ZX10R turbo kit car build - update 10-08-13
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Cheers Austen.
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I'm looking forward to taking you out
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Had a quick run out the other day and blew off 20 quid of V-Power in 40 miles
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Here's a little update as it's been a while since anything has been posted in here.
I've had a new clutch puller pin made and yesterday I rebuilt the clutch using the EBC friction plates and heavy duty springs.
I have also refitted the weights and arms to the lockup clutch plate, so there is no reason why the clutch would slip while running the higher boost setting.
To overcome the issue of not being able to press the clutch in with the lockup clutch while the engine is doing high rpm's, I have invested in one of these
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http://www.flatshifter.com/flat-shifter-expert/
The Flatshifter Expert quickshifter provides effortless full or part throttle clutchless upshifts and auto throttle blipped downshifts without using the clutch, so the car should be a real pleasure to drive once I get this kit strapped on, it should make it a tad quicker on track too according to Flatshifters claims.
I've had a new clutch puller pin made and yesterday I rebuilt the clutch using the EBC friction plates and heavy duty springs.
I have also refitted the weights and arms to the lockup clutch plate, so there is no reason why the clutch would slip while running the higher boost setting.
To overcome the issue of not being able to press the clutch in with the lockup clutch while the engine is doing high rpm's, I have invested in one of these
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http://www.flatshifter.com/flat-shifter-expert/
The Flatshifter Expert quickshifter provides effortless full or part throttle clutchless upshifts and auto throttle blipped downshifts without using the clutch, so the car should be a real pleasure to drive once I get this kit strapped on, it should make it a tad quicker on track too according to Flatshifters claims.
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Last edited by Red16; 31-12-2011 at 09:43 AM.
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Very nice build mate keep at it with the clutch . I did sidecar moto cross and one of the tricks we all did was put a one more steal plate in the centre of the clutch which made it stonger . Pluss the gearing can all so be played with to help this problem by putting one or two teeth on the rear . Less strain on the motor/clutch faster pick up but slower top end . Just a thort to your problem
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Here's a little update as it's been a while since anything has been posted in here.
I've had a new clutch puller pin made and yesterday I rebuilt the clutch using the EBC friction plates and heavy duty springs.
I have also refitted the weights and arms to the lockup clutch plate, so there is no reason why the clutch would slip while running the higher boost setting.
To overcome the issue of not being able to press the clutch in with the lockup clutch while the engine is doing high rpm's, I have invested in one of these
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Red16/Mac%20Worx%20RR%20Build/FlatshifterExpertMedium.jpg)
http://www.flatshifter.com/flat-shifter-expert/
The Flatshifter Expert quickshifter provides effortless full or part throttle clutchless upshifts and auto throttle blipped downshifts without using the clutch, so the car should be a real pleasure to drive once I get this kit strapped on, it should make it a tad quicker on track too according to Flatshifters claims.![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
I've had a new clutch puller pin made and yesterday I rebuilt the clutch using the EBC friction plates and heavy duty springs.
I have also refitted the weights and arms to the lockup clutch plate, so there is no reason why the clutch would slip while running the higher boost setting.
To overcome the issue of not being able to press the clutch in with the lockup clutch while the engine is doing high rpm's, I have invested in one of these
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Red16/Mac%20Worx%20RR%20Build/FlatshifterExpertMedium.jpg)
http://www.flatshifter.com/flat-shifter-expert/
The Flatshifter Expert quickshifter provides effortless full or part throttle clutchless upshifts and auto throttle blipped downshifts without using the clutch, so the car should be a real pleasure to drive once I get this kit strapped on, it should make it a tad quicker on track too according to Flatshifters claims.
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Very nice build mate keep at it with the clutch . I did sidecar moto cross and one of the tricks we all did was put a one more steal plate in the centre of the clutch which made it stonger . Pluss the gearing can all so be played with to help this problem by putting one or two teeth on the rear . Less strain on the motor/clutch faster pick up but slower top end . Just a thort to your problem
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To be honest it's not difficult to build a kit car, you just need to make sure you have enough free money to be able to regularly buy parts and in turn this will allow you to progress at a decent rate and keep yourself interested in the project. Everyone I know who has built a kit car has had their lull in enthusiasm while building them, but you hit milestones, like engine in, engine running, car on wheels for the first time etc throughout the build which kick start your motivation again.
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I've found out that with a passenger in the car I'm a shade slower than a mates 154bhp @wheeel GSXR1000 through the gears... not bad I suppose
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Finally fitted the Flatshifter Expert kit yesterday, tested it in the garage and the blipper worked a treat, with the engine at idle changing up and down the gears without the clutch was easy, if a little jerky, but the fitting instructions mentioned this.
I've been out in the car today, first drive with the Flatshifter on the car, going up through the gears is so quick it's fantastic!
changing down the gears while carrying reasonable speed is silky smooth, at lower speeds it's not quite perfect but this can be fine tuned to your personal preference.
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The car's booked in on Monday for a mapping session at Daytuner in Harrogate, a set of NGK Laser Iridium spark plugs and a Power Commander ignition module to be fitted and maybe a touch more boost, maybe up to 15psi (1 bar)... wonder what numbers she makes?
I've been out in the car today, first drive with the Flatshifter on the car, going up through the gears is so quick it's fantastic!
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All in all i'm a happy man
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The car's booked in on Monday for a mapping session at Daytuner in Harrogate, a set of NGK Laser Iridium spark plugs and a Power Commander ignition module to be fitted and maybe a touch more boost, maybe up to 15psi (1 bar)... wonder what numbers she makes?
