£4750 1992-K Sapphire Cosworth in rare smokstone with raven leather needs of some tlc
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£4750 1992-K Sapphire Cosworth in rare smokstone with raven leather needs of some tlc
The car has been in storage for over 2 years i bought it with great intentions of doing the little bits and putting it back on the road..but i am now coming to terms with the fact i am never going to get round to it...the car needs paintwork/bodywork in places the paint has faded on the bootlid the rear passenger side wheel arch needs attention..the car is only 1 former keeper...not 10 like most of them..its covered 109000 miles i have old mots to back the mileage..theres no mot or tax..the engine and gearbox are fine drives great engine sounds lovely..has a stage one chip...and a stainless system fitted..the is a downside it was recorded in 1996 as a cat c.....£4750..cornwall..
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i havent been following the price of sapphires recently! i realised they were going up but hadnt realised that they had reached 5 grand for a Cat C 100k+ car that needs attention without MOT or TAX!
Car looks lovely however! shame it does need the work it does. The interior in particular looks really nice.
Car looks lovely however! shame it does need the work it does. The interior in particular looks really nice.
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i havent been following the price of sapphires recently! i realised they were going up but hadnt realised that they had reached 5 grand for a Cat C 100k+ car that needs attention without MOT or TAX!
Car looks lovely however! shame it does need the work it does. The interior in particular looks really nice.
Car looks lovely however! shame it does need the work it does. The interior in particular looks really nice.
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The way i look at is what i would have to pay for one all done bearing in mind most cosworths are on the register for damage its just people conveniently forget to mention it when there selling..lol they seem to make between £6000 to £8000......but all depends what been done to the car as you no..and as i mentioned other people want starship money like the one that sold on the autotrader the other week for...£12500.00
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Do you know it actually sold for 12.5k tho, or just the adds not on auto trader anymore?
Was it the rouse sport with the horrific wheels?
Was it the rouse sport with the horrific wheels?
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If I were you, id get in touch with the previous owner if possible and try and get some more background on the damage it sustained. They may have photos. CAT C doesnt mean that it has sustained structural damage, it might have been stripped and recovered without damage. You will be in a much better position if you can show/prove/describe to possible buyers the reason behind the car being on the register. Just my opinion though.
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I would say your asking price is quite fair.
Mileage and owners isnt the biggest factor these days, mainly condition etc.
As said cat c could be something really simple, history of it would defo help.
Mine is K plate, Nouveux Red, leather, air con, 18s etc, I would value that around £8k.
Same car with cat c I would say around £6k, so as said before fair asking price
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Mileage and owners isnt the biggest factor these days, mainly condition etc.
As said cat c could be something really simple, history of it would defo help.
Mine is K plate, Nouveux Red, leather, air con, 18s etc, I would value that around £8k.
Same car with cat c I would say around £6k, so as said before fair asking price
Good luck with the sale
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I would say your asking price is quite fair.
Mileage and owners isnt the biggest factor these days, mainly condition etc.
As said cat c could be something really simple, history of it would defo help.
Mine is K plate, Nouveux Red, leather, air con, 18s etc, I would value that around £8k.
Same car with cat c I would say around £6k, so as said before fair asking price
Good luck with the sale
Mileage and owners isnt the biggest factor these days, mainly condition etc.
As said cat c could be something really simple, history of it would defo help.
Mine is K plate, Nouveux Red, leather, air con, 18s etc, I would value that around £8k.
Same car with cat c I would say around £6k, so as said before fair asking price
Good luck with the sale
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No it was a 1992-k plate 4x4..in smokestone with cloth no leather...it had done 124k...did look a very nice car..i spat my coffee out when i saw the price..it was on there for about three days then disappeared
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I am seriously think about doing that....they are a good investment....in am min you are going to be able to name your price..because they are drying up quick...
