500 intercooler
28-01-2006, 10:44 AM
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The Radtec one had the best temperature drops in the PF test but the Pro-alloy looks more bling.
Both well made but the Pro-alloy one is more finished.
I'd go with Pro-Alloy or Radtec.
No real difference in performance and which one just depends how bufty you are and how much you care one is sub Ł300 the other is Ł400.
I paid Ł260 for my brand new Radtec RS500 cooler, but that was cheap as I bought two
Both well made but the Pro-alloy one is more finished.
I'd go with Pro-Alloy or Radtec.
No real difference in performance and which one just depends how bufty you are and how much you care one is sub Ł300 the other is Ł400.
I paid Ł260 for my brand new Radtec RS500 cooler, but that was cheap as I bought two
28-01-2006, 10:51 AM
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The only test done was sep 04 PF.
AH fabrications and Rad tech come top on the cooling side, but the pro alloy is a more of a show piece (polished for looks) and had good temps too, so come top.
all Ave temp's in that PF test were on a T4 460-500 bhp car, done from 40 - 100mph flat out. on 3 runs per intercooler
AH Fabs = 104oC ave drop, with ambient 17oC, b4 inter ave 131oC,after 27oC ave.
Radtech = 104oC ave drop, with ambient 19oC, B4 inter ave 138oC,After 34oC ave.
Proalloy = 99oC ave drop, with ambient 18oC, B4 inter ave 127oC, After 28oC ave.
Pace prototype = 93oC ave drop, with ambient 20oC, B4 inter ave 121oC, after 28oC ave.
Std RS500 = 77oC ave drop, with ambients 21oC, B4 inter ave 111oC, after 28oC ave. on the rs500 test i took ave from 2 runs, as the 3rd has a printing error.
on my fiecos i dont notice ambients do much to peak ACT's, not 3-5oC ambient difference any how, but cooler the better.
The test was too rough, as only tested them up to 100 mph,
as on my cossie my ACT's dont reach peak to at least 150mph if more on its first run, but do a bk to bk test (not letting nothing cool) peaks about 130mph.
as if i run the test it would be done on a high boost (35psi) 450-600 bhp car, where the pre inter temps are high in the first place.
The test would then be done, @ a test run way, where top speed could be achieved.
And the done bk to bk tests on each inter, and i would record
peak ACT's before and after intercooler,
ambients,
boost before and after intercooler,
and maybe Egt's and AFR at time of peak ACTs.
It would take more time, but would give a true results,
As on my cossie once i reach a peak ACT on my 1st run, i can (tried many times) then do 4 more back to top speed runs and the ACT stays the same peak figure ( Thats all with my water inj turned OFF).
AH fabrications and Rad tech come top on the cooling side, but the pro alloy is a more of a show piece (polished for looks) and had good temps too, so come top.
all Ave temp's in that PF test were on a T4 460-500 bhp car, done from 40 - 100mph flat out. on 3 runs per intercooler
AH Fabs = 104oC ave drop, with ambient 17oC, b4 inter ave 131oC,after 27oC ave.
Radtech = 104oC ave drop, with ambient 19oC, B4 inter ave 138oC,After 34oC ave.
Proalloy = 99oC ave drop, with ambient 18oC, B4 inter ave 127oC, After 28oC ave.
Pace prototype = 93oC ave drop, with ambient 20oC, B4 inter ave 121oC, after 28oC ave.
Std RS500 = 77oC ave drop, with ambients 21oC, B4 inter ave 111oC, after 28oC ave. on the rs500 test i took ave from 2 runs, as the 3rd has a printing error.
on my fiecos i dont notice ambients do much to peak ACT's, not 3-5oC ambient difference any how, but cooler the better.
The test was too rough, as only tested them up to 100 mph,
as on my cossie my ACT's dont reach peak to at least 150mph if more on its first run, but do a bk to bk test (not letting nothing cool) peaks about 130mph.
as if i run the test it would be done on a high boost (35psi) 450-600 bhp car, where the pre inter temps are high in the first place.
The test would then be done, @ a test run way, where top speed could be achieved.
And the done bk to bk tests on each inter, and i would record
peak ACT's before and after intercooler,
ambients,
boost before and after intercooler,
and maybe Egt's and AFR at time of peak ACTs.
