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Old May 8, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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OK chaps, looking to get a Honda C90 Cub, anyone know anything about them ? It's one of those I want, I don't care about image or any of that it's fit for purpose and reliable and that's all I want.

I know zilch about motorbikes, scooters, mopeds or any otherwise so am looking for hints on buying specifically a C90. I 'm sure these can be used on motorways ? I only ask that as I have seen one in kent and would need to get it back home and the M25 is by far the easiest route, it won't be used regularly on there !

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Looked into getting one last year to tour spain with a load of mates,no problem on motorways stay clear of chinese copys a fair one will cost £450 a minter upto £1000.Bits are cheap and they are bomb proof.
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too right. and theyre cheap as chips to run and mantain..
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It's a Honda I want mate, not interested in anything else so the Chinese ones don't even make the first hurdle. I've learnt that already ! Reliability is the name of the game as I'm going to be doing a fair few miles on it
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to be fair the chinese copy of the honda 4 stroke engine is quite strong but its the rest of the components that are shite,,do you have a full bike license?if so should be fine on the motorway,there absoloutley bullet proof bought a mint one 10yrs back for £180 it was the cub that had the fuel gauge,we treated it like an off road bike and all that broke was the front mud gaurd because we fell off it every other day,only problem is when your mate knocks it into gear for a laugh while its running they also do a solid 55-60mph,
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Had some serious fun on these over the years! They definately take some abuse thats for sure!

I think id prefer a CG125 over a C90 though!
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or the cb100
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Old May 8, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJyzxHGM2YE

All their bikes are C90 based, total bunch of nutters
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all i know about them is i spent most of my youth on one,
bending 5 frames from big air,
mine was mega race spec,
cg rear shocks,
strenthened centre bar(struggled to lift seat to refuel though)
kx80 nobblys,
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pretty good field basher at the time lol,

seriously cant go wrong with one though secure it well as security on them are very poor
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had one, but C70 years ago as said bomb proof managed near 50mph through blackwall tunnel on the way home from work one day, but how about the honda Innova 125 ? its the replacement for the C90 ect.

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The Innova is Honda's replacement for the trusty C50/70/90 Cub range - this is important to remember as the Innova is very different to modern scooters and not close to any small motorcycles either; for C90 riders though it makes sense!

The whole feel of the Innova, from manoeuvring in the shed to riding it is much more solid than a C90. The suspension, steering and brakes are great improvements yet still have the simplicity the C90 is famous for. The chain is fully enclosed and all-weather riders will appreciate that! The gearing is very different; the change is much smoother yet the C90 novelties are still there - how many bikes let you stop in 4th gear then shift directly to neutral? The Heel & Toe gear lever is usefull as is the dash gear indicator. First gear is much higher than a C90 and so more usefull, third is about the same as a C90 and fourth makes higher speeds more relaxed. In town, fourth is a bit high for urban traffic and this leads to the only real gripe about the Innova - low speed torque. At 30 in fourth, the Innova is not much above tickover and so to accelerate as you leave an urban area or to climb a steep hill you have to change down. The clutch on the Innova does not want to slip once you have pulled away wheras the C90 would use clutch slip for better accelleration - this might just be adjustment though?

I have seen many moans about tank size and range yet once again, as a C90 update there is no problem. The only comment would be that the tiny underseat compartment would have been an opportunity for a 5 to6 litre tank? - Most C90 riders fit a rack and top box and I have done the same to my Innova.

To sum up; a very competent commuter bike that should run for years with minimal cost. Not as stylish, fast or cheap as some modern scooters and not really a motor cycle - Hardened C90 riders will love it!
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hmm.. ok how about 300cc Piaggio MP3, drive them on yur car licence !?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-ANF-...item3a732ab1a0
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Feck off
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cub's are fucking great little things spent most of my teenage years on them well upto 16 lol
Mental front end rises when you brake
But as for using on a motorway, fuck that it'll be hell!
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I need a C90 for a specific reason chaps, they're well proven so that's really what I need to have, but cheers for the comments !
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Minimum cc legally allowed on motorways is 125cc.
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When I was a nipper me and a couple of mates had one that we used to bomb round a field, throttle was stuck wide open and the only brake was the engine cut out switch. Was brilliant fun, was regularly crashed, abused, put straight with a lump hammer, left out all year round in all weathers and it ran like a dream and only gave up when we sheared the front forks off somehow
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just been out on mine to fill with fuel (£7) and get a new sidelight bulb ready for the MOT

