do ford quote for

1. a 1995 rs2000 4x4

2. a 2000 mondeo st200

the reason i ask is ive just sold my rs2k and want to know how much of a difference there is between the 2 as i now want an st200.

thanks

 

Ignore what Ford quote. Most of the figures are done on engine dynos so bear no relevance to the real world.

For the ST200 you'll get 20-25 around town and up to 30 on a long steady run. If you cane it you'll get under 20 very easily.

I'd imagine high 20s to early 30s for the RS2K, but that's just a guess.

 

The mpg figures are derived on a dyno, the car that is, the test criteria demands this, but without wind resistance etc, and computer controlled driving for hours and hours.
They bear no relationship to actual in use mpg, as a rough rule look at urban as a average.
tabetha

 

Maybe from a Cougar, but you're not getting 40mpg from a 200

 

agreed, i think the cougar had essentially the ST24 engine so would get slightly better economy.
I know someone who went from a ST200 to a St220 and said his economy is now better than it was
the ST200 is pretty juicy and will get a good 5+mpg less than a RS200 imo.

 

TAlking from experience here and the 200 will return around 32 ona steady run at 75ish and around 25 - 26 around town.

Feel free to drop me a pm and I'll take you out and let you drive one of our 200's so that you can get a feel for one.

Jeff

 

To get the power out the 200 Ford had to wring the ECUs neck, so it's less fuel efficient than the 24.

I'd also leave the regular cat on and replace the precats with MSDS headers. Much better for power gains than the other way round.

And yes, I did misread your Cougar mpg comment Soz!

 

Averaged 28.5 in mine when I had it... mainly town driving and stop start stuff, sitting on dual carriageway at around 75ish would return 34mpg according to the computer. I was prepared for a best of 25mpg and was very surprised and impressed with the economy of my ST200.

How much you got to spend?


Cheers,
Grant

 

I never ever got 35! 30 on a long smooth run was the best I managed. Dunno if the Estate's extra bulk had something to do with the poor economy.

 

My estate is running with the MSDS headers and de cat pipe. Sounds nice but a pita when you have to crawl under it every year for the MOT!!!!!!!! Like Dan I have never seen 35 in any of the 200's I have had (that's 4) and the estate is averaging 27 at the moment and thats driving like miss daisy.

 

I was certainly surprised by the economy in mine, spec was pretty basic stuff too Full History, always run on V-Power Fuel, 76k miles, CAT-Back Mongoose and a K&N Panel Filter in standard airbox with cold air feed. I never really gave my car a hard time, most I ever wanted from it was the induction note at 2500-3000rpm and then after that I changed up.

Most of the journeys in mine were into and out of the town with the longest trip being to the gym and thats mainly through the town as well with a brief cruise at 50mph.. I re-set the computer and got the 28.5 average with that sort of usage.

I'm considering another one if/when the Civic goes as I actually miss my old car, it ticks so many boxes for relatively little cash its hard to ignore IMO.


Cheers,
Grant

 

A lot of car for the money agreed, but for me the performance in relation to the mpg was always a big issue. I've got a TDCi now, and it's easily as quick (if not quicker) in the real world and can double the mpg... I do miss the soundtrack though!

 

Cant comment on the question itself, but more power does not necessarily mean less mpg as some people seem to think. Ive owned many omega, 2.5's and 3.0's and the 3.0's were actually better on fuel. So many things to consider. I used to have a 2.5 vectra sri that could do 50 mpg on a run, no problem at all!

The problem with people quoting mpg figures is that some people try and work it out all wrong. They'll stick a tenner in when the light comes on the do x amount of miles and wait for the light to come on. thats just not the way to do it and the numbers can be way out. Only way to do it is fill it up, zero the trip, then re-fill when nearly empty and work it out properly.

 

That's what I did, until it became too depressing to see the truth (the trip computer was over optimistic too which didn't help)

 

But a full 206 tank would be about Ł40, and a full Cougar one (presuming it's similar to the Mondeo tank) would be Ł70!

 

not thinking of selling mate, the rs2000 4x4 is sold and now in lithuania

 

i do quite alot of motorway miles and i have kids so the extra room should be nice

im viewing one in portsmouth on sunday, 56kmiles

 

how many miles to atank does the st200 get on average.
i never got more than 260 from the rs2k 4x4

 

thats a very kind offer mate,
im going to look at one on sunday

 

The missus is only using hers for short town runs and is getting 280 to a tank whereas I am using my estate on longer runs and getting about 340 to a tank. Use this as a rough guide though as both of ours have some mods on them.

If you do get one and want a decat pipe let me know as i have a spare one sat in the shed at the moment. Could even deliver it to you!!!

Jeff

 

where abouts are you jeff?
quite intrested in the de-cat if i buy the car

 

nice one john, ive been told about the plastic impeller.

ill give it a good check over.

is there a way to tell if the one of the headgaskets has gone or due to go?

some one told me to blip the throttle and listen for a rattle or clicking noise

 

I did a bit of reading about these cars and the ST200 will have the metal water pump, it was only the early ST24 MK2 that had the plastic type.

The headgasket has a design flaw which can cause the tick tick when you blip the throttle, it wont cause the typical water mixing/mayo problems and the car can be driven without a problem.


Cheers,
Grant

 

Hi Mark,

I am in Sittingbourne, Kent so not that far from you really.

Feel free to give me a bell on 07590 578729 if you want to chat about 200's if you want some advise.

Jeff

 

The water pump issue is over-exaggerated, and seems to only affect the earlier cars. I can only presume that the later plastic impellers were made of tougher stuff..

My 2000 ST200 had plastic.

The 'dreaded tick' is common on V6 Mondeos. If it's the head gasket then it won't cause any harm in the short term, but it could render the block and head scrap if it's neglected. But mine had the 'tick', so when I broke it I took the heads off to check, and they were fine, so the tick was something else, most likely the exhaust manifold gasket.

 

the way you drive mark i would say your average mpg would be around 15-`18 mpg

 

afternoon young john!i am plodding along fella did you sort ya water leak ?
was it just a loose clip?

 

chop chop then stop fannying around and sort it lol!!

No probs fella!we wil sort out what day my man