EFI conversion probs ( few Questions )
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Hi Chaps ,
well the 2.1 is in and running as you all know ,
But she is way way way overfueling , black smoke commin out of the zorst and is gassin me out the workshop .
Basicly i have used a Xr3i full car loom ( efi) and converted it to FRST spec usin rag tops conversion notes . http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/showth...threadid=37369
These are
ECU pin changes Pin 27 ( brown) move to pin 8 , for the c/o signal wire ?
Pin 45 (brown/yellow) move to, 27 for the MAP sensor ?
Remove pin 2 ( blue/yellow) in the EDIS module ??
For those in the know are these correct ??
as i said the car runs , a bit rough but think this is due to fueling
Timin has been quadrouple checked , tried a new ECU , c/o adjuster
map sensor and various other sensors just incase these are at fault .
The c/o doesnt seem to be adjustable at all so this leads me to think its a wiring fault .
Fuel pressure has been se and i have a permenent gusge so id know if anything was wrong ,
have lowered the pressure ( naughty i know ) and it makes the engine run a lot smoother
When u open the throttle it just dies , cuts out , again it leads to over fueling .
Any ideas ???????????????????????????/
Short of taking it to have all the wiring checked out .
Does any one have a ESCORT EFI wiring diagram as the haynes only shows one for the fiestas and not the escorts ?????
Thanks in advnce .
well the 2.1 is in and running as you all know ,
But she is way way way overfueling , black smoke commin out of the zorst and is gassin me out the workshop .
Basicly i have used a Xr3i full car loom ( efi) and converted it to FRST spec usin rag tops conversion notes . http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/showth...threadid=37369
These are
ECU pin changes Pin 27 ( brown) move to pin 8 , for the c/o signal wire ?
Pin 45 (brown/yellow) move to, 27 for the MAP sensor ?
Remove pin 2 ( blue/yellow) in the EDIS module ??
For those in the know are these correct ??
as i said the car runs , a bit rough but think this is due to fueling
Timin has been quadrouple checked , tried a new ECU , c/o adjuster
map sensor and various other sensors just incase these are at fault .
The c/o doesnt seem to be adjustable at all so this leads me to think its a wiring fault .
Fuel pressure has been se and i have a permenent gusge so id know if anything was wrong ,
have lowered the pressure ( naughty i know ) and it makes the engine run a lot smoother
When u open the throttle it just dies , cuts out , again it leads to over fueling .
Any ideas ???????????????????????????/
Short of taking it to have all the wiring checked out .
Does any one have a ESCORT EFI wiring diagram as the haynes only shows one for the fiestas and not the escorts ?????
Thanks in advnce .
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Yeah mate changed that .
Spoke to Kenny and he said i had changed to many wires ,
running a lot beter now . still slightly rich as it boggs down when u rev it.
does anyone know the set up procedure for FRST .
she idles at about 1100-1200RPM ,
have set it to 650 with the idle speed controle valve unpluged but when i plug it back in the revs jump back up .
have checked for air leaks and cant find nowt .
Spoke to Kenny and he said i had changed to many wires ,
running a lot beter now . still slightly rich as it boggs down when u rev it.
does anyone know the set up procedure for FRST .
she idles at about 1100-1200RPM ,
have set it to 650 with the idle speed controle valve unpluged but when i plug it back in the revs jump back up .
have checked for air leaks and cant find nowt .
Lee
was looking at what you had changed and it seemed like too many wires compared to when i did mine.
tape up pin on edis
move one pin on ecu and wire in i think pin 28 for boost control.
glad youve sorted it out.
thanks
Dave
was looking at what you had changed and it seemed like too many wires compared to when i did mine.
tape up pin on edis
move one pin on ecu and wire in i think pin 28 for boost control.
glad youve sorted it out.
thanks
Dave
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Thanks dave ,
as i mentioned in my mail to you it would be great if u could confirm the exact pin changes ,
I dont know what u mean about pin 28 ?? im not gonn run a amal valve to controle the boost , just run it primative ,
what u recon ???
as i mentioned in my mail to you it would be great if u could confirm the exact pin changes ,
I dont know what u mean about pin 28 ?? im not gonn run a amal valve to controle the boost , just run it primative ,
what u recon ???
i just wired it in for protection of turbo from over boost but i dont think it was used when i ran a superchip?
its a bit cruied anyway.
ill get those changes to you though
thanks
oiront (dave)
its a bit cruied anyway.
ill get those changes to you though
thanks
oiront (dave)
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Lee, ive read on FT.com, a few people had some troubles when they swapped the wires over, changed it back to how the XR loom was, ie, completely untouched, and it worked fine? Might be worth a shot!
