am4nf

My gf's dad has a 52 plate mk1 1.6 zetec focus and its got really really bad piston slap by the sound of it, garage said its either the crankshaft or a piston, but today he put it back in for them to get the head off for a look and they have said the engines goosed.

So my questions are, are the mounts for the 1.8 or 2.0 the same as the 1.6? & are the mk2 engines the same as the mk1's? if not will they fit the mounts anyways?

Are there any differences in the likes of the ghia's or lx?

Basically would either engine drop straight in, the 1.8 & 2.0 seem much cheaper than the 1.6 engine on ebay.... so I was thinking why not get a bigger engine while hes at it

Any help would be great

Escow-Van

1.8 and 2.0 are the same as each other - but not the 1.6, 1.6 and 1.4 are Zetec SE engines, whereas the 1.8 and 2.0 are Zetec E.
Mk2's have Duratec engines and are different all together.

Trim level won't effect the engine as such, though you may get an air con pump on some, not others.

Unfortunately I think a 1.6 is the best option. I'm surprised the 1.6 is more expensive tbh, I'd have thought it was much more common.

am4nf

A lot more 1.8's than anything else tbh

So are the mounts different on the 1.8 to the 1.6?

phil_focus

there are LOADS of things different on the 1.8/2l than he 1.4/1.6.

intake and exhausts are on different sides for a start. sensors and management are different so will need engine loom and ecu, then you'll have to sort the immobiliser out and possibly keys.

not worth it unless the car is a good base and you want to drop a big bhp motor in.

incidentally any 1.6 zetec se will do, early or late gen (aluminium cam cover and plastic), they'll swap no problem.

tabetha

Be careful with the 1.6, as there is one engine that has inlet front exhaust rear.
tabetha

martysmartie

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The 1600 Sigma (Zetec-SE) you have and the 1.8-2L are completely different engines the only resemblance being the name, so to answer your question if you want a straight swap you need another identical engine, this also came in two phases (Mentioned) with subtle differences (Early models had a metal cam cover with "Zetec-S" the later had a plastic cam cover with "Zetec-SE" printed on it, this is how to easy tell the two apart, but both would fit.

Don't be fooled into getting this engine rebuilt, the bottom end is a "Throw Away" component on these engines and thus Ford do not supply tolerances.

All have a plastic inlet manifold at the front, if your looking at an 1600 otherwise then it isn't an SE.

Incidentally the 1.8-L (Zetec-E) has opposing manifolds so this is just one major amongst many differences between these engines.

As to trim levels, mechanically no, trim wise lots of differences. (The Zetec has sports suspension)

Martin

phil_focus

the 1.6 silvertop with exhaust a the front is an early zetec e. all zetec se's are the other way round.

just thought i'd clarify that for the OP

am4nf

cheers for the info guys, so phil that means I need to match the engine exactly to weither its a silver or black top?

phil_focus

no, just so long as its a 1.6 zetec se engine you will be fine. he early zetec se had a silver aluminium cam cover with zetec s on it but its essentially (only minor differences) the same as the black top zetec se.

i'll try and find some pics to clarify, make sure we're on the same page. now wheres google

phil_focus

here we go.

late generation 1.6 zetec se with black plastinc cam cover...incidentally pictured in a focus

http://www.greylizard.net/images/for...fordfocus8.jpg

early generation 1.6 zetec se with silver aluminium cam cover, says "zetec s" somewhere (might be on the engine cover - not pictured - as oposed to cam cover).

http://is01.thegumtree.com/image/big/36720933.jpg

both the above engines are interchangable. one of the guys on here has swaped them in his focus when his original engine died so its been done before.

early generation (silver top) zetec e in 1.6l capacity. also did 1.8 and 2l. late generation zetec e were only 1.8 and 2l with black plastic cam covers. note exhaust and inlet completely different and on opposite sides of engine.

http://media.turbosport.co.uk/2005/2...0502211942.gif

am4nf

So it wont matter which 1.6 he gets then?

martysmartie

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So long as it's a 1600 Zetec-SE then no!

Martin

phil_focus

^^^ what marty said.

am4nf

Ok cheers

phil_focus

not a prob