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Old 04-11-2011, 06:13 PM
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wounded it snapped mate ,


trial n error i guess ,



looking good now , super excited about it almost being ready lol !!
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
EN24T will definatly be up to the job. Can you not add more of a radius on the undercut where tue old one sheared?
A radius would definitely add strength, but without the lockup clutch arms being used it should be fine the way it is. When the lockup is used with a good amount of weight on the arms you can't pull the clutch in at high revs/speed, hence how the previous puller pins were damaged, this is why i'd rather get the clutch to grip without having to resort to using the lockup setup.

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Nice project
Cheers Austen. do you still have your Westy?

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wounded it snapped mate ,

trial n error i guess ,

looking good now , super excited about it almost being ready lol !!
Yeah me too, but shit happens, it's easily sorted so it's not the end of the world, just annoying as the number of nice days left this year is dwindling away!

I'm looking forward to taking you out not in a gay way though

Had a quick run out the other day and blew off 20 quid of V-Power in 40 miles
Old 05-11-2011, 10:56 PM
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Great,

How does the rear rad get its airflow?
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Originally Posted by wide ka
How does the rear rad get its airflow?
The boot floor is not panelled off with a diffuser, so the boot area collects a lot of air from the wheel arches and floor area, the three fans on the rad just help draw it through a bit, especially when slow moving/stationary.
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A very interesting read... And a truly stunning machine.
Old 31-12-2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rsmat
A very interesting read... And a truly stunning machine.
Cheers Mat
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Here's a little update as it's been a while since anything has been posted in here.

I've had a new clutch puller pin made and yesterday I rebuilt the clutch using the EBC friction plates and heavy duty springs.

I have also refitted the weights and arms to the lockup clutch plate, so there is no reason why the clutch would slip while running the higher boost setting.

To overcome the issue of not being able to press the clutch in with the lockup clutch while the engine is doing high rpm's, I have invested in one of these

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http://www.flatshifter.com/flat-shifter-expert/

The Flatshifter Expert quickshifter provides effortless full or part throttle clutchless upshifts and auto throttle blipped downshifts without using the clutch, so the car should be a real pleasure to drive once I get this kit strapped on, it should make it a tad quicker on track too according to Flatshifters claims.

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Old 31-12-2011, 10:30 AM
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that looks a cool piece of kit mate,the cars well rapid already,im sure i mentioned a quick shifter on our little ride out
Old 02-01-2012, 10:39 AM
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keep em comeing!
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Very nice build mate keep at it with the clutch . I did sidecar moto cross and one of the tricks we all did was put a one more steal plate in the centre of the clutch which made it stonger . Pluss the gearing can all so be played with to help this problem by putting one or two teeth on the rear . Less strain on the motor/clutch faster pick up but slower top end . Just a thort to your problem
Old 02-01-2012, 01:02 PM
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Well done mate you've created a monster!

I've just read the whole thread start to finish, attention to detail is outrageous!

I would love to have enough knowledge and time to build something like this.



CheeRS!

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Originally Posted by Red16
Here's a little update as it's been a while since anything has been posted in here.

I've had a new clutch puller pin made and yesterday I rebuilt the clutch using the EBC friction plates and heavy duty springs.

I have also refitted the weights and arms to the lockup clutch plate, so there is no reason why the clutch would slip while running the higher boost setting.

To overcome the issue of not being able to press the clutch in with the lockup clutch while the engine is doing high rpm's, I have invested in one of these



http://www.flatshifter.com/flat-shifter-expert/

The Flatshifter Expert quickshifter provides effortless full or part throttle clutchless upshifts and auto throttle blipped downshifts without using the clutch, so the car should be a real pleasure to drive once I get this kit strapped on, it should make it a tad quicker on track too according to Flatshifters claims.
did you get this fitted mate?seen/heard you out in it this afternoon.
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Originally Posted by cozzy jeff
that looks a cool piece of kit mate,the cars well rapid already,im sure i mentioned a quick shifter on our little ride out
Yeah I think you did mention it

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keep em comeing!
Will do

Originally Posted by COLEYST200
Very nice build mate keep at it with the clutch . I did sidecar moto cross and one of the tricks we all did was put a one more steal plate in the centre of the clutch which made it stonger . Pluss the gearing can all so be played with to help this problem by putting one or two teeth on the rear . Less strain on the motor/clutch faster pick up but slower top end . Just a thort to your problem
Cheers for the info but I can't alter the gearing that way as it's now driven through a propshaft not a chain and sprockets, I wish it was as simple as that to change my gearing though.