It would take more time, but would give a true results,
As on my cossie once i reach a peak ACT on my 1st run, i can (tried many times) then do 4 more back to top speed runs and the ACT stays the same peak figure ( Thats all with my water inj turned OFF).
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28-01-2006, 12:03 PM
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I had the Rad tec one, got it from Rapid Ford on E-bay and was the cheapest around.
My cossy was running 400 bhp and the intercooler was lovely
My average inlet temp was 20-25 when driving normally. even in summer it really did not go up much
Ben
My cossy was running 400 bhp and the intercooler was lovely
My average inlet temp was 20-25 when driving normally. even in summer it really did not go up much
Ben
28-01-2006, 03:29 PM
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This is my Fiecos prototype intercooler,
designed by me, usin Ah fab's core (same as in the pf test), but now 2 years old, and now getting new one made, better core, and end tanks.
even in 28oC ambients after 4 back to back top speed runs at brunters change temps peaked and held from 7000rpm in 4th till 7500rpm in 6th gear (130 - 169mph 0r 15 seconds) @ 43oC with water inj off (38oC with waterinj on)
designed by me, usin Ah fab's core (same as in the pf test), but now 2 years old, and now getting new one made, better core, and end tanks.
even in 28oC ambients after 4 back to back top speed runs at brunters change temps peaked and held from 7000rpm in 4th till 7500rpm in 6th gear (130 - 169mph 0r 15 seconds) @ 43oC with water inj off (38oC with waterinj on)
28-01-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Basky
weld some cossie one,s together
all the big bhp cars do it so they must be better
but also depends on power output
all the big bhp cars do it so they must be better
but also depends on power output
The only problem is with that is the air flow getting to the rad, as cossie inters are alot narrower than a 500 one, so the end tanks hide the rad = over heating problems.
29-01-2006, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gus
as its for me s1 i think i will be using pro alloy as it might need modifying in someway
29-01-2006, 10:12 AM
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who supplies radtec cooler for best price then?
i see rapid ford selling on ebay for Ł325 delivered i think. I was hoping for Ł300 or less...
think they'd do a deal on couple of people buying at same time?
29-01-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Originally Posted by Ryan
pro-alloy group buy ! 
soon though before i get sensible again
you were one of our first IIRC?
29-01-2006, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gus
as its for me s1 i think i will be using pro alloy as it might need modifying in someway
The other way to do it would be for you to make a cardboard mock-up and we make it from that..
or
frankenstein motorsport have done this convertion with one of our coolers..maybe worth having a chat with them?
29-01-2006, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
pro-alloy group buy !
soon though before i get sensible again
you were one of our first IIRC?
nah mate not guilty. You might be thinking of my imposter on here called "lamb chops"
so anyways how many needed for a group buy? i was ready to get my wallet out this week...
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31-01-2006, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
pro alloy won the back to back test in performance ford.
would go for that or genuine 500 IMO.
would go for that or genuine 500 IMO.
pf HAVE RE- RUN THIS TEST IN THE 'COSWORTH COLLECTORS SPECIAL' WHICH HAS JUST BEEN RELEASED 
31-01-2006, 08:36 AM
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This is the new super wide, (140mm more than standard) and super deep (65mm instead of 50mm) with the patented 
(so I expect royalties : ) R&B scoop design Pro-alloy intercooler.
I will have some temp figures by end of Feb when car goes to Bruntingthorpe.
(so I expect royalties : ) R&B scoop design Pro-alloy intercooler.I will have some temp figures by end of Feb when car goes to Bruntingthorpe.
31-01-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
This is the new super wide, (140mm more than standard) and super deep (65mm instead of 50mm) with the patented (so I expect royalties : ) R&B scoop design Pro-alloy intercooler.
I will have some temp figures by end of Feb when car goes to Bruntingthorpe.
(so I expect royalties : ) R&B scoop design Pro-alloy intercooler.I will have some temp figures by end of Feb when car goes to Bruntingthorpe.
sorry mike .. been using a scoop for the past year on my pace rad /rs500 setup
you are so far behind..but reading the test results looks like the origional RS500 one is the worst one .. oh well i got mine free so i dont care
