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Old 12-02-2004, 07:04 PM
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Default My 2.1 Zetec Turbo 16v Build

Got most parts together now, just waiting on some machining and i'll take pics and do a "diary" of the engine build as we go

Heres a few parts;


Nice Rover 820 inlet manifold....side entry so no boost pipes accross the rocker cover, also port shape is almost exactly the same as the zetecs, (as opposed to using a CVH EFi inlet where the port shape is wildly different). Will be modded to accept an EECIV throttle body soon, I will ahve to CAD & Laser Cut a few plates to allow it to fit, no worries


3 Layer Metal "WRC" type Headgasket.


86mm Mahle Forged Pistons, will be fitted to standard, but shot peened Zetec E conrods


More pics soon as soon as i pickup the block, exh manifold adapter plate, rover inlet adapter plate, rocker cover etc.
Old 13-02-2004, 09:26 AM
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cmon get some more up
Old 13-02-2004, 03:18 PM
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how much power are you going for m8
Old 13-02-2004, 03:54 PM
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Aim is 270bhp
Old 13-02-2004, 03:56 PM
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3 layer WRC style headgasket? So standard Zetec one then

Looks good - any chance it'll be finished anytime soon?
Old 13-02-2004, 04:08 PM
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Aye Rich Focus 2000

Gotta pick the block up from the machinists early next week, so will start the build propperly then
Old 16-02-2004, 09:30 AM
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What are they doing to the block?
Old 16-02-2004, 09:49 AM
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What are they doing to the block?
Boring it out i'd imagine
Old 16-02-2004, 04:36 PM
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Reading up on Phils projects, this will be most powerful rs turbio in the world cause by ther time he builds it, this will be the only rs turbo in the world. This project will have been runing that long they will have to use carbon dating to verify when it started

Get this built for once and all
Old 16-02-2004, 05:49 PM
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Yep, as PJay said, its away being bored and honed

Tony.....fuck off

Management is fitted to the car now, just waiting for the block to arrive back (now been told end of this week ) and i'll get it started.

Gives me a few days to get the adapter plate to fit my rover inlet to my head to be CADd and Laser Cut
Old 16-02-2004, 06:21 PM
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Lookin good Phil ,

Did u get my PM about them pistons mate ?????????????????????????
Old 16-02-2004, 08:00 PM
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Cheers Lee, umm, have now!

Will ring you tommorow mate!
Old 16-02-2004, 08:12 PM
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cheers pal , i take it u dont get the pop up box to say you have PM to ?????

very confusing
Old 16-02-2004, 09:46 PM
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Not seen it.

My missus uses my laptop (with PF set as homepage), so any tiem she opens IE, it opens PF, probably saw it, and just closed the window without looking (or telling me)
Old 17-02-2004, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PJay
What are they doing to the block?
Boring it out i'd imagine
i figured that,
Old 19-02-2004, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiestasi-Andy
Originally Posted by PJay
What are they doing to the block?
Boring it out i'd imagine
i figured that,
OK so there probably boring it out to 86mm AND drilling it for an oil return, is that better?

PHIL, you not nailed this engine together yet lol
Old 19-02-2004, 09:37 PM
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shold be a goodun matey

started to fit my management today aswell
Old 20-02-2004, 10:53 AM
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Phil,

How much was the Head Gasket and where from??

Good luck with the engine build.

Also it don't look like it has any compression rings. Are you going for a wire rung block???

Matt.

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Are you going for a wire rung block???
wire rung block stil requires rings and it's up to phil if he wants to tel you where they come from
Old 21-02-2004, 06:31 PM
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Thanks folks, the gasket is from Ford About Ł28 i think (FINIS: 1105772).

Block is still at the machine shop (only a 2man band, and one of them is on the sick...they are very busy, doh ...the quality is well worth the wait though).

Heres a few pics of my PUKKA cam cover Big thanks to Craig N for sorting it out, its awesome, metalic Cadury purple, pics really dont do it justice, the flek is actually much finer and less noticable than it appears in the picture, lovely blue/purple flip.....wont stay clean for long, lol.






