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Old 15-07-2010, 08:23 PM
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Hi people i currently own a ford escort gti zetech 16v with k&n filter,was thinking about adding a 2.0l throttle body prob from a mondeo but will it just simply replace my old throttle body or will i have to do any mods and how much more power will it give,also what else can i do to get more power without a turbo conversion as i dont have much cash due to having 3 kids and a misses and only a £15000 a year paid job,thanks
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depends what your budget is matey. I had a mk3 fez with gti engine out escort, had fast road cams, boost valve, 4-2-1 ashley manifold, decat, ashley system back, 2 litre throttle body and maf sensor, powertech air filter was running 160 bhp.

the throttle body bolts straight on if iirc but may need a bit of fetling for the throttle cable mount, tbh it may add a few bhp and make throttle response that bit better but not a whole lot. depending on budget have you thought about bike carbs? throttle bodies? 40's etc? Not as expensive as the turbo route and can get a good amount of power out zetec.

I owned a escort si same bhp engine standard as gti, had a powerflow stainless system, decat, chip, air filter and boost valve, my mates rs2000 couldnt look at it.
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Originally Posted by JamesyRS
depends what your budget is matey. I had a mk3 fez with gti engine out escort, had fast road cams, boost valve, 4-2-1 ashley manifold, decat, ashley system back, 2 litre throttle body and maf sensor, powertech air filter was running 160 bhp.

the throttle body bolts straight on if iirc but may need a bit of fetling for the throttle cable mount, tbh it may add a few bhp and make throttle response that bit better but not a whole lot. depending on budget have you thought about bike carbs? throttle bodies? 40's etc? Not as expensive as the turbo route and can get a good amount of power out zetec.

I owned a escort si same bhp engine standard as gti, had a powerflow stainless system, decat, chip, air filter and boost valve, my mates rs2000 couldnt look at it.
Hmmm your mates RS2000 must have been knackered if it couldn't keep up with a GTi with those mods. Or are you talking about a Mk1 RS2000?

You can't just bung a bigger MAF on with the original ECU and expect it to run right. The MAF and ECU are calibrated to work together and changing the MAF will throw the calibration right out unless you have a custom map. The fuel consumption would go through the roof which is no good if you're on a tight budget.
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defo wasnt knackered ran sweet maybe would have got me up top but by that time he was left mk6 rs2000 arnt as quick as everyone makes them out to be and my SI with those mods out ran his rs2000 without hesitation
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cheers jamesyrs,i hate to admit but i allways had jap cars and not long been driving but fancied a change,also im no machanic i can do the average oil change,change driveshaft clutches pistons ect but when it comes to tuning im useless,so what kida road cams will i need and roughly how much and same for the boost valve and am i right in thinking that the best throttle body for the gti is the 2.0l mondeo or is there better,dont know budget as i will be buying bits each payday after bills ect been paid,cheers for ya help matey
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i think you need a 2l ECU, get s the ECU, cams, maf sensor and throttloe body off a 2l, and the bootom end to if you want. then youll have about 135 , exhaust (with decat and give the mot a back hander ) and inductuion kit might add about 10 more as well

then a st170 manifold and a chip
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cheers mate how much this gonna cost
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also would it help to upgrade my injectors and if so to which ones
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depends on your taste on cams, I had kent fast road cams in my zetec, werent too lumpy and still had a gd daily driver, power band was 2000-6500 revs. think the kit including followers etc from kent is 800 may be cheaper now but get cams alone cheaper. as for 2 litre stuff few people have said you need ecu, although my conversion to gti included the 1.8 engine and 2 litre throttle body etc it still ran on the 1.6 ecu! with no problems so better asking someone who knows exactly what to do about that. Although the main thing here WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF FORDS
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Originally Posted by JamesyRS
depends on your taste on cams, I had kent fast road cams in my zetec, werent too lumpy and still had a gd daily driver, power band was 2000-6500 revs. think the kit including followers etc from kent is 800 may be cheaper now but get cams alone cheaper. as for 2 litre stuff few people have said you need ecu, although my conversion to gti included the 1.8 engine and 2 litre throttle body etc it still ran on the 1.6 ecu! with no problems so better asking someone who knows exactly what to do about that. Although the main thing here WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF FORDS
cheers mate just found fat road cams on ebay ranging from150 upwards and ford are o much easier to work on than my old corrola 1.8 efi
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