what needs doing to bypass it, have seen cars with the plastic pipes from the servo blocked off, but it also looks like the a.b.s pumps need the pipes from them connecting together or do i just leave the pumps in place on the box?
any help is appreciated

 

you are better just unbolting complete abs system and chucking it m8,then you will need master cylinder from non abs car,xr3i etc,then you will have to renew all brake pipes,and lastly,remove abs relay from under dash so abs light doesnt come on.(job done)

 

cheers

 

this is what i was told to do

[quote="craig rs"]basically just remove all the belts and everything associated with the abs, i had to take the abs bulb out from behind the dash so there was no light on so it passed the mot, also u will need to block the 2 pipes that run to the abs system out the master cylinder, hope this pic helps.....

 

whats the advantage of removeing the abs? cant you stop quicker with it and steer if you lock the wheels up?

 

sp. removing

 

you can but the abs on the rs turbo isnt worth a wank in alot of peoples opinion mate thats why mines is going

 

Wrong

If its a Series 2 they have unique master cylinders, the biggest size @ 25mm. Just remove the ABS and get some pipes made up to join the gaps where the ABS once was, its very easy

 

Its more a case of Mk4's are wank

You won't find ABS on a Mk3

 

dont get me started on mk3's my pals one ripped the back end out my mk6 escort last night

 

You what lol

Do share it with us

 

im not wrong m8,removed loads abs from rsts,i wouldny have told the guy that unless i was 100% sure!!

just 1 query about ur method,there is only 2 copper pipe outlets on abs mastercylinder,the other 2 are plastic pipes,how are joining them safely?

its easier to get 4 outlet cylinder,ie,xr31 etc etc,then there are no joins you can run 1 piece pipes to each corner of the car.eliminating bleeding problems and improving pedal!

 

I'm sorry........but........YOU ARE WRONG

The only cars to have a 25mm master cylinder were S2's because they have the biggest brakes in the range. There is no such thing as a 4 port 25mm item, because ABS was a factory standard feature for every car that left the production line.

The only way to do your method is to downgrade the master cylinder size to a 23mm which is just crazy talk.

 

The 2 plastic pipe outlets are return pipes man what are you on about

You take the 2 outlets from the MS, and use your home made pipes to connect these to the T pieces located on the inner wings which make the 2 pipes into 4. Then you get a non ABS reservoir which doesnt have any return holes.

Are you really sure you've removed ABS before because i for one can't say im convinced?

 

i couldnt care less whether your convinced m8,im not goin to get into a debate with you!!

you are obviously not grasping where i am coming from.so here goes again,your 25mm cyl has 2 outlets,if you are dividing they outlets into 2 pipes each side that means that you are dividing fluid supply by 2 which in turn means more brake effort needed and therefore less brake performance at wheel!!

my method even if it is 23mm,which by the way you will never feel on the road!!

anyway my 4 outlet cyl is still neater job with less hassle than your method and as there is 4 outlets i am getting better brake performance with less effort,if you understand that??????

oh and 1 other thing ive probably forgot more about rsts than you will ever know by the sound of things.

 

lol you stressy fucker

Ive got a good idea everyone, lets downgrade our RS brakes to a 23mm master cylinder

Who else is up for doing that?

 

wul young


You are not "dividing" the flow. Using a 23mm master cylinder is daft as hell. Do as Chav says, and simply get a non abs resevoir and t piece in....

 

That's the way to do it And by the way that's my drawing that I made few years ago as I was removing my ABS

But stop arguing wul young's way is just one more way ... both ways are good enough, but I thing my way way is easier to do as you just need two new lines

 

The main issue is he is advising people to change down to a 23mm master cylinder. The reason a S2 has a 25mm master cylinder is because they have the biggest brakes of all the Mk4 cars.

 

I wouldn't downgrade too but hey it's not worth arguing

 

I'm not the one getting my knickers in a twist over it

After all, wul young has "forgotten more than i know" apparently

 

my knickers are fine thanks m8,as said above enough said!!
each to there own eh.

but i would bet anyone that if i had 2 cars side by side,1 with 23mm cyl and 1 with 25mm cyl,not anyone would be able to tell the difference by driving both the cars,i have tryd it both ways.

the 23mm cyl is still a neater and tidier mod in my opinion,neater 1 piece pipes and no joining involved,and equal fluid distrubution to each brake.

 

Neater and more asthetically pleasing - yes

Equal fluid distibution to each cylinder - there is no difference

Difference between a 25mm and 23mm - Ford wouldnt of uprated it to 25mm for the sake of it if they could of got away with fitting the mass produced 23mm item..........

 

thats no what im saying!!!!
you would not be able to tell difference,nothing to do with ford or mass production!!!!!!!
we will just agree to disagree on subject then!!!!

 

So answer me this......why did ford fit a 25mm master cylinder to the S2 if the 23mm does an equally good job...............

Clearly your knowledge is better than the millions of pounds a car manufacturer pours into developing a car

Anyway......bullsrs, its up to you what you do but hopefully you can make up your own mind which is the better option. Feel free to give a PM or whatever if you get stuck or want any help

 

your asking me a question that is unanswerable now.
i think you should contact ford regarding that one
your jumping to conclusions now!!
i never said my knowledge was better than manufacturer,im just speaking from previous experience with messing around with rsts for last 15 years!!

 

and i think your just avoiding the question because you dont really have a clue what your on about

It wasnt long ago u were bigging yourself up claiming "you have forgotten more about RS's than i know", and now you dont the answer to a fairly simple question

 

lol,lol,lol,lol,lol.
your full of shit chav!!!!!
yes i said more than YOU KNOW!!! that doesnt mean more than the manufacturer.
we are speaking the same language are we not,cause i dont know where you are geting these conclusions from????

 

Your full of shit when it comes to the crunch you cant produce any answers.

The fact of the matter is ford fitted a 25mm item for a reason, but you apparently know better.

 

wul young

im soory but i have to agrre with safechav all this i know more than you bullshit is not going to help this boy fix his motor i value safechav's opinions cause when i comees to the cruch if it wasnt for him then there would be a lot of rs turbos in the scrapper. saying that youve forgot more than he knows is just point scoring if you know more than him then help the people out with there problems yeah you both were right in away both ways would work but this im forgot more than you bullshit will get you knowwhere fast

im not trying to take sides here

 

both seem like damn good solutions,but i didn`t want to cause any arguments,i will get under the car next weekend and see what condition the brake pipes are in to determine which way i will do it.
THANKS for your help

 

Don't be daft you didn't cause the argument

Seriously though, i urge you not to change the master cylinder for a smaller one, if you do though ill happily buy your 25mm one off you because i could do with one on mine, lets put it that way

 

ive got an s2 master cylinde lying about in an old s2 if your interested pm me

 

hmm, don't know if i did get this right... but to remove the abs.... u want us to change the MS from the 25mm to the 23mm?

 

thats what hes saying i know i wont be doing that

 

Correct

 

thats insane

 

I know

 

ever get the feeling you are going round and round and round and round and round in circles,i do

as i said above each to there own,thats my opinion so either do it one way or the other.

i wont be wasting anymore of my time with this subject as its geting very petty now,lol,lol,lol.

i know my way works and works well,i dont know why you are all disregarding it when obviously no one has tried it

End of..as far as im concerned lads.

 

no one is degrading it mate just seem a silly thing to do personally remove the bigger master cylinder for a smaller one nice looking car by the way