More pics soon as i sort my inlet (and adapter plates), etc, block back early next week as are pistons n rods.....
Old 21-02-2004, 06:38 PM
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Not sure about the purple but the finish is spot on
Old 23-02-2004, 11:30 AM
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i like it alot
Old 23-02-2004, 09:20 PM
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Phil mayteeeee. Thats is just $hit h0t!!!!!
Gonna b a MONSTER Good luck with the engine assembly
Old 24-02-2004, 05:14 PM
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Cheers people

Ive done a little more work on the head/inlet side of things....


Take the previously mentioned Rover 820 manifold and chop the end off...why? Because it looks shit. No reason I can see why you cant keep it and use the rover TB, may foul the coilpack, but ive not looked!


Using a gasket as a guide, make up a nice ally plate to be welded onto the end of the plenum, for moutning our throttle body


Rape a friend/neighbours/strangers fiesta inlet manifold. Steal the Throttle Body and the Fuel Pressure Regulator.


As you can see, the Rover Reg (on the left) is non adjustable, therefore we use the FRST's Weber adjustable regulator


Not all plain sailing though, the mounting bracket is different between Rover/Weber, luckily, the Rover fuel rail has a nice big block of ally we can drill and tap into to mount the Weber item


Why people use FRST inlet manifolds on Zetecs I dont know, check the nicely matching port shapes


This is why we use the Rover manifold

Hope this helps some of you lot as I know theres a few of you doing the same thing, or plan to do the same thing...will update soon when I get my block back (onday, maybe, never ....the quality is worth waiting for! )

Old 24-02-2004, 05:17 PM
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so whne your housemate goes mental about the mess chill her out and ill come over and let her smoke my piece

can i nob her yet
Old 24-02-2004, 05:35 PM
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ROLFMAO @ Craig, dude, shes a skanky ho, your welcome to her

Few nice scratches in her nice table, carpet is covered in swarf from the inlet manifold too now....ahwell....

Shame we dont have a dishwasher, else i'd do a RichM and bung everything in for a quick clean...love to see her face then
Old 25-02-2004, 07:19 AM
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Phil- that is gona sweet as matey!!
Think ive got an engine sorted for mine now, so no doubt ill be bothering you with loads of questions ove the next few months lol!!
Old 25-02-2004, 07:56 AM
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nice assortment of goodies Phil.
Old 25-02-2004, 06:57 PM
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Phil- that is gona sweet as matey!!
Think ive got an engine sorted for mine now, so no doubt ill be bothering you with loads of questions ove the next few months lol!!



ditto....! only i started hassling a while ago lol!
Old 25-02-2004, 11:47 PM
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the rover throttle body if left on the plenum will foul the coilpack Phil - big time
Old 25-02-2004, 11:57 PM
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Thought it might Rich
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more picies please
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Keep up the good work mate!
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Good thread Phil.

270 BHP in a front wheel drive car.......

Plenty of torque steer wrist action and tyre smoke then !!!!

Cant wait to see it work....

What (Cough Cough Cough) management are you using ?
Old 26-02-2004, 11:59 AM
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Thanks Simon

My ECU:


Management will be SECS S8 .....currently fitted to my car, its the tits dont ya know .

Hopefuly to take advantage of the Antilag on it (haha, in a FWD car ), propper mapping, propper trick ECU, works well with my mix and match of EECIV sensors, Coilpack and Cosworth low impedance injectors. Biggest thing the ECU has that will really benefit my car I think is the closed loop boost control, mapable Hopefully it'll make our lives easier trying to put the power down

Was gunna wait until I had a picture (I lost the ones I took at your office ), but since you asked
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A peek inside your ECU box for you Phil.......
(Sorry about picture quality - I took it with my phone)

Old 26-02-2004, 06:04 PM
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Keep up the good work mate

Keep the pics cumin


Hope it makes all the power u want out of it



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ALS- yum yum
Phil- do you know at what point the vauxhall pistons start to reach their limit in terms of boost/power??, and what alternatives are there- can find JE, and Ross but only in the states!!
cheers matey!
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Cheers lads, wiill post a few more pics tommorow, have my block back now....and a pic in 5mins of my Zetec Exh Man Adapter plate

Rolls....buy from the states, the exchange rate is MINT

Also, if you buy US ones, you MUST use Focus Zetec R rods, due to their "zetec" pistons being for the focus engine.
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Heres one of todays purchases, will post the rest of this pics tommorow....


Adapter plate to allow fitment of a CVH exhaust manifold onto a Zetec head without drilling into the head


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