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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Lets try this posting in the correct room mallarky

Right I got a program for downloading DATA from newsgroups (SuperNZB) and set it up with the default settings, just input my news server address username password etc, and the default port or 119

Now for the first few weeks this been working like a dream , nice fast downloading.
But then one day literaly working one day and the next speeds dropped from 3000KBPS to like 300KBPS

Emailed my news server to see if they had any problems and they said no, and asked for my isp addy which i supplied and they run a traceroute and "did not see any network congestions"
They also suggested I used the european address as nearer to me, which I did with no differencies

Next they suggested I used ports 23, 1818 or 8080
all which work as port 119 DID
I am now running all four ports and seen speeds up to a peak of 6000KBPS, BUT that has been achieved mainly on the other ports cause you can see the progress bars for each.
Also sometimes the 119 port comes up as stalled.

I cant figure using the same program with no changes as far as i know to my pc that one port suddenly stops working

Have spoken to my ISP and they are saying they dont restrict ANY ports.

But do say they "manage traffic" at peak times. (what do they do to "manage traffic ?)

But this isnt happening just at peak times either tho, cos I try not to download in peak times after being hit by a F U P once before, which just caused major headaches getting it lifted and getting my speeds back up to where they should be.

My ISP is Tiscali by the way
Was on the phone to some woman in INdia for half an hour trying to find anything out when she finally admits she doesnt understand what a port 119 is its not on her sheet and could I tell her .

Which actually I couldnt cos I aint sure exactly lol, but got the idea behind it at least, so also what exactly is a port just an outlet/inlet to from the net, which a program can choose to use, so in that case just how many ports can a connection have, or a pc.

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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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the answer is already there. as you just have to read what you just posted

But do say they "manage traffic" at peak times. (what do they do to "manage traffic ?)
that means: they see what you do, and they cut down your speed. easy as that. Most of the ISP does that allot, and usually excuses it with that they need the speed to the other user so they can surf the web with fast speed. and dont some user taking up bandwidth
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_86
the answer is already there. as you just have to read what you just posted

But do say they "manage traffic" at peak times. (what do they do to "manage traffic ?)
that means: they see what you do, and they cut down your speed. easy as that. Most of the ISP does that allot, and usually excuses it with that they need the speed to the other user so they can surf the web with fast speed. and dont some user taking up bandwidth
Thats what I kept asking that woman, and all she said is she couldnt tell me HOW they manage traffic, and I kept asking couldnt or wouldnt lol, thats when she actually asked what a port was

But she was confident it was only peak hours this is happening all the time.

Know they monitor and I have been carefull not to download in peak hours, out of peak i downloaded over 90GB in this last month

That is maybe more than normal (god I love these newsgroups pmsl) but never seen anything affect me out of peak hours before, but before I used to use torrents, know they work different but do still use ports surely, oh and she did say they restrict p2p , but newsgroups aint p2p are they, I may just be downloading a lot of big emails, at least there no uploading of the same ammounts

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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_86
the answer is already there. as you just have to read what you just posted

But do say they "manage traffic" at peak times. (what do they do to "manage traffic ?)
that means: they see what you do, and they cut down your speed. easy as that. Most of the ISP does that allot, and usually excuses it with that they need the speed to the other user so they can surf the web with fast speed. and dont some user taking up bandwidth
Thats what I kept asking that woman, and all she said is she couldnt tell me HOW they manage traffic, and I kept asking couldnt or wouldnt lol, thats when she actually asked what a port was

But she was confident it was only peak hours this is happening all the time.

Know they monitor and I have been carefull not to download in peak hours, out of peak i downloaded over 90GB in this last month

That is maybe more than normal (god I love these newsgroups pmsl) but never seen anything affect me out of peak hours before, but before I used to use torrents, know they work different but do still use ports surely, oh and she did say they restrict p2p , but newsgroups aint p2p are they, I may just be downloading a lot of big emails, at least there no uploading of the same ammounts

Steve
Hehe I have complained about it several times my self.

The p2p traffic have to start to encrypt their files as the the ISP then cant see the different if you are locking on a video at youtube or downloading files.
The news/scens group is ok as you get top speed all the time.

ftp servers is also great if you are running full encryption (yap news group are based on that)
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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Steve,

Your with Tiscali so your fucked mate 100%....I'm in the middle of switching from them as they say in the terms and conditions somewhere that they do not support any p2p/newsgroups and when your found will restrict the cunt outta you.... (also think not 100% but depending on how much you download 80GB seems to be the "oh we have noticed you and gonna cut your speeds like fuck" mark )

The only time i max my speed out is anything between 11pm-1am until 6am-10am but it changes week to week.

Also the same as you the first little while i was smashing it and downloaded something like 220-280GB the first month

Look it up on google mate


As a side note, how you doing bud?

Mart
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Your ISP is traffic shaping. Can you enable encrytion on the packets?
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt.A
Your ISP is traffic shaping. Can you enable encrytion on the packets?
Ye "Traffic Shaping" that been mentioned

Before I say wether I can "Encrpyt my Packets" could you tell me what traffic shapping is, oh and THEN how I encript my whatevers

Cheers

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Almost certainly you have been capped by the ISP. It doesn't matter what you are downloading, 90GB in a month is more than enough for there system to trigger a warning and your DL speeds to be capped. It won't just be peak time either, they will just whack it on permanent as ISPs hate people like you lol
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