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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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I have a bricklayer coming tomorrow to do some work for me. I've started off my extension wall and it's all laid out and have done the first few rows so all the door positions etc are already started and have laid my damp proof course. All he has to do is continue to build up the pattern. There are a few corners etc but it's fairly straight forward.

I have approx 75 blocks, 4 bags of cement and 3/4 yard bag of sand left.

Will he get through this in one day? How many blocks wld a typical brickie lay in a day. He's charging me £100 for the days work and my mate will be the labourer.

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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he should do i normally average 120 blocks a day tho if the weathers shit he wont be doing much
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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he should fly through them if hes any gud,a good labourer is a great bonus to any squad of brickys 100quid a day seems fair to me,thats what i would ask
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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just make sure his works not shit !
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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depending on the weather a good bricklayer should lay those plus some.
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Should get that done in a day easy.

Well providing the weather is kind, and no offence it also depends on your brick laying you have done.

There is nothing worse than picking up someone elses work, even if theres nothing wrong with it, sometimes it just doesnt go well if you dont do a job start to finish if you get what im saying.

I pay my 2 brickies and 1 labourer £500 a day, and thats all labour!!!
But they are bloody fast and very very good.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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id be worried that he seems to be very cheap. £100 a day?
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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id be worried that he seems to be very cheap. £100 a day?
could be one of them old boys, who takes his time, and only does it to get away from his old nagging misses
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
Should get that done in a day easy.

Well providing the weather is kind, and no offence it also depends on your brick laying you have done.

There is nothing worse than picking up someone elses work, even if theres nothing wrong with it, sometimes it just doesnt go well if you dont do a job start to finish if you get what im saying.

I pay my 2 brickies and 1 labourer £500 a day, and thats all labour!!!
But they are bloody fast and very very good.
Lee, how many bricks would you expect that 2+1 crew to lay in a day for that rate?
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
id be worried that he seems to be very cheap. £100 a day?
Seems fair to me, im a joiner, and at the moment i only intend to make £100 a day in the current climate. I d rather charge £100 a day and get the job than charge say £150 a day and not get the work.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Lee, how many bricks would you expect that 2+1 crew to lay in a day for that rate?
Not a straight foward answer really, depends a lot on the site and design!

As a rule

200 blocks a day

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1250-2000 bricks.

tho they have done 3000 before on a straight run.

to give an idea 10 blocks is about 1 m2
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shane
Seems fair to me, im a joiner, and at the moment i only intend to make £100 a day in the current climate. I d rather charge £100 a day and get the job than charge say £150 a day and not get the work.
you should really be aiming for £1000 a week matey, still lots of work out there.

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Thats not bad.

Means they should be able to do my 3 bed house in under a week and £2.5k?
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Thats not bad.

Means they should be able to do my 3 bed house in under a week and £2.5k?
No not really

We normaly price that sort of work as a job rather than a day rate to include materials etc

Id say a 3 bedder, your looking at about 10-15k (obviously a very rough guess here)

thats digging the footings (but not soil disposal cost) concreting the footings, over site, dpc and right up to plate level

also a 3 bedder has many corners!!!

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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shane
Seems fair to me, im a joiner, and at the moment i only intend to make £100 a day in the current climate. I d rather charge £100 a day and get the job than charge say £150 a day and not get the work.
im also a joiner and £150+ a day is were we aim for. a grand a week is still there for the taking. the most ive made on a day was £360 a couple of months ago but we can still average £200 a day over a week.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
im also a joiner and £150+ a day is were we aim for. a grand a week is still there for the taking. the most ive made on a day was £360 a couple of months ago but we can still average £200 a day over a week.
yeh as i said shane, dont devalue your self, the works still out there.

In fact im more busy now then ive ever been.

hit a new record on friday.

job lasted 7-5. Invoiced £1500 for the job, which was actuall a good price.

less materials and tax i took home £970

the job went so perfect it was unreal, love ones like that.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
id be worried that he seems to be very cheap. £100 a day?
Was exactly what i was thinking.
If i could get a brickie for that, i would be making £150 over the top of that and i would still be able to go out and do my own work....wow now theres a thought

seriously, thou, £100 a day is fcuk of cheap and think about it.......would you get out of bed for a oner
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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i had a mate of a mate do my dormer window as he is a carpenter. He did the whole dormer (5m x 3m) built and clad in plywood in two days and cost me £140 per day. I was very impressed. He recommended the bricklayer as he works with his brother and said his work is ok. It's a pretty simple job to be honest. All he has to do is carry on building up but it'll be good if he can get it finished in a day. The wall i've build is absolutely fine but i take my time and am quite slow. A professional shld get it finished in a fraction of the time it'd take me
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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100 pound a day 4 a brickie thats cheap no brickie gangs 2 & 1 400 to 500 a day lay loads a day a good job & face work
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notice all these people saying 100 per day is cheap are eithr down south or big citys,,,mate of mine has been on that near bristol for 3 years .. here in the north east there are so many sites at standstill loads of lads would come out for a 100 quid.,

personaly i wouldnt lift my arse from the blanket,,,,, but never say never lol

i have apprentices who would lay the 75 blocks in question by lunch, or they would be whiped and sacked on the spot lol

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Originally Posted by righthooker
notice all these people saying 100 per day is cheap are eithr down south or big citys,,,mate of mine has been on that near bristol for 3 years .. here in the north east there are so many sites at standstill loads of lads would come out for a 100 quid.,

personaly i wouldnt lift my arse from the blanket,,,,, but never say never lol

i have apprentices who would lay the 75 blocks in question by lunch, or they would be whiped and sacked on the spot lol
we are down south assured brickwork loads of work they are on every site i go on
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
Not a straight foward answer really, depends a lot on the site and design!