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good luck with the sale. I think it may help with the sale if you was to put better pics of the car up, especially the problem areas. Just my 2 pence
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no worries...adivice is cheap....it on ebay £500 away from its reserve with 146 watchers and 2 days to go....i think everybody is going to regret buying one of this now because in couple of years they are going to be untouchable..my family has always had old fords and the only way the prices are going is skyward...people are a bit slow on the take because when there gone there gone..all the best
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no worries...adivice is cheap....it on ebay £500 away from its reserve with 146 watchers and 2 days to go....i think everybody is going to regret buying one of this now because in couple of years they are going to be untouchable..my family has always had old fords and the only way the prices are going is skyward...people are a bit slow on the take because when there gone there gone..all the best
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Would it not be a better option to strip it I'm sure it would get more money ??????? I know it's not the best in ways of another one bits the dust sort of thing but many people will be thinking a cat c is not good in what ever way you see it and secondly it looks like it could do with some cash spent on it all be it a useable cosworth tbh
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Would it not be a better option to strip it I'm sure it would get more money ??????? I know it's not the best in ways of another one bits the dust sort of thing but many people will be thinking a cat c is not good in what ever way you see it and secondly it looks like it could do with some cash spent on it all be it a useable cosworth tbh
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Sounds like good money in parts there
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to be honest if it dont make the money i want it will be booked into body and paint next year for new arch..and paint...chuck it in for mot don,t look like it needs for much..have it valeted..machined all over..and keep it...just thought somebody might enjoy a small project..as this is nothing to me dealt with much more than this in the past..and keep it..
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Ok,this could actually be the millionth time I've posted this!!!
Cat c DOES NOT MEAN ITS BEEN HIT ANY WORSE THAN A CAT D!!
It's entirely up to the assessor which cat it goes in,it could have had a scratch down the side could be a cat c but a cat d could have a bent shell or every panel kicked and smashed in its irrelevant.
Cat c is just an indicator not a conclusive set of points like say needing jigging,cat c,needing new rear 1/4,cat c,needs new screen,cat d honestly it's not down to any particular criteria,which in some ways I disagree with but that's that sadly.
Also cat c cars do NOT NECCESSARILY need a VIC check,vosa/dvla decide that (which you can check on the dvla website)and no van needs a VIC check either which again I find odd as a van could be stolen or rung as much as a car!!!!
Sorry for the rant!!!!
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Was the damage done in 1996? the car would of been worth a decent bit of money back then so must of been expensive whatever the damage. It would be best for the owner to put up pics of the damage and the repair or what it needed to be fixed. These cars unless dirty cheap or mint and under priced do not sell themselfs.
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[quote=vaughant;6125763]Ok,this could actually be the millionth time I've posted this!!!
Cat c DOES NOT MEAN ITS BEEN HIT ANY WORSE THAN A CAT D!!
It's entirely up to the assessor which cat it goes in,it could have had a scratch down the side could be a cat c but a cat d could have a bent shell or every panel kicked and smashed in its irrelevant.
Cat c is just an indicator not a conclusive set of points like say needing jigging,cat c,needing new rear 1/4,cat c,needs new screen,cat d honestly it's not down to any particular criteria,which in some ways I disagree with but that's that sadly.
Also cat c cars do NOT NECCESSARILY need a VIC check,vosa/dvla decide that (which you can check on the dvla website)and no van needs a VIC check either which again I find odd as a van could be stolen or rung as much as a car!!!!
Sorry for the rant!!!!
You are 100% right i worked for ford acciendent repair for four years..its is down to the mood of the assesor on the day...cat c does not bother me i have jigged and repaired some stuff that should of never been repaired but its down to the insurance company...
Cat c DOES NOT MEAN ITS BEEN HIT ANY WORSE THAN A CAT D!!
It's entirely up to the assessor which cat it goes in,it could have had a scratch down the side could be a cat c but a cat d could have a bent shell or every panel kicked and smashed in its irrelevant.
Cat c is just an indicator not a conclusive set of points like say needing jigging,cat c,needing new rear 1/4,cat c,needs new screen,cat d honestly it's not down to any particular criteria,which in some ways I disagree with but that's that sadly.
Also cat c cars do NOT NECCESSARILY need a VIC check,vosa/dvla decide that (which you can check on the dvla website)and no van needs a VIC check either which again I find odd as a van could be stolen or rung as much as a car!!!!
Sorry for the rant!!!!
You are 100% right i worked for ford acciendent repair for four years..its is down to the mood of the assesor on the day...cat c does not bother me i have jigged and repaired some stuff that should of never been repaired but its down to the insurance company...
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[quote=booner999;6125797]Was the damage done in 1996? the car would of been worth a decent bit of money back then so must of been expensive whatever the damage. It would be best for the owner to put up pics of the damage and the repair or what it needed to be fixed. These cars unless dirty cheap or mint and under priced do not sell themselfs.
