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Old 06-11-2008, 11:02 AM
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Arrow Cars drivin me nuts!!

Thought id get a classic 80's car as i've had a 60's and then 70's...

i've not long done an oil change and all has been well but on the way home yest when at tick over the oil light started to flicker. the traffic was busy so it was stop start etc after a few stops it seemed to stay on a little longer than a flicker...got home checked the oil and its a little (2mm) above the max

Also I'm driving down the motorway doin 69-70 mph (honest officer) and when I put foot down turbo kicks in goes faster but then its like it floods as when i gently take my foot off it kinda speeds up (HOPE THIS MAKES SENCE)

and finally...not looked yet but is the gearbox oil change easy? as it whines a bit and i want to be sure its not just the oil before i invest in a recon

can anyone help me?

or does anyone live in the M43 area could come and have a go and tell me there thoughts?
Old 06-11-2008, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by t31ryt
Thought id get a classic 80's car as i've had a 60's and then 70's...

i've not long done an oil change and all has been well but on the way home yest when at tick over the oil light started to flicker. the traffic was busy so it was stop start etc after a few stops it seemed to stay on a little longer than a flicker...got home checked the oil and its a little (2mm) above the max

Also I'm driving down the motorway doin 69-70 mph (honest officer) and when I put foot down turbo kicks in goes faster but then its like it floods as when i gently take my foot off it kinda speeds up (HOPE THIS MAKES SENCE)

and finally...not looked yet but is the gearbox oil change easy? as it whines a bit and i want to be sure its not just the oil before i invest in a recon

can anyone help me?

or does anyone live in the M43 area could come and have a go and tell me there thoughts?
is it a cvh?? wrong oil buy the sounds of it what did you use?? gear box oil is not desined to be drained the only way to get it out is to pop a drive shaft out then refill through the top up plug but if it is making a noise fresh oil aint gonna help. as for the fueling get it set up on the rollers what car is it out of intrest im just gessing its an s2
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YEAH ITS AN "S-POOH" at the moment....its just the front bumbers wrong....it will get done eventually
Old 06-11-2008, 11:39 AM
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:41 AM
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gear box oil is designed to be drained, thats y majority of them have a plug on them, thats a load of bull, i always drain my gear box oil using a the plug which ITS DESIGNED FOR, its normally a allen key fitment, empty it all out and look at the colour of the oil, also if ya want feel for any grit or metal in the fluid, this would indicate if things are starting to fail, then what you do is top the gearbox oil back up with fresh new fluid, have the passenger side jacked up, and top it up till the oil dribbles out the drain hole, this will indicate sufficient oil in the gear box, oil pressure switch could be your problem but always whise doing a compression test on each cylinder, then compare them to a fords manual, but whilst car is jacked up you can check the oil pressure switch whilst your under there, its round the back of the block, if its covered in oil, clean it up and replace it, always worth while sticking a high grade oil in
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thanks guys!

do you think it is over fueling the other problem??
Old 06-11-2008, 01:09 PM
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Going from 60s and 70s reliability to 80s cheap mass-made rubbish is always going to hurt.
Only thing 80s cars do well is rot.

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Old 06-11-2008, 01:10 PM
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maybe worth while finding out when it was last set up, wen was the last full service, if not sure get it serviced and put on the rollers for a set up mate
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From what I can gather it was in 05 by Norris motor sport, it has had a lot of work since...new pistons, gearbox (Boll0x) and inlet.. is there nowt you can adjust without putting on a rolling road?

p.s How much is a rolling road?
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Originally Posted by escort4x4
gear box oil is designed to be drained, thats y majority of them have a plug on them, thats a load of bull, i always drain my gear box oil using a the plug which ITS DESIGNED FOR, its normally a allen key fitment, empty it all out and look at the colour of the oil, also if ya want feel for any grit or metal in the fluid, this would indicate if things are starting to fail, then what you do is top the gearbox oil back up with fresh new fluid, have the passenger side jacked up, and top it up till the oil dribbles out the drain hole, this will indicate sufficient oil in the gear box, oil pressure switch could be your problem but always whise doing a compression test on each cylinder, then compare them to a fords manual, but whilst car is jacked up you can check the oil pressure switch whilst your under there, its round the back of the block, if its covered in oil, clean it up and replace it, always worth while sticking a high grade oil in
sorry mate but buy the sounds of it you have never worked on an escort rs turbo THEY DONT HAVE DRAIN PLUGS!!! bit funny how you think the switch broke when he changed the oil!!!! so he has got to clean the old switch up then replace it

we got a tuner in the making peeps
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lads lads "lets not bikker and argue" I'm the one thats seen my arse!! was nearly selling it last night....but then I put my foot down on way home and u cant help but forget.

i'l have a look later on the car "i think i know the box is screwed" but as i've not had it long I dont wanna tell the missus it wants a gearbox just yet

I can see me buying a couple of bannanas that may shut the fecker up!
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ive owned 3 of them and have a mate who has 2 of them, always worked on my car n i know for a fact that they have a drain plug on them, so before accusing and shouting your mouth off id check ya facts buddy, to the drain plug is a allen key fitment, which is to the right of the reverse sensor switch, cant miss it, you can always top it up from there, you saying you have to take a drive shaft out is ludacris and mad, and as for the oil pressure switch yeh i read wat i wrote, and i shall correct myself, id replace with a new one as they are cheap and easy to replace, tell tale sign of switch needing replacing is the oil thats surrounding it caused by a leak.
Now if im wrong bout the box ill stand corrected but ill lay any money that a rs turbo box has a drain plug
Old 06-11-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by escort4x4
ive owned 3 of them and have a mate who has 2 of them, always worked on my car n i know for a fact that they have a drain plug on them, so before accusing and shouting your mouth off id check ya facts buddy, to the drain plug is a allen key fitment, which is to the right of the reverse sensor switch, cant miss it, you can always top it up from there, you saying you have to take a drive shaft out is ludacris and mad, and as for the oil pressure switch yeh i read wat i wrote, and i shall correct myself, id replace with a new one as they are cheap and easy to replace, tell tale sign of switch needing replacing is the oil thats surrounding it caused by a leak.
Now if im wrong bout the box ill stand corrected but ill lay any money that a rs turbo box has a drain plug
Sorry mate your wrong they dont have a drain bung. That allen key bung near the reverse switch is the level check/top up hole, And yes you do have to remove the driveshafts to drain the majority of the oil
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im not starting an argument but they realy dont mate that is the top up plug ring ford how often you have to change the gear box oil.
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They can be drained relatively empty by removing the 5th gear spring loaded ball locator thing, or whatever it is called, looks like a long plug.
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iv been with rs turbos and xr3i escorts for 10 yrs now, and iv never found a drain plug on the gearbox. allways had to pop a drive shaft!
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Hi guys
i opened the inspection hole and found it was empty I have put the below in her...it took half a ltr until it started to spill

also cant believe how clean the floor is once i gave it a little wipe with a cloth
i dont know whether to use waxoil or paint it with sommat??






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Yeah no drain plug, have to remove drive shaft.

Oil light on at idle is low oil pressure (obviously ), could be oil pressure switch these are only a few pound so get a new one, could be oil pump, but if it only does it when hot then it could be the big end shells, listen for bottom end knocking mate, if it's not now it might bee soon.

Rolling road is about £150 ish, no you cant adjust the fuelling yourself at least not with out a wide band lambda sensor and a AFR gauge (£300 minimum for a half decnet one).

The way you describe it it actually sounds to me like it's under fuelling on boost, if that is the case you risk a melt down!
So get it setup ASAP!!

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