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Cheers mate
A few people have mentioned they've seen me today, suppose the car stands out a little bit, I was only out about 45 minutes, it was a bit too cold!
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It was high time the horrid ratchet strap over the inlet manifold was removed, so without further ado it was taken off.
The motor/position sensor was also removed from the throttle bodies secondary butterflies, this made a nice space to allow some straps to be fitted to secure the inlet manifold down.
Some aluminium strips were cut, bent and drilled, once fitted to the engine they look like this
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Looking at those last two photos, the wiring and vacuum hoses need some tidying because they look a right mess.
As agreed with Damien at Daytuner, the Power Commander has been fitted to the car but not connected up, that will be carried out when I get there.
Oil and water levels checked, tank filled up with V-Power, crash helmet and warm clothing sorted, that's me set for the trip out tomorrow... fingers crossed the weathers good and the results are even better!
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It was high time the horrid ratchet strap over the inlet manifold was removed, so without further ado it was taken off.
The motor/position sensor was also removed from the throttle bodies secondary butterflies, this made a nice space to allow some straps to be fitted to secure the inlet manifold down.
Some aluminium strips were cut, bent and drilled, once fitted to the engine they look like this
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Looking at those last two photos, the wiring and vacuum hoses need some tidying because they look a right mess.
As agreed with Damien at Daytuner, the Power Commander has been fitted to the car but not connected up, that will be carried out when I get there.
Oil and water levels checked, tank filled up with V-Power, crash helmet and warm clothing sorted, that's me set for the trip out tomorrow... fingers crossed the weathers good and the results are even better!
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It's just shy of 80 miles door to door, so shouldn't take too long to get there.
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Here she is strapped on the rollers at Daytuner Performance
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Power Commander Ignition Module connected up and then fueling/timing adjusted on low boost, the end result 198bhp/101lbft@wheels (iirc), waiting on the graphs being emailed to me, when I get them i'll post them up.
The power is about 10% down on what was measured at BigCC, don't know if that's just purely down to discrepencies between the difference rolling roads, but the car runs and drives a lot better since being tweaked with the ignition module.
The problems began when trying to map high boost, the manual boost controller seemed to be acting up and not controlling boost, meaning it wasn't making any decent power at the top end of the rev range, so the plan is to buy an electronic boost controller and go back to complete the mapping.
At the moment the one i'm liking the look of is the Turbosmart E-Boost Street, anyone got any experience with them?
Here's a little video clip to demonstrate what low boost goes like
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Power Commander Ignition Module connected up and then fueling/timing adjusted on low boost, the end result 198bhp/101lbft@wheels (iirc), waiting on the graphs being emailed to me, when I get them i'll post them up.
The power is about 10% down on what was measured at BigCC, don't know if that's just purely down to discrepencies between the difference rolling roads, but the car runs and drives a lot better since being tweaked with the ignition module.
The problems began when trying to map high boost, the manual boost controller seemed to be acting up and not controlling boost, meaning it wasn't making any decent power at the top end of the rev range, so the plan is to buy an electronic boost controller and go back to complete the mapping.
At the moment the one i'm liking the look of is the Turbosmart E-Boost Street, anyone got any experience with them?
Here's a little video clip to demonstrate what low boost goes like
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Cheers... roll on the next PF meet
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It is pretty quick, it's even more impressive on the way down the box
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Thanks, it is quite a bit of fun
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This afternoon I bought an electronic boost controller, the Turbosmart E-Boost Street, from Motorsport Developments ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Now i need a 4psi or 6psi spring for the wastegate and something to replace my 52mm boost gauge.
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Now i need a 4psi or 6psi spring for the wastegate and something to replace my 52mm boost gauge.
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Took delivery of the boost controller at lunch time, very impressed with the service received from Motorsport Developments, under 24 hours from ordering to receiving the goods, thanks a lot lads ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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As there are quite a few kit cars on here now, it'd be good to get them together sometime in the summer for a grudge match (arsing about) style meet/event.
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As there are quite a few kit cars on here now, it'd be good to get them together sometime in the summer for a grudge match (arsing about) style meet/event.
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The electronic boost controller is now fitted and seems to be working nicely, the lower boost set point is programmed up and it is holding 8.5psi on the low setting.
Unfortunately the setting up of the boost controller was cut short as I've encountered a problem which I think may be tranmission related. While driving the car there is a noise which sounds like something rattling around inside the engine, this noise is non existant if the car is sat at idle, the clutch is fully functional and the car drives ok (if the noise was not present).
So without further ado I've pulled the engine out of the car
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The engine was turned upside down and the sump removed, some metallic particles were found in the sump
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More metallic particles evident on the sump gasket
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With the oil pickup and clutch cover removed the engine looks like this
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With the engine in it's current state of stripdown I've not been able to identify where the damaged part is or where the bits of metal have come from, I should know more when the clutch basket and transmission shafts are removed.
Wish me luck
Unfortunately the setting up of the boost controller was cut short as I've encountered a problem which I think may be tranmission related. While driving the car there is a noise which sounds like something rattling around inside the engine, this noise is non existant if the car is sat at idle, the clutch is fully functional and the car drives ok (if the noise was not present).
So without further ado I've pulled the engine out of the car
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The engine was turned upside down and the sump removed, some metallic particles were found in the sump
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More metallic particles evident on the sump gasket
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With the oil pickup and clutch cover removed the engine looks like this
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With the engine in it's current state of stripdown I've not been able to identify where the damaged part is or where the bits of metal have come from, I should know more when the clutch basket and transmission shafts are removed.
Wish me luck
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