Glad you had a good day matey. Im also glad you gad no major faults.

 

Toby I think your right mate iv been thinking of this my self .

 

Thanks Glenn

 

Well as its ford fair this weekend we fort we best get some of the jobs done on the focos witch went well till I did a road test that when it all went very rong . All of a sudden it felt like the motor went very tight then that cleared but then straight away it started ticking so I got it home very sharpish . Well tonight we got the motor out tonight and started the strip down well it's spun the shells on number 3 con rod and started having a go at the center mane shells . It's killed one con rod and iv checked the crank and it's going to need a regrind but it's going to be OK as the manes are on .25 and the big ends are .00 so all being well it won't be long befor it's back togever photos tomorrow

 

Shame but but fixable for sensible money I suppose

Shame it won't be out at FordFair

 

It's just as well we now these motors so well and I have not got to send it in to be repaired . The crank is going in tomorrow for the regrind and we no the owner personally so it gets done for a very good price witch will help out as I'm having to spend a lot of Ł sorting out my XC90 Volvo

 

Glad it is not a biggy on the YB...I wonder why it spun up the shell?

 

Always good when you get a good deal on things like that,

I see your thread about the Volvo! real pain that, only problem with the modern stuff over the last 5-10 years and 1 of the reasons i went for the ford ranger truck i just bought as compared to alot of things its relatively simple to work on and fix but that never means it will be straightforward as we all know

 

I no wot your saying about these modded cars there a pain in the ass . I had to sort a new abs unit out for the car sorted that with BBA REMAN Ł460 😩
and you see them on ebay for Ł50/Ł100 and you think job done rong there coded to the car so Ł100 for unit from a Braker Ł30 to have it coded at the dealer only and one hours labour Ł90 so Ł220 but then it might not work still that's why these modern car are all a pain in the ass . My ABS unit is the same as ford fiesta jag bmw Aude and that just to start with . First time in my life iv tuck a car to a mane dealer it gutted me .
I was told last night of a chap payed Ł12000 for jeep one year later it got faults Ł4000 to sort it then sold it for Ł8000 now that's a right good kicking

 

removed from the motor not very good but all being well it won't be long befor it's all back togever again . With some improvements / Big wing sump / gated baffles in the sump / HP oil pump

 

Not good pal least you tuned it off before it fucked it propper pal

 

I think it had been going for some time as iv done mallory park two times the first time I did see the oil presser moving about a bit so I had been keeping a eye on it about 6 weeks later we did mallory park again only because it's just down the road from my partners house any way it did not seam to bad that time but saying that it was a colder day and I was not out on track as long each time as we kept having problems with boost pipes . Then come Bedford all good all day but I had said the car had a bad vibrashion at top end and it was struggling to push throw it so I was watching the oil presser as to be onist I fort this was coming . As it's only running a standerd pump
Cold 60 psi tick over
Hot 30 psi tick over
Hot 50 psi 2500 rpm
So you can see I now it's day was numbered
Still most of the part are in the post now on there way to me and the crank goes in today for the regrind

 

Bloody hell coley not.having much luck with motors.
I saw Rex at ford fair yesterday and he told me about your engine.
Was hoping to see you there.
Did you go?
Hopefully get a catch up soon.
Giz a shout if I can help you with anything

 

Thanks Dave it's been to long we need to meet up for a cuper soon

 

Kettle is always on for you mate

 

Spot on mate I'm having a play tonight cleaning stuff up . So I will give you a shout Wednesday or Thursday and have a catch up .
Rex is taking the crank in today for the regrind so that should be back next week some time . But no rush as iv got to build a Big wing sump for it befor it goes back to gever . As oil starveashion had a big part of this going Wong / mallory park

 

Big wing / baffled sump is a good shout for a track beast

 

Sounds like dry sump time. Its expensive but not if you are into this happening a few times & it will unless you bite the bullet. Wish you well with it but that's sound advice learned the hard way.

 

I talked to Mr Shead about this if I do the Ally block build and he said YES to big wing and no need for dry sump?

 

shame about the YB mate, hope its sorted soon! drove past the other night and saw you have a Fiesta outside, any plans with it?

 

Them shells are foooked. What a shame matey.

 

The fiesta is Rex,s lads Harry iv got to put sills and rear arches but apart from that not a lot the rest will be up to Rex

 

Hi mate it is a shame but with all the stick this motor gets its not surprising but it's a simple fix and I'm doing mods to help it in the futcher

 

A bit of a update time the motor is back togever now




The gearbox has had a good clean and repainted




The sump is all modded and tested and is fitted with a gated bathel








The engine bay is all most ready for the motor to go back I witch should be in the week all being well




And the fuel tank is back in as iv had some mods done to it as we did find some problems with it so it now runs a pump on the left and the right sides just some more pipe clamps to fit to it





And these should be at home when I get there Sunday

 

Looks great matey, do you hear much noise off the pumps being in the car?

 

3 fuel pumps?

Thats a really poor design, you need to just fit a proper collector. I've seen so many engines fail that rely on more than one fuel pump.

Make it work with just one.
If you need 2 to supply the fuel then you have too much risk if it running lean.

 

But if you had just one and it failed would it not run lean then?

 

No it would cut out. If the fuel pump stops or to the point where min fuel pressure cannot be delivered, with twin pumps you then lose 50% of your fueling, the other pump still works, instantly lean and melted.

 

Could you then run an alarm on fuel pressure or delivery? Mark Shead said he can cut the engine on low oil pressure, surely the same can be done on fuel or running lean?

Surely though if one pump drops to min fuel pressure then the same happens with two, after all it is about pressure and supply. Could one pump not supply 100% even if one fails?

 

Yes tou could, I have it on mine, sensor on the fuel rail.
If you are reliant on needing 2 then the problem will often occur at full chat mid corner, one pump drops out, lean mixture, one pump tried to keep up, with just one pump it the pump seizes or practically stops then (fuse should blow) car will cut out from no fuel.

 

On the Emtron you have fuel pressure control compensation and protection. Ideally you should have about a 20 to 30% safely margin in fuel supply and not more as all it does is heats the fuel and this can change the afr of the engine. So fuel temp monitoring is a very good and have the ecu compensate for it also.

Mark

 

It uses 1 pump to run the motor . it's got 2 pumps on the tank 1 left and 1 right they are both feeding a seporet tank witch is built onto the side of the mane tank . The mane tank has two bathels inside and is foam filled but two times I've done mallory park after about ten laps I would get a coff from the motor because it's all rights on that track . It's last outing at Bedford it was spot on so it was 100 % fuel starvation as the fuel was sitting over the one side of the tank and the scavenger pump was just sucking air

 

Ran 3 pump set up on mine and was perfect

Single to swirl pot from main tank
2 feeding the rail from the swirl pot

Looking good coley, let me know when you next do Mallory as might hopefully have the GTR by then and can come out with you

 

get engine back in Ian an get some miles on it

 

a garage full of spare supra diffs and GTR gearboxes looks just like mine. good to see its gettting put back together.

 

Be careful with fuel pumps sucking air as it will burn the pump out if doing it for long enough as they are not made for that.

Mark

 

Small update the motor is 100% finished and the gearbox is all bolted back

 

Looking good Ian, Much better to add the box on now than struggle with that heavy bugger underneath the car.

 

Size of that Box !!! Looks well Ian

 

I don't think I'd have reused that crank Ian