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Old 11-03-2006, 09:54 AM
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Default has any1 got any decent vids with wastegate chatter/flutter.

ive searched the boards but all the results that come back are old and the files are gone

has any1 got any please?
Old 11-03-2006, 09:55 AM
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your waste gate never chatters or flutters...

any noise you hear is the turbo stalling..

how many times
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http://media.putfile.com/chatter1

http://media.putfile.com/Tim138-104
Old 11-03-2006, 11:59 AM
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love that sound!!!!

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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
your waste gate never chatters or flutters...

any noise you hear is the turbo stalling..

how many times
technically not,
if the turbo stalled it would break, cos the inlet and exhaust side would spin at different speeds but 1 shaft cant do that. the exhaust gas still pushes it round the right way, the noise is the compressed inlet air being forced out through the compressor blades and it sounds cut-up.
its like wistleing trough a fan, the fan doesnt stall, does it?

and every1 knows what u mean when you say chatter

and cheers T28
Old 11-03-2006, 07:18 PM
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i think youve been told there
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jean.sm...Me_Bedford.mpg

me at bedford, plenty of chatter
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Turbos do break, when not running dvs. and all the little pieces go through the intercooler and kill engines.

if it hasnt happened.............it will ,maybe not today maybe not tomorow, but soon!

i dont see how whistling through a fan can be anything like 30psi going the wrong way through a small turbine?
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Never had a turbo go wrong through not running a dumpvalve and have never run one They never came out the factory with dumpvalves did they well most of them never

http://www.btinternet.com/~knight_ne...chatterbox.wmv

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i think most do have them. cossies deffo do.

Failiure may be an extreme circumstance but i have known it happen to a mate stage 3 cossie. snapped the turbine shaft and shattered the turbine, engine dead
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the reason some didnt have them from factory is because standard boost isnt enough to cause damage, but up the boost as most people do and you need to take into consideration the extra stress this could put on the turbine, its like using a standard head gasket at stage 3 you would expect it to fail because of the extra boost and stress, so you would fit a grp a gasket to make it reliable.
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i thought all turbo cars had some type of dump valve just depends wether they are re-circulating or dump to atmosphere, dumping to atmoshere gives you noise
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most cars do come with dump valves, and all the turbo cars ive had the 1st thing i do is remove them. ive never had a turbo fail, i agree it wont make them last any longer but the noise is oh so good. lol
Old 17-03-2006, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: has any1 got any decent vids with wastegate chatter/flut

Originally Posted by stu21t
ive searched the boards but all the results that come back are old and the files are gone

has any1 got any please?
stu go to this site "aaserud-racing.com" if u havnt already. they' ve got a few cosworths and you can hear flutter. the best one is of a black rs 500 with yellow stickers on driving through forest roads, sounds to good.think its from norway or germany, cant tell. let me know what u thought.
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some1 just got a verbal slap down!
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some people do take things seriously on here.....abit to serious if u ask me!
Stop trying to impress people with your infinate wisdem when all the guy wanted was to hear some chatter!
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http://www.aaserud-racing.com/video/...kkeren2002.WMV

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no way that sounds wikid gets a bit close to the wall tho
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cheers guys,
love that sound
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mega surge.....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...300&q=blow+off
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like the fluttering sound rather than the dv if i have to replace my turbo 3 times a year let it. come to think about it would be a bit expensive
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NICE
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Anyone got a 3gp version so I can show my disbelieving mates what chatter sounds like pls after I've bluetoothed it to my phone.
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Here's a video of my Zetec Turbo Fiesta from last night. 20Mb and only one minute, DivX is on its way!

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...N3IFNXCR3ZKJEB
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
the reason some didnt have them from factory is because standard boost isnt enough to cause damage, but up the boost as most people do and you need to take into consideration the extra stress this could put on the turbine, its like using a standard head gasket at stage 3 you would expect it to fail because of the extra boost and stress, so you would fit a grp a gasket to make it reliable.
speaking shite there mate,if the turbo is strong enough its fine,mine did NOT break EVER in over 20,000 miles of 34 psi boost (with 45psi occasionally being used! ) and i wouldnt buy a grp a gasket cos theyre shite,get a mhg!
was a .63 t34 by the way on my saff
and the dv was actually known as a noise suppressor,so that the execs who bought it couldnt hear the chatter,so wouldnt think theyd broken it
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3M0HWZWJ

download top rite but its a big file lol 160meg

but theres a quite bit of chatter from my cosy and a maestro turbo

Old 07-04-2006, 07:38 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...sworth&pl=true
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Anyone got a 3gp version so I can show my disbelieving mates what chatter sounds like pls after I've bluetoothed it to my phone.
Use a 3GP Video Converter.
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irtza Thanx mate.
I've found a load via google, but don't know which is good/bad/wanky/the best

Any ideas on ones you recommend ?

http://www.google.com/search?complet...=3gp+converter
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Some nice vids
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http://www.google.com/search?complet...=3gp+converter

I use the first one its quite easy to use.
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So correct me if im wrong, if i take my dump valve of my focus rs ill get compressor stalll/ chatter.

I got a new turbo going on this week or the next so might try it for this week.
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my m8 has jus said that this is not possible 2 get on an mfi, is he rite?
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Nope. Complete codswallop.
It is not as loud or prominent as with EFI, but you can most definately get it with mfi.
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cheers m8
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Originally Posted by stu21t
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
your waste gate never chatters or flutters...

any noise you hear is the turbo stalling..

how many times
technically not,
if the turbo stalled it would break, cos the inlet and exhaust side would spin at different speeds but 1 shaft cant do that. the exhaust gas still pushes it round the right way, the noise is the compressed inlet air being forced out through the compressor blades and it sounds cut-up.
its like wistleing trough a fan, the fan doesnt stall, does it?

and every1 knows what u mean when you say chatter

and cheers T28
But still, it's got nowt to do with the wastegate has it?

a) what is SO appealing about hearing your boost being forced through the compressor blades?

b) its becoming a bit chav /
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