What does it matter....it was recorded in 1996 the has only been one owner before him..the fact it was recorded....so what..its £4750..beer money...not £10 grand..it needs tidying there nothing wrong with it mechanicly..drives fine goes like shit of a shovel ..just needs cosmetics..if you don,t want it stop going on about it
What does it matter....it was recorded in 1996 the has only been one owner before him..the fact it was recorded....so what..its £4750..beer money...not £10 grand..it needs tidying there nothing wrong with it mechanicly..drives fine goes like shit of a shovel ..just needs cosmetics..if you don,t want it stop going on about it
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If you listen, people are trying to help you!!!
I know of no person who would buy a CAT C without knowning or seeing what the damage was unless it was stupidly cheap.
£4000 to you might be bear money but to someone else it is not. Buying the car is the cheap part, maintaining them is the expensive part.
Your advert needs more detail and better photos. No one is trying to have ago at you, just giving you advice!
I know of no person who would buy a CAT C without knowning or seeing what the damage was unless it was stupidly cheap.
£4000 to you might be bear money but to someone else it is not. Buying the car is the cheap part, maintaining them is the expensive part.
Your advert needs more detail and better photos. No one is trying to have ago at you, just giving you advice!
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If you listen, people are trying to help you!!!
I know of no person who would buy a CAT C without knowning or seeing what the damage was unless it was stupidly cheap.
£4000 to you might be bear money but to someone else it is not. Buying the car is the cheap part, maintaining them is the expensive part.
Your advert needs more detail and better photos. No one is trying to have ago at you, just giving you advice!
I know of no person who would buy a CAT C without knowning or seeing what the damage was unless it was stupidly cheap.
£4000 to you might be bear money but to someone else it is not. Buying the car is the cheap part, maintaining them is the expensive part.
Your advert needs more detail and better photos. No one is trying to have ago at you, just giving you advice!
A fair enough point but remember back in the late 90's these cars were worth less then than they are now,I had a mint moonstone with leather,fsh,chipped etc back then and couldn't shift it for £4000,ended up selling the good bits then letting it go to a breaker for £2500 which got me my money back.
A car like that would in theory be double that now say £8/9000 but book then wouldn't have even been £5/6k on it.
The cars passed 15 mots since then so my guess is if it was hit hard it's been repaired well as it would be rusted into the ground now if the repair were poor.
Remember in 1996 there was no VIC system and realistically if your car was written off it was entirely up to the buyer to investigate rather than a marked logbook of any kind,the cat c could even be a clerical error or even a later category from vosa/dvla post the new rules.
A mate of mine had a cat c mr2 back in the late 90's,pre VIC and the car is still doing the rounds with the owner oblivious to the fact,it was stolen recovered on the key,some loons drove it round the block,shit themselves and ran away,no actual damage just the owner didn't want the car back afterwards and that got cat c!!!!
Don't read into it too much guys,there's loads of reshelled/rung/totalled cossies out there with clean books that people drool over not half as tidy as this one or as honest but out of site out of mind eh?
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If you listen, people are trying to help you!!!
I know of no person who would buy a CAT C without knowning or seeing what the damage was unless it was stupidly cheap.
£4000 to you might be bear money but to someone else it is not. Buying the car is the cheap part, maintaining them is the expensive part.
Your advert needs more detail and better photos. No one is trying to have ago at you, just giving you advice!
I know of no person who would buy a CAT C without knowning or seeing what the damage was unless it was stupidly cheap.
£4000 to you might be bear money but to someone else it is not. Buying the car is the cheap part, maintaining them is the expensive part.
Your advert needs more detail and better photos. No one is trying to have ago at you, just giving you advice!
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Get some better photos up mate, honestly, these cars in the right light with the right kind of photos will sell themselfs... you will have to give more info on the CAT C though if you have it or know of any... Even if you take some detailed photos of the inner wings, strut tops, boot floor, arches and the lines of the car... just to give people piece of mind.
Loads of timewasters out there... had around ten people contact me on these kind of sites asking if I would sell the car, tell them the price, they agree to have it then never hear from them again. People dreaming about owning one of these cars, they want to but when it comes to putting money out, they bottle it.
Loads of timewasters out there... had around ten people contact me on these kind of sites asking if I would sell the car, tell them the price, they agree to have it then never hear from them again. People dreaming about owning one of these cars, they want to but when it comes to putting money out, they bottle it.