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Old 19-01-2014, 08:35 AM
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Default 2.0 Zetec turbo or hi reving 2.0 on throttle bodies

Need to decide between the two as I want a new engine for my track combo van. 1.6 RS turbo at the min.
Now I don't want a big boost hungry car that will be fast in a straight line as I want usable power to race with. And I would think 200-250 bhp will be plenty
Old 19-01-2014, 11:10 AM
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Easier to get that power with a turbo I would think.

Budget is a big factor.

Have a read of this, might point you in a direction.
https://passionford.com/forum/ford-e...onversion.html
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Budget is no problem, car will get whatever it wants, just don't want to build a engine with power that won't be usable or 100% reliable after some very hard use.
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200-250 will be expensive if you want to keep it N/A

High ish compression (8.5:1 ?), small turbo (T3) set would be a better option

There has been a few conversions like this running below 300 with great throttle response
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Yes 250 ish on a N/A would be in the region if six grand with dry sump etc, but I bet by the time You turbo a Zetec with management and steel bottom end for reliability I would of thought it would be just as much
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Or even shoe horn a civic type r engine in?
Old 19-01-2014, 12:02 PM
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A old mates Zetec

Well over 250bhp



And it cost a fortune

Go Turbo will be far cheaper

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Originally Posted by bobbob
Yes 250 ish on a N/A would be in the region if six grand with dry sump etc, but I bet by the time You turbo a Zetec with management and steel bottom end for reliability I would of thought it would be just as much
Standard frs lump will do that bhp
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Go Duratec, 250bhp will cost a fair chunk less than getting a Zetec to that level, Zetecs need a LOT of work.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
A old mates Zetec

Well over 250bhp



And it cost a fortune

Go Turbo will be far cheaper
Pre-trumpet injectors too, that is an awesome bit of kit! Any videos?
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i have a 2.1 zebec on jenveys as a drop in package for sale spec should be 220/230 bhp

2.1 zetec
arrow rods
high comp forged pistons
cylinder head developments head and kent cams
ashley manifold
jenvey 45mm throttle bodies
motorsport loom
omex 600
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Thanks all for the comments, just looking for different ideas. I don't buy secondhand engines as I build them my self and a friend does all the machine work. Thanks
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
Pre-trumpet injectors too, that is an awesome bit of kit! Any videos?
It was broken soon after and the engine was sold to someone in Germany
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That zetec on the TBs is Andrew Lindleys old engine isnt it? From his mk2 Orion. Used to go well that car.
I'd love to build a budget ZT to hit around 280bhp with minimal lag.
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Originally Posted by bobbob
Yes 250 ish on a N/A would be in the region if six grand with dry sump etc, but I bet by the time You turbo a Zetec with management and steel bottom end for reliability I would of thought it would be just as much
No mate not even close! You will need management and forged pistons and rods either way, but for a ZT you need no head work, cam or custom manifolds to achieve your target BHP of 250..... get a black top, build your forged bottom end, use ST valve springs (or devil developments, etc) and FRS 1.8mm gasket, FRS exhaust manifold and turbo.... done.
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You prob won't even need the 1.8mm thick head gasket if your putting forged pistons in the engine, a normal focus Rs gasket may suffice.
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With proper rods and pistons you would want the standard 0.6mm gasket and keep the squish
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Originally Posted by studabear
You prob won't even need the 1.8mm thick head gasket if your putting forged pistons in the engine, a normal focus Rs gasket may suffice.
Originally Posted by crazycage
With proper rods and pistons you would want the standard 0.6mm gasket and keep the squish
Yeah of course, choose your CR when choosing your pistons, I'm so used to ST conversions! lol
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