Originally Posted by big hyndy
Well done mate you've created a monster!

I've just read the whole thread start to finish, attention to detail is outrageous!

I would love to have enough knowledge and time to build something like this.
Cheers

To be honest it's not difficult to build a kit car, you just need to make sure you have enough free money to be able to regularly buy parts and in turn this will allow you to progress at a decent rate and keep yourself interested in the project. Everyone I know who has built a kit car has had their lull in enthusiasm while building them, but you hit milestones, like engine in, engine running, car on wheels for the first time etc throughout the build which kick start your motivation again.

Originally Posted by cozzy jeff
did you get this fitted mate?seen/heard you out in it this afternoon.
Not got round to fitting it yet mate but I have been out playing in it this afternoon, staring through the living room window into the street it looked dry but when I got out on the main roads it was very damp/slippy, not to mention bastard cold!

I've found out that with a passenger in the car I'm a shade slower than a mates 154bhp @wheeel GSXR1000 through the gears... not bad I suppose
Old 21-01-2012, 04:39 PM
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Finally fitted the Flatshifter Expert kit yesterday, tested it in the garage and the blipper worked a treat, with the engine at idle changing up and down the gears without the clutch was easy, if a little jerky, but the fitting instructions mentioned this.

I've been out in the car today, first drive with the Flatshifter on the car, going up through the gears is so quick it's fantastic! changing down the gears while carrying reasonable speed is silky smooth, at lower speeds it's not quite perfect but this can be fine tuned to your personal preference.

All in all i'm a happy man

The car's booked in on Monday for a mapping session at Daytuner in Harrogate, a set of NGK Laser Iridium spark plugs and a Power Commander ignition module to be fitted and maybe a touch more boost, maybe up to 15psi (1 bar)... wonder what numbers she makes?
Old 21-01-2012, 07:56 PM
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i did see you going up john reid road this afternoon,glad to here alls going well now.
Old 21-01-2012, 08:14 PM
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Cheers mate A few people have mentioned they've seen me today, suppose the car stands out a little bit, I was only out about 45 minutes, it was a bit too cold!
Old 21-01-2012, 08:27 PM
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Total weapon this little thing mate nice one
Old 22-01-2012, 06:25 PM
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Cheers Carlo

It was high time the horrid ratchet strap over the inlet manifold was removed, so without further ado it was taken off.

The motor/position sensor was also removed from the throttle bodies secondary butterflies, this made a nice space to allow some straps to be fitted to secure the inlet manifold down.

Some aluminium strips were cut, bent and drilled, once fitted to the engine they look like this

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Looking at those last two photos, the wiring and vacuum hoses need some tidying because they look a right mess.

As agreed with Damien at Daytuner, the Power Commander has been fitted to the car but not connected up, that will be carried out when I get there.

Oil and water levels checked, tank filled up with V-Power, crash helmet and warm clothing sorted, that's me set for the trip out tomorrow... fingers crossed the weathers good and the results are even better!
Old 22-01-2012, 06:32 PM
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looks cool mate,good luck tomorrow should'nt take you long to get home eh!
how longs the journey?
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Nice work, have a good drive out, be careful with slippery roads I bet it lights the rear wheels with ease.

Regads andy.
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Originally Posted by cozzy jeff
looks cool mate,good luck tomorrow should'nt take you long to get home eh!
how longs the journey?
Thanks jeff, i'll let you know how it goes.

It's just shy of 80 miles door to door, so shouldn't take too long to get there.

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Nice work, have a good drive out, be careful with slippery roads I bet it lights the rear wheels with ease.

