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Old 03-06-2008, 10:17 PM
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good god don't use that spolier!!


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Originally Posted by Graceland
Well since its not bolted on and only sat on the boot lid at the moment, then fitting can be well, avoided and proffit can be made from ebay..........maybe
Good man, loving everything up to now! Keep it up
Old 04-06-2008, 05:03 PM
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What a day today has been. Up at 8am and into the garage at 8:30 Plenty more electrics done today too.

The first job was to populate the fuse/relay board with the fuse bases and relay bases and fit the board into place.



A little closer



And now the first 2 wires are firmly home



Soon to be followed by a few more



The main feed distribution block was fitted into place and the main feed cable was also fitted too. This was the block I used on my old Cossie to make the battery terminal a little less busy - so was a good keep



The main fuse was also fitted too - £1.85 off ebay complete with 60A fuse - bargain



A few more wires later and its starting to get a bit busier in the fusebox ......




Meanwhile, the metal for my rollcage arrived - £63 delivered - good value



Which was soon bent into shape to form the A-C main roll hoops - These will be gusseted for strength.



After all that, the postman eventually arrived with my rather expensive Siemens VDO Gauges - 80mm and they are tacho and speedo.



So I took the opprtunity to fit the rest of the gauges - these arn't overly brilliant, but cheap (£80 for all 5) and should do the job. they are (from left to right)

Oil temp, Oil Pressure, Coolant Temp, Voltage, Fuel Gauge (a modified Oil Temp gauge - does the job )



All in all, not a bad days work at all
Old 04-06-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Graceland



whats that?
Old 04-06-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Minirotty
whats that?

A piece of tubeular steel - hopefully, if I have done my sums correctly, it will magically transform into a rollcage upon the addition of Argon, 0.8mm wire, electricity and some more tube
Old 04-06-2008, 05:15 PM
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Looking good mate.

As said on MSN, them cheap gauges look suprisingly good.
Old 04-06-2008, 05:15 PM
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Paul, You can't use that, It'll fail god for bid something happens!


Old 04-06-2008, 05:17 PM
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I had EXACLEY the same thought Rad -hence going to gusset the bends. Also the bends are weld points anywy for other parts of the cage, so the srength should hopefully be there.

I should of bought a propper mandrel pipe bender
Old 04-06-2008, 05:38 PM
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u need to start again with your thoughts on the cage IMO

Looks truly awful

If its on a budget Im sure some one here could bend them for a small price.
Old 04-06-2008, 05:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure they could, but I just don't have the facilities to transport 6m lengths of steel..........
Old 04-06-2008, 05:45 PM
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If you can weld, fill the steel tube with sand , weld up either end of the tube and then bend the tubing and remove the sand

tried and tested way of stopping the tube cave in.
Old 04-06-2008, 05:49 PM
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I had thought of that as it happens aswell, but after I had bent the metal

I still have a length left to give it a go with as it happens.......
Old 04-06-2008, 05:49 PM
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I used a pipe bender the same style as yours and managed to make decent bends in my last cage, no offence meant but i dont know how you have managed to do that to it.
Old 04-06-2008, 05:51 PM
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Maybe the die I was using is the wrong size, it said 50mm on the side and thats what the material is.

Out of interest, what size material is your cage made out of?
Old 04-06-2008, 06:01 PM
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think its 50mm aswell, did the die fit snuggly over the tube? what sort of radius was it? the one i used was maybe 8 inches end to end? maybe more maybe less, can't quite remember but it was pretty big
Old 04-06-2008, 06:03 PM
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Wow really coming on this.
Old 04-06-2008, 06:04 PM
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The pipe fit in the tube but with a couple of mm either side of it, its a big bugger, 6" minimum end to end definately.

I'll have a try with the welded end and bag of sand tomorrow :king;
Old 04-06-2008, 06:11 PM
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does the rev counter read high enough gracie, mine revs to 7600, yours can't be far off?

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Old 04-06-2008, 06:12 PM
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Paul please throw that bent bit of tube away

Or at least weigh it back in.
Old 04-06-2008, 06:20 PM
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Bryan - 8000rpm is plenty high enough

Tony - I intend on doing so
Old 04-06-2008, 06:21 PM
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Infact, I weill use that tube as a bending template - as its the correct shape
Old 04-06-2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Infact, I weill use that tube as a bending template - as its the correct shape


good news
Old 04-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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Use the unbent bits as something else - maybe a seat mounting back rail - or rear harness bars on the back cage etc

Don't just waste it
Old 04-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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Get some kiln dried sand in there paul, youll have NO air gaps at all with that and it should bend lovelly Least ya having a go yourself pal
Old 04-06-2008, 06:34 PM
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pipe is measured using the inner diameter, tube is measured using the outside diameter that'll be why the die doesn't fit properly. Those benders are no good for thin walled tube though you might have some success with the sand method.
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Cheers boys - the metal will definately not be wasted - I DON'T waste stuff

Anyway, comments on the fuse/relay box - would be nice to hear what people think to it
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Originally Posted by Jamz
pipe is measured using the inner diameter, tube is measured using the outside diameter that'll be why the die doesn't fit properly. Those benders are no good for thin walled tube though you might have some success with the sand method.

That explains it then - I thought I had bought the wrong material when it didn't fit
Old 04-06-2008, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Anyway, comments on the fuse/relay box - would be nice to hear what people think to it
fuse box is stunning, think i'm going to do similar myself when i re wire the mini
Old 04-06-2008, 06:50 PM
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good luck with your next cage attempt fusebox and dash looks good
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dont use the spoiler for fucksake brian

pipe looks fuct but as someones already stated least your having a go
Old 04-06-2008, 06:55 PM
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I'd be really interested to see what you can do with the sand, I've been looking at benders(!) for a while and the only decent ones available are in the states. We only seem to get those pipe benders over here
I toyed with the idea of making my own but getting a proper die and guide made would cost a fortune.

Have a look at http://www.jd2.com/ and http://www.pro-tools.com/
Old 04-06-2008, 06:59 PM
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Them Yank benders () look amazing - why don't they sell stuff like that over here?
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Fuse board looks fantastic Paul. Its all looking good thats why its a shame to spoil it with the kinks and that spoiler!
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Fuse board looks fantastic Paul. Its all looking good thats why its a shame to spoil it with the kinks and that spoiler!
Listen to him Paul!
Old 04-06-2008, 09:50 PM
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Good work mate, could have drilled the holes in the fusebox in a straight line though!

A smaller OEM spoiler will be just as effective and better looking I reckon Paul, also keep at it with the cage, you'll get the hang of it! Fair play for having a go!
Old 05-06-2008, 03:00 AM
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The cage isn't looking so good as you know, but it's all good practice. Better than anything I could do; practice makes perfect. Everything else is great.

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Right, what a fucking sore point the cage has become now

Went down to Wicks, bag of kiln dried sand for £1.39 - sorted. Filled one of the tubes up and had a go at bending with the sand in and caps welded on - no joy at all Still did the same kink on the inside

Anyway, on a brighter note, I finished the dashboard off, just need to wire it in (once my cable arrives) and then thats the electrics nearly complete





And with the steerywheel in place



To say I'm proud of myself is little understatement
Old 05-06-2008, 11:56 AM
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Don't look bad at all!
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Looks cool that.
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how come you didnt go for fuseable relays.

looks pretty cool though


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