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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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hi ive just done a 2.0 zetec conversion into my mk3 escort ,ive used a zetec 1.6i k reg loom,ive got it all up and running but when i put the 2.0 ecu on it wont run ive got 2 ecus desk and dewy and both wont fire it up any ideas what to do ? if not il just run it with the 1.6 ecu but i think it might be down on power with it on
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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pats??
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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the loom i used i took out myself of a k reg escort 1.6i that didnt have pats and both the 2.0 ecus are from non pats cars,so dont understand it
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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How far do you get with the 2.0 ECU - does the fuel pump run? Does the engine control relay energise?

Are you 100% sure that the pin-out of the 1.6 & 2.0 ECUs are the same, as there can sometimes be minor (but important) differences between them?
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Is the ECU from a Mondeo with automatic gearbox?? Mondeo MK1 with automatic gearboxes have external EDIS. Some older Escort MK5 have external EDIS,up to around 1992.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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both ecus are from 2.0 si models 136 ps,the pump runs but the injectors dont squirt any fuel out,the loom im using has edis external i think?? its on the wiring with a like ignition module plugged in saying edis4,it seems to run ok with the 1.6 ecu i just dont understand it
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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OK.You cant use the Mondeo ECU`s.They are not meant for external EDIS. Best to do is to get a ECU from a Escort MK5 XR3i 130 PS,early models,they have external EDIS.Or try a ECU from a Mondeo MK1 with auto gearbox.

I found out this because i have 2 Escort MK5,a 1992 1.8 Zetec and a 1994 1.8 Zetec. I`ve put a Mondeo MK1 2.0 ECU in the 94 and it works,but when i fitted the same 2.0 ECU in the 92 it wouldnt start.I got a hold of a ECU from a 92 Escort 1.8 XR3i 130 PS and that worked. Later i discovered that the 92 Escort has external EDIS and tried a ECU from a Mondeo MK1 2.0 auto gearbox wich also have external EDIS,and the car started. I havent driven it yet so i dont know if it has got more power.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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Yes, I think omgu_74 is correct.

Would this be any help: http://www.rsbible.co.uk/orion/orion.htm
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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thats great,cheers for all your replys il get another ecu sorted
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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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hello everybody, I really do need help since i dont know what to do, I have a 1997 mondeo 1.6 silvertop manual transmission non pats, Ive done a conversion to 2.0 zetec silvertop, but here in egypt we do not have mk1 mondeos so i can't get DESK or DEWY ecu's :s, I am now running the 1.6 ecu :s which most people said is very dangerous for the engine in addition to power loss, what can I do? shal i just run it on the 1.6 ecu? is there a way to bypass the pats system? is there a way to diy remap the current ecu? can i make my car have pats? ie: can i use a pats enabled ECU by any way? what is the solution to this huge problem :S ???? plzzzz i need advice
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hi guys i bought a fiesta mk3 with 2.0 silver top out of mk1 mondeo and have just started stripping it and jst wanna find out wheather i am running a 2.0 ecu the code is 93bb-12a650-ef and it has deep writtern on it and i have a black box with pats control unit writtern on it
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by matt blk besta
hi guys i bought a fiesta mk3 with 2.0 silver top out of mk1 mondeo and have just started stripping it and jst wanna find out wheather i am running a 2.0 ecu the code is 93bb-12a650-ef and it has deep writtern on it and i have a black box with pats control unit writtern on it
Yes.

DEEP (93BB) ECU is a 2.0L Non-Pats, Manual Transmission ECU from an early Mk1 Mondeo.

Why you would have a Pats Control Unit there though... - I dont know.
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