Regads andy.
Cheers Andy with the slippery roads you've got to give it your full attention, the biggest problem this time of year is the fact that your out in the open and freezing your balls off! roll on the summer
Old 23-01-2012, 12:18 AM
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Great build mate, looks good!
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A very nice car sir! Ill be keeping an eye on it for more updates!!
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glad the flatshifters working for you give us a report when youve been out on the road! straps look much better!
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Here she is strapped on the rollers at Daytuner Performance

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Power Commander Ignition Module connected up and then fueling/timing adjusted on low boost, the end result 198bhp/101lbft@wheels (iirc), waiting on the graphs being emailed to me, when I get them i'll post them up.

The power is about 10% down on what was measured at BigCC, don't know if that's just purely down to discrepencies between the difference rolling roads, but the car runs and drives a lot better since being tweaked with the ignition module.

The problems began when trying to map high boost, the manual boost controller seemed to be acting up and not controlling boost, meaning it wasn't making any decent power at the top end of the rev range, so the plan is to buy an electronic boost controller and go back to complete the mapping.

At the moment the one i'm liking the look of is the Turbosmart E-Boost Street, anyone got any experience with them?

Here's a little video clip to demonstrate what low boost goes like

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glad you got there and back ok mate,from the vid it sounds like the gear change is sorted now.you must be well happy with that hp figure on low boost.
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im getting excited now lol ŹŹŹ



looking awesome fella !!
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fast gear change!
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The video is awesome mate!

That sounds like an awesome ride!
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Originally Posted by cozzy jeff
glad you got there and back ok mate,from the vid it sounds like the gear change is sorted now.you must be well happy with that hp figure on low boost.
It was a canny day out, bloody freezing on the way there though, not to mention slippery on the roads! I was a little disappointed on the figure as it was lower than the figure recorded at BigCC, even though it now has an ignition module fitted, so tweaked timing, not sure if it's a discrepency between the two rolling roads or what, but it drives a lot better now

Originally Posted by -beefy-
im getting excited now lol ŹŹŹ

looking awesome fella !!
Cheers... roll on the next PF meet

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fast gear change!
It is pretty quick, it's even more impressive on the way down the box

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The video is awesome mate!

That sounds like an awesome ride!
Thanks, it is quite a bit of fun
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This afternoon I bought an electronic boost controller, the Turbosmart E-Boost Street, from Motorsport Developments



http://shop.motorsport-developments....ler-299-p.asp#

Now i need a 4psi or 6psi spring for the wastegate and something to replace my 52mm boost gauge.
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Took delivery of the boost controller at lunch time, very impressed with the service received from Motorsport Developments, under 24 hours from ordering to receiving the goods, thanks a lot lads

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AWESOME READ! love the car, love the colour
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Cheers Lee

As there are quite a few kit cars on here now, it'd be good to get them together sometime in the summer for a grudge match (arsing about) style meet/event.
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Msd are brilliant the service is superb!!
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Originally Posted by Gary_Hurn
Msd are brilliant the service is superb!!
It's the first time I've dealt with them and I'd have no problem at all about going back for more parts etc.
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Here are a couple of videos from the mapping session at Daytuner Performance

Video 1 with a little flame



Video 2 with a few more flames

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Quality super little car
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The electronic boost controller is now fitted and seems to be working nicely, the lower boost set point is programmed up and it is holding 8.5psi on the low setting.

Unfortunately the setting up of the boost controller was cut short as I've encountered a problem which I think may be tranmission related. While driving the car there is a noise which sounds like something rattling around inside the engine, this noise is non existant if the car is sat at idle, the clutch is fully functional and the car drives ok (if the noise was not present).

So without further ado I've pulled the engine out of the car

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The engine was turned upside down and the sump removed, some metallic particles were found in the sump

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More metallic particles evident on the sump gasket

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With the oil pickup and clutch cover removed the engine looks like this

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With the engine in it's current state of stripdown I've not been able to identify where the damaged part is or where the bits of metal have come from, I should know more when the clutch basket and transmission shafts are removed.

Wish me luck
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Originally Posted by Red16

Wish me luck
Good luck mate


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