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Old 18-01-2006, 08:13 PM
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How do I find which neigbour is steeling my wireless connection....

I need to use it unencryted ocassionally and EVERY time I do this flocker comes on and cains my connection!!

Any sugestions?

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Old 18-01-2006, 08:18 PM
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Go round and knock him out
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why do you NEED to use it unencrypted?

easiest way of doing it is to connect onto his PC and take a poke about to try and work out who he is. cookies with addresses in will be your best bet
Old 18-01-2006, 08:20 PM
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just set fire to all the houses in the strret.

you should get him then
Old 18-01-2