right in the first place!
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or save your money and buy second hand efi set up with chip and bieges injectors...

can make the same power and run alot better.....
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or save your money and buy second hand efi set up with chip and bieges injectors...

can make the same power and run alot better.....

and then get it setup so its running spot on.
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and that lol ... efi and a stage 2 turbo with standard cam would be a realy nice engine
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Originally Posted by craig rst kid
lol yes mate when i got mine completed a full service including cambelt a couple of months later found i had developed a bad bit of piston slap and my crank was fooked due to it running lean at top end bit off the subject how much did your megasquirt efi cost as i will be gong efi ans i was looking into going for the gotech pro x later next year and wondered wht differences there are n price and perfrmance
i paid 100 quid for a kit from the states and built it myself, but you can get a built one for around the 250 mark. All aftermarket programmable ecus are ten times better than k-jet IMO, it just gives you soo much more controll over everything, any size injectors, and turbo, boost, rev limmit, fuel economy, the list is endless. Do invest in a wideband AFR gauge though.
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Cheers folks. The mechanics side of it doesn't worry me but the Turbo thing is new to me. The engine runs fine but takes a lifflt effort to start, something a service, filters and HT leads will more than likely cure it.

I've been pricing Cosworth front discs and pads, a whopping €200 and thats without Calipars. Looks like I'll be checking under the sofa for loose change!
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I wouldent bother with anything if the car isnt running right. get it looked at and set up fist mate. where about you from ?
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The North West of Ireland, nearest Rolling Road is about 120 miles from me.
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Dont need a rolling road mate. just a good tuner. that would be my number one priorty. you wouldent belive how much diffrence a tune up can make.
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