brilliant fun. i've been all over on mine, even up the alps









best source of info is http://www.c90club.co.uk

as said above, not cheap for a good one. the later 12v are a better bike, but look horrid with their square lights
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i like scooters, ive got a pgo gmax 50, they are cheap to fill up nowadays, imagine back in the 80s, would of cost pennies to brim..
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Bogseat rot on the fork legs and on the rear mudgaurd at the back of the seat.Other than than pretty bomb proof.I must of had 20 of the buggers 50,70 and 90's.The oldest (72)being like the one in post 19,saying that I had a grey 70 that my of been older.One back 2 foward shift pattern changed at about 79 and then about 85 they got the square headlight.You cant beat a boger
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
I need a C90 for a specific reason chaps, they're well proven so that's really what I need to have, but cheers for the comments !
whats the specific reason mate if you dont mind me been nosey
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for reliablility i'd look to honda 125's too, cg xr etc, c90's are ok for the job but honda 4 stroke 125's are bomb proof

cbt and you are on the rd
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Originally Posted by 1.9 xr2 on 40's
for reliablility i'd look to honda 125's too, cg xr etc, c90's are ok for the job but honda 4 stroke 125's are bomb proof

cbt and you are on the rd
c50,70 and 90 are four strokes too and have been around for a long time.The CG can burn valves out iirc,I think my mate has had four engines in his,and yes he does ride it like its an R1 cos he's a tit ! !
I have only blown one engine in a bogseat and maybe destroyed a gearbox.
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Thanks for the advice guys, today bought a '97 C90 Cub CGI, 6300 miles, 2 owners, mint with no rust at all rom a dealer in Kent. Put a deposit down, go to view Saturday and if OK then I'll pay the balance.
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when yu get there and it looks like this!! erm.. walk away

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-c90-...item27c6b1f844
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yeah....even with my limited (read none) knowledge of C90's I think even I'd be able to tell that's a wrong'un !
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Originally Posted by 1.9 xr2 on 40's
for reliablility i'd look to honda 125's too, cg xr etc, c90's are ok for the job but honda 4 stroke 125's are bomb proof

cbt and you are on the rd
a cg would get my vote too
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Have you bought some brown paper bags then?

Or will you wear the helmet to and from the bike and not take it off so noone knows it's you?
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
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I know how much you dislike mopeds/scooters from a previous thread chop but honestly they put a huge grin on your face and cost fuck all to run about in.
I've a had a few decent power motorbikes but my Suzuki 110cc moped just made me grin from ear to ear everytime I rode it.
It wasted most things off the lights as well,awesome fun and £5 a week in petrol for 80-90 miles.
Amazing what you can fit under the seat as well,no traffic jams and under £80 a year to insure.
Fooking marvellous!!!!
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Have you bought some brown paper bags then?

Or will you wear the helmet to and from the bike and not take it off so noone knows it's you?
What, with my pink helmet ?
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Originally Posted by rs2klee
Am I mental or is that a turtle?

Since we're talking about mopeds, anyone know roughly how much a cbt costs to do? I thought I could ride a 50cc on my car license but apparently not
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
What, with my pink helmet ?

Oooooooeeeeerrrrrrrr
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
What, with my pink helmet ?
A few years ago I used to see someone on a Puch Maxi, full pink leathers and pink helmet, usually pedalling it down a bypass!
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tax £15 ... mot £30 ... insurance £160 per year... full tank of petrol £6 or £7 ...

i dont blame you for wanting a moped tbh... only reason iv got mine is purely because i cant afford to run a car yet and they ARE quite fun . ONLY ped iv Ever own and will own, is a Yamaha Aerox though. Mine does 55, cubs only do about 40 :\

although i do remember seeing a tv show where they were fucking up a Cub90.... dropped it off a building and then run it over with a tank and i think it still started !!! >>>

this- its like 5mins into it where the drop it>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaeKrqJJqm0

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Originally Posted by Darylc.
Am I mental or is that a turtle?

Since we're talking about mopeds, anyone know roughly how much a cbt costs to do? I thought I could ride a 50cc on my car license but apparently not
CBT is roughly £110 depending who you go with but you can ride a 50cc on ya car licence but must display L plates
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I think I may invest in a bike now it looks like ill be changing jobs, a CG125 would be ideal for what I need! Although I wouldnt say no to a Gilera Runner, a mate of mine had one and it was SO quick for a ped! Used to be able to pop the front wheel up all the time!!

All those older mopeds are incredible though, definately built to last!
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