Get her mapped dude
Get her mapped dude
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Thanks phill ,
when i spoke to kenny he asked what the ECU number was when it was a XR ,
i guess that there may have been a few varients .
as i didnt know he said to put the loom back to standard and to only move pin 27 to pin 8 , its a brown wire , surposidly for the co signal wire ??
now that u have mentioned it tho i have no adjustment for c/o at all , so will put that back to standard and see what happens .
i cant see how there has been so much confusion with these looms , surley the first couple of people to convert them would have sussed the correct pin changes , ( if any ) and spread the word ??????????????/
well get there ,
Bled the breaks through today and only have a very slight break , new servo is needed i think
Start running in this week fingers crossed ,
Couple o piccys for ya



when i spoke to kenny he asked what the ECU number was when it was a XR ,
i guess that there may have been a few varients .
as i didnt know he said to put the loom back to standard and to only move pin 27 to pin 8 , its a brown wire , surposidly for the co signal wire ??
now that u have mentioned it tho i have no adjustment for c/o at all , so will put that back to standard and see what happens .
i cant see how there has been so much confusion with these looms , surley the first couple of people to convert them would have sussed the correct pin changes , ( if any ) and spread the word ??????????????/
well get there ,
Bled the breaks through today and only have a very slight break , new servo is needed i think
Start running in this week fingers crossed ,
Couple o piccys for ya



Lee
as promised the wiring that i did on mine
it prevoiusly had a 1afa ecu if i remember rightly.
ok
edis pin2 b/y wire remove and tape up
boost control need bn/gn wire from ecu pin 33 to boost control solenoid
other side of solenoid bn wire to earth.
c/o signal bn wire can either be on ecu pin 8 or 27 mine was allready on pin 8 so thats where i left it.
by the way my ofac ecu is the series2 one ( hence reason why superchip would cut my boost at 15psi)
hth mate
thanks
Dave
as promised the wiring that i did on mine
it prevoiusly had a 1afa ecu if i remember rightly.
ok
edis pin2 b/y wire remove and tape up
boost control need bn/gn wire from ecu pin 33 to boost control solenoid
other side of solenoid bn wire to earth.
c/o signal bn wire can either be on ecu pin 8 or 27 mine was allready on pin 8 so thats where i left it.
by the way my ofac ecu is the series2 one ( hence reason why superchip would cut my boost at 15psi)
hth mate
thanks
Dave
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Thanks Dave ,
Thats what ive done so all the wiring should be spot on now .
1AFA , yep think that was what was on mine to .
Have removed the blue yellow wire from the edis module , ( what does that do anyway ?????????????????? )
Not gonna run the amal valve ( boost control ) as i said erlier so will leave that out , just gonna controle boost from the compressor housing .
I have one redy to go in should i need it .
whats this about a series 2 ofac ecu ?? and a super chip ??
confused me now ,
Thats what ive done so all the wiring should be spot on now .
1AFA , yep think that was what was on mine to .
Have removed the blue yellow wire from the edis module , ( what does that do anyway ?????????????????? )
Not gonna run the amal valve ( boost control ) as i said erlier so will leave that out , just gonna controle boost from the compressor housing .
I have one redy to go in should i need it .
whats this about a series 2 ofac ecu ?? and a super chip ??
confused me now ,
apparently ford made 2 versions of the ofac ecu and reversed some sensor input on it (cant remember ask Stu or Kenny) but when superchips did there 195 chip it was on the version 1 but as mine was version 2 the 195 chip doesnt work correctly and superchips never cracked it hence my boost used to cut violently at 15 psi when it shouldnt of done.
hth
thanks
oriont
hth
thanks
oriont
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Originally Posted by davidreader5
HI,
RUNNING RICH, HAVE YOU CHANGED THE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR(ECT)
Dave,
RUNNING RICH, HAVE YOU CHANGED THE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR(ECT)
Dave,
I changed the charge temp sensor for a FRST one , but nothing else ,
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