My V reg puma 1.7 ground to a halt yesterday and after replacing the timing belt the ford dealer has told me that the 1st cylinder isnt firing so i need a complete engine replacement which will cost me £2500!

I've never been in this situation before, can anyone advise a course of action, should i get the engine replaced, or try and sell the car to someone who can do the work? Should it really cost me £2500, im a bit shell shocked at the moment and dont really know what to do

thanks for any advice

Andy

 

My initial thought would be either a re-con engine or search the scrappers for a 2nd hand unit with warranty.

Whats stopping the 1st cylinder from firing?

 

i wish i knew, they basically tell me to identify that they have to take the whole top of the engine off and that its next to impossible to get cylinders or whatever for puma's now so its better to just replace the whole engine rather than paying to try and replace a cylinder and then having it fail again.

 

There are a number of puma engines on ebay. They range for £500 to near a grand

 

Why not take the head off and replace the bent valves . fords cant be botherd with that sort of work. find a good local garage to do the work.



Dave

 

Thanks for your responses, im not a mechanic so i dont know if you can just replace the valves. If you are saying this is a good way to go then thanks alot for the advice!

 

Can anyone recommend someone in the chessington area in surrey who could do this for me?

 

make sure the bottom end is ok before you throw any cash at it. If thats gone get a new engine, cause it cant be rebuilt properly. If its just top end, get the bits off fleebay and find a decent mechanic and your sorted

 

Done a few of these with brocken cam belt they never damage the bottem end.

Could get the car pick up for you mate if you want me to do it



Dave

 

Its a main dealer thing...over price a old car so they dont have to bother doing it. They earn more doing servicing work than repairs such as that. There's no need to remove the head either to trace where the fault lays...a simple cylinder leak-down test (not a compression check..and also not a fluid block test..different things) should identify whats failed imo. As said else where I think, it sounds like just a bent valve tbh and maybe a damaged valve guide as well. Ive been meaning to change the missuses 1.7 Pumas belt now for around a year...I think you've just pushed me into doing it at last

 

Belt life i think is 100k


Dave

 

Belt life i think is 100k


Dave

 

Was originally 100K on a 1.7 (still is on 1.4 and 1.6) but it was changed to 5 years or 80K whichever comes 1st.

 

if its any good to you i have a brand new 1.7 head with valves fitted, still in the Ford box, £350. it cost over twice that + the vat.

 

thanks for all the replies

a mate of mine wants to have a go at doing this for me but asked if i would get the haynes manual for it as reference.

can someone confirm if there is a haynes? i havent been able to find it yet.

thanks alot

Andy

 

just found the haynes site and there is no puma manual can anyone suggest an alternative?

Andy

 

If he needs a manule I woodent trust him on a job like that

Dave.

 

The fiesta manual has lots of the same components, but not the 1.7 engine unfortunately as that was only ever put in the puma...

 

Hello
It's in the ford T.I.S manual

gives a detailed description of the zetec vct

 

but as i'm sure your well aware, those Ford TIS off ebay are technically illegal

 

Sound to me more like a bent valve then a knackered engine, worse case senario a snapped camshaft, cos thats happened to an engine i've stripped in the past when the belt went.

Ford dealership probably doesn't trust their own mechanics stripping down the head to change a valve

 

hi rebuilt my puma 1.7 engine went and drove it.. put my foot down the engine stopped .....found out it bent all the inlet valves.... the timing was correct.. checked several times ....is there a fault with the vct or control unit that does this ???????????????

 

Presently on 140k and going strong.
Ticking time bomb I think!

 

where is the car any independant garage should be more than capable to do this for you

 

bottom end will likely be fine.

ford qouting £2.5k means they cant be arsed to do it.

Although when they first came out they were designed as a "throw away" engine and hence you could not buy bottom end rebuild kits or bearings etc

 

This thread is 4 fucking years old!