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Old 03-06-2008 | 11:13 PM
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Default Fiesta Rs1800 Zetec Trouble... Smoking?

Right i have a Rs1800 engine which i fitted to my fiesta si

I fitted it a few months ago and been driving the car a few months since fitment.

Now it has never realy been perfect, as i wasnt using the right ecu, temperature sensors etc

Now i have all the right related 1.8 parts Temp sensors, ECU, but i am running a ported mondeo 2.0 TB, Power Chip Mondeo 2.0 MAF sensor

The car has been of the road for 3 weeks as i have been doing work to it, and now ive started it back up today and it has started smoking not alot but its still throwing out a puff of smoke here and there..

I dont see how valves/piston rings could have gone while the car has been stationary?

I changed the head gasket when i orignaly fitted the engine to the car so i doubt it is that.

Also flushed out the water system and renewd with clean water+anti freeze.

What could the reason be for the smoking? it has had a brand new cat fitted as my other go stolen while i was rebuilding it, could that be the problem?

Fuel Filters or plugs need changing maybe?

Any ideas anyone?

thanks matty
Old 03-06-2008 | 11:33 PM
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mostly just the new cat bedding in
ive had this before when fitting new exhausts
Old 03-06-2008 | 11:37 PM
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i thought that but wasnt 100% was begining to get worried haha

it was glowing bright red so i guess this has something to do with it also?
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Now i have all the right related 1.8 parts Temp sensors, ECU, but i am running a ported mondeo 2.0 TB, Power Chip Mondeo 2.0 MAF sensor
You contradict yourself; you don't have all the right parts. So try again.
Old 04-06-2008 | 11:05 PM
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no it is seperated with a comma... BUT i am running..

im taking of the MAF tommorow and using the 1.8 one to see what happens..
Old 07-06-2008 | 02:16 PM
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Right

I have changed to the 1.8 maf, got rid of the powerchip and it is still smoking a bit and ideling funny

anyone have any ideas what it could be?

Is there any common problems i can look into?

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Old 09-06-2008 | 05:30 PM
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i think it might be down to over fueling.. does anyone have any ideas?
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what colour is the smoke? Black or blue? When does it smoke? When revved? on the over run etc?
Old 09-06-2008 | 06:21 PM
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The TB could cause it to overfuel and lower revs. But with what you have done I am not surprised it is not running right. Keep it simple!!
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Originally Posted by Wardy257
The TB could cause it to overfuel and lower revs.!
Complete bollocks.
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Complete bollocks.

Why? Prove it?
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Originally Posted by Wardy257
Why? Prove it?
Fuelling is metered by the MAF (to put it simply) so changing the throttle body won't make any difference at all. It's not like you'd be getting any gain from putting a larger one on anyway.

These mix'n'match setups rarely perform.
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it only smokes at high revs, and its black smoke

i have a video of whats happening ill upload it now
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not the best video

but it shows what happens at idle and the smoke that comes out throught the revs

where its going up and down that isnt me with the throttle thats the way it idles when its cold, when its warmd up it does settle down so it isnt up down up down type thing

any help will be most appriciated

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Black smoke usually suggests worn piston rings. You could also have an air leak somewhere, check none of the pipes have come off anywhere or have perished.
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Er no, black smoke is overfuelling. Blue smoke is rings. That video looks like a mixture of black smoke and condensation, but it's hard to tell.

Try running the car without the MAF plugged in. Take the chip out too.
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it dont think its oil related as it wasnt burning oil before i took it of the road for my strip down about 3 weeks ago, you recon it could be dodgy petrol as its been stored for 3 weeks or so?

the chip is out ill try the maf idea

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Fuelling is metered by the MAF (to put it simply)
Wrong, oh well.
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Originally Posted by Wardy257
Wrong, oh well.
It's far from wrong, I have the calibration sitting here infront of me. I know exactly how it works. Stop interjecting because you think you know what you're talking about.
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anyone else have anyidea what could be causing it to smoke so bad?

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sounds like uve bent the valves when uve done the head gasket and by the way thats not an rs1800 engine
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Originally Posted by gavin1165
sounds like uve bent the valves when uve done the head gasket and by the way thats not an rs1800 engine
The inlet manifold is the 130PS one. Don't judge a book by its cover!
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yeah but its got a duatec head on it and rs 1800 cums with zetec silver tops there for iam judging it by its COVER
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It doesn't have a Duratec head on it. It has a 'black top' cam cover on it, they're interchangeable.
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well thats just like puttin an rs turbo badge on the back when its not wat a waste of space
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So changing the aluminium cam cover for a black plastic one (from an engine with the same power) is like pretending it's an RS Turbo? You have issues my friend.
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no uve got issues cos theres smoke cuming out of ur tailpipe hahahaha
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I do?
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Originally Posted by gavin1165
yeah but its got a duatec head on it and rs 1800 cums with zetec silver tops there for iam judging it by its COVER

I've never read so much bollock sprouting in all my life
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
It's far from wrong, I have the calibration sitting here infront of me. I know exactly how it works. Stop interjecting because you think you know what you're talking about.
We all bow to your superior knowledge
And you could try to be a bit less arrogant in your replies too
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Cozziekid- I'm sorry if the truth has bothered you.



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It hasnt, you just come across as an arrogant everyone else is wrong you are right big headed cock. Theres no need.
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Originally Posted by Cozziekid
It hasnt, you just come across as an arrogant everyone else is wrong you are right big headed cock. Theres no need.
So rather than detail the facts, I should just go along with bullshit incase someone thinks i'm arrogant? I think you need some thicker skin my dear fellow.
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Just an observation of how you've come across here, wasnt saying you gave bad advice mate but you dont have to patronise people. Subject closed, give the guy his thread back.
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well said cossie kid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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