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I stand corrected! I thought the early ones were fitted with the same 1600 as the late Escorts did.
I thought the only cars a zetec se sat in was the fiesta and puma. 1600 Zetec E's were in the escort and focus, focus having seen 3 versions of the zetec E??????
I thought the only cars a zetec se sat in was the fiesta and puma. 1600 Zetec E's were in the escort and focus, focus having seen 3 versions of the zetec E??????
Marty shed some light
The ZS merely borrowed the Focus engine, that being a Sigma, or SE as you know it.
As I said above there was only 2 versions of the 'E' in the Focus, and two SE's.
The 1600 Zetec-E was fitted in the last of the Escorts and early Mondeos and is affectionately known as 'silvertop'.
Got ya. I thought the focus had the silver top in early models, then the black top and later a revised blacktop hence the timing belt tensioners were different to the first blacktop?
Got ya. I thought the focus had the silver top in early models, then the black top and later a revised blacktop hence the timing belt tensioners were different to the first blacktop?
You have what is known as phase 1 and phase 2 engines, the early ones had a metal cam cover with Zetec S engraved, which is what you are thinking of, while the latter had a black cam cover, either way it's still the same engine!
The 'silvertop' is what is references the old engine, i.e. the Zetec-E.
I'd go Puma route to be honest, got a puma'd mk5 zs myself with cat back & k&n - granted its not the fastest thing on the road but it is bloody quick up to 4th ! I've found tuning is *quite* limited on the 1.7 though, can get FRP inlet, FRP cams, HD Big end bolts & FRP map, 4-2-1, should apparently get to around 150bhp - 160bhp (so i've read)
or if you can get hold of 1, an FRP engine.
Ash you will not get 160bhp with them mods you just said, someone I know has a zs with complete FRP conversion headwork,cams ete etc and he only just see's 146bhp and all that cost him 2k.... 2k fuck me Ł500 on a 1.6 S (sigma) engine would easily see 140-150bhp who in there right mind would spend Ł2000 on an engine for just 146bhp when for Ł1000 you could build a turbo engine with 250+bhp MADNESS!!!
Ash you will not get 160bhp with them mods you just said, someone I know has a zs with complete FRP conversion headwork,cams ete etc and he only just see's 146bhp and all that cost him 2k.... 2k fuck me Ł500 on a 1.6 S (sigma) engine would easily see 140-150bhp who in there right mind would spend Ł2000 on an engine for just 146bhp when for Ł1000 you could build a turbo engine with 250+bhp MADNESS!!!
Ł2k using the right second hand bits would see 160+, bike bodies, LM4s, Miltek 4-1, a touch of head work and some rod bolts.
What i was getting at why would you spend 2k on an engine for not much gain when you could build a bloody good engine from scratch for that with double,treble the power
What i was getting at why would you spend 2k on an engine for not much gain when you could build a bloody good engine from scratch for that with double,treble the power
Different power delivery, personal preference I guess!
01-09-2013, 10:32 AM