As a rule

200 blocks a day

or

1250-2000 bricks.

tho they have done 3000 before on a straight run.

to give an idea 10 blocks is about 1 m2
200 blocks a day for a 2 and 1 gang? Are you serious ? Before throwing the trowel in ( boom boom lol ) and going into business i used to lay anything between 3 and 6 hundred blocks a day on my own with a labourer! If thats all they are doing they arent worth 500 quid. The bricks amounts fine though but blockwork is where i made most money....11 quid a meter

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Same here though as righthooker. Lots out of work. IF i was still on the trowel id rather take 100 a day then fuck all....even though i havent worked for that since finished my apprenticeship 12 years ago....
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lee they dont no how to use a trowel then mate are they using a small tool
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lee they dont no how to use a trowel then mate are they using a small tool
I think they must be using a gauging trowel mate
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I think they must be using a gauging trowel mate
dont take the piss out of my trade poor poor plasterer
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Originally Posted by kellyalfie
dont take the piss out of my trade poor poor plasterer
Mate, theres no DODO's on the world and no poor plasterers either
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time are hard have to do a full week these days
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Originally Posted by kellyalfie
time are hard have to do a full week these days

to pay for all those parts you have, Greedy man
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
200 blocks a day for a 2 and 1 gang? Are you serious ? Before throwing the trowel in ( boom boom lol ) and going into business i used to lay anything between 3 and 6 hundred blocks a day on my own with a labourer! If thats all they are doing they arent worth 500 quid. The bricks amounts fine though but blockwork is where i made most money....11 quid a meter
sorry was tired made a typo. missed of the 1

i meant 1200.
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Originally Posted by geoffxr4
He's charging me £100 for the days work and my mate will be the labourer.
what is he polish!!!!!!!!!!!

you get what you payfor

but its good for you

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No - he's English but puts on a polish accent lol , only way they can get the work !!!!!
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my old man was a brickie and wouldnt get out of bed for less than a grand a week and that was over 10years ago
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Why not do the rest yourself?

Surely, if you can mix the cement correct, lay the foundation bricks, keeping everything straight, your onto a winner.........unless there is something I'm missing?
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Originally Posted by rocky_robin
Why not do the rest yourself?

Surely, if you can mix the cement correct, lay the foundation bricks, keeping everything straight, your onto a winner.........unless there is something I'm missing?

becuase there is a big differance between a good home DIY'er and a proper brick layer, for the sake of a couple of hundred quid, i know what i would be doing and i can lay bricks (in a fashion )
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
becuase there is a big differance between a good home DIY'er and a proper brick layer, for the sake of a couple of hundred quid, i know what i would be doing and i can lay bricks (in a fashion )
but hes already laid up to DPC,

As i said just hope its up to par, or its a night mare to "carry on" someelses work.
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I can do it myself but i have loads of other stuff to do as i'm doing a loft conversion / rear extension and i'm a bit slow with the blockwork and figure a pro can do it in a fraction of the time. He's maltese and didn't do too bad today i thought.

I had my mate there as labourer but he wanted to do it all himself and so i just let him get on with it whilst me and my mate worked on the roof. On his own he prob laid about 50 blocks i'd say so not particularily quick but then he was doing it all himself. i reckon it'll be up to full height in another day or two so for £200-300 i've got it finished and dont have to worry about it.

I dont think he's a proper bricklayer as he also does plastering, tiling etc. He's just an all rounder type guy but it's ok for me as it saves me doing it and it's not expensive. His workmanship seemed fine for what i need too.

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Originally Posted by geoffxr4
I can do it myself but i have loads of other stuff to do as i'm doing a loft conversion / rear extension and i'm a bit slow with the blockwork and figure a pro can do it in a fraction of the time. He's maltese and didn't do too bad today i thought.

I had my mate there as labourer but he wanted to do it all himself and so i just let him get on with it whilst me and my mate worked on the roof. On his own he prob laid about 50 blocks i'd say so not particularily quick but then he was doing it all himself. i reckon it'll be up to full height in another day or two so for £200-300 i've got it finished and dont have to worry about it.

I dont think he's a proper bricklayer as he also does plastering, tiling etc. He's just an all rounder type guy but it's ok for me as it saves me doing it and it's not expensive. His workmanship seemed fine for what i need too.
50 blocks 5m2 is that it brickies on site have to do 800 to 1000 bricks a day
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
you should really be aiming for £1000 a week matey, still lots of work out there.

dont devalue your self!

depends where you are in the country then, you have no chance of hitting anywhere near that in sheffield at the moment most big sites are at a stand still and most of the trades are taking massive cuts just to get the little jobs, like someone said rather take a little cut and get the job then be out of work
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proper trademens are finding it hard out their as well as the jobbers been in the trade 26 years not all rosey these days
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