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Old 13-10-2007, 08:49 PM
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dose anyone know if it is possible to fit the 2wd cossie 4 pots and standard cossie disks to a s2 escort rs? iv heard the will fit straight on with longer bolts and aew washers?? has anyone done this befor? thanks
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Old 13-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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The 2wd 4 pots need some machining done (about 4mm) to the caliper the 4wd calipers are the one that just need washers and bolts to fit.
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Old 14-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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hmmm i see . are the 4 pot lot better than the 4x4 calipers?
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Old 14-10-2007, 02:12 PM
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4wd brakes are shite 2wd are ace.
4wd belong on a bicycle 2wd on a car.
4wd cossie brakes no better than any other single piston type of the same size, ie mondeo etc.
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Old 14-10-2007, 03:21 PM
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As tabetha says there not really worth the work if you want a quick cheap upgrade then just get the brakets and fit 2wd disks and keep your s2 calipers they will work just as good as the 4wd calipers.
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Old 14-10-2007, 03:36 PM
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theres a good how to guide on www.rsbible.co.uk
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Old 15-10-2007, 10:17 AM
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thanks people
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Old 15-10-2007, 11:56 AM
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can you tell me where i can find some brakets to mount the 2wd calipers??
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Old 15-10-2007, 12:08 PM
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actually,do i even need brakets??? i just been reading the rs bible and it dose not say anything about brakets he just mentions about machineing the face of the calliper 4mm to fit the standard cossie disc? whats that about?? i cant go any bigger than standard cossie disk size as im still using 15" rs wheels.
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Old 15-10-2007, 12:21 PM
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If you are using rst brackets/brakes then you will need bracket to space out, if using 4wd cos then you don't need brackets.
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The 4 pots need 4mm machined of the face the hubs redrilles and tapped to m12, aslo the will not fit under the standard wheels without spacers they foul on the back of the spokes.
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Old 16-10-2007, 08:09 AM
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hmmm well i think for now i may just do what antony215 said and use my calipers and the bigger disks.dose anyone know where i can get hold of some mounting brackets for this???
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Old 16-10-2007, 11:27 AM
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You don't need brackets no.

You have to have the caliper machined as said, then you have to tap the hubs out to an M12 thread and get some high tensile cap head bolts to fasten them.

The biggest problem with this upgrade is the brake pipe connections, as when fitted they point out directly at the CV joints so you can't use normal brake pipes.
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Old 16-10-2007, 01:01 PM
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This is what you want if your keeping your s2 calipers and fitting cosworth 2wd discs

http://www.randbmotorsport.co.uk/sho...p?ProductID=49
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Old 17-10-2007, 02:44 PM
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If you buy this months Fast Ford they have done a step by step on how to fit cosworth caliper to an Escort.
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Old 18-10-2007, 09:47 AM
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thanks guys,gunna give it a go,do ya recon they will make alot of difference?
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Old 18-10-2007, 02:03 PM
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4 pots should make a very noticeable difference
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good good. at the moment im running black diamond drilled/groved disks and ebc greens and they still fade loads.replaced all the fluids and still dose it? so i think it shal have to be bigger disks.
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Old 19-10-2007, 09:56 PM
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Try using BETTER fluid, if your getting fade changing the calipers isnt going to solve that!

Thats more than likely the fluid boiling.
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Old 20-10-2007, 08:13 AM
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rite,just bought this months fast ford and its telling me all about this conversion,it all looks good but it says you need a rs2000 handbrake cable,so i looked for one and it turns out there are like 3 different sizes? ? dose anyone have an idea which length i should use???
2987mm
1470mm
1415mm
anyway thanks for the help people
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Old 20-10-2007, 09:34 AM
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rite,just bought this months fast ford and its telling me all about this conversion,it all looks good but it says you need a rs2000 handbrake cable,so i looked for one and it turns out there are like 3 different sizes? ? dose anyone have an idea which length i should use???
2987mm
1470mm
1415mm
anyway thanks for the help people
Thought you were doing the front not the back???????
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Old 20-10-2007, 09:44 AM
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i am doing the front. just thinking on what i will need to do the back aswell.
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Old 20-10-2007, 09:57 AM
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Id leave the standard drums on mate there just as good having discs on the back can cause all sorts of problems
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yer i herd that it can cause trouble mate,if i were to change them it would only be for looks to be honest so dont really need em
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discs are easier to work on than the drums but the conversion can be a bit of a headache, if you're going to do it get brackets that mount the calipers at 12 o'clock that will make it considerably easier all round.
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yer iv got the dimensions for brakets that sit a 12o clock possition, dosent that have summin to do with when you bleed them? how thick do you recon the brackets should be? iv got the dimensions for everything else just not the thickness, bout 150mm????
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It makes them easier to bleed and also stops the handbrake cable being a tight stretch.

150mm???? If/when you strip the drums off refit the bearing housing and measure the distance between that and and the hub, and then subtract off say 1mm for clearance, and that will be about as thick as you can have them really.
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hi could u tell me which issue the caliper conversion in fast ford was in plz?
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issue 259, november 2007
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cheeRS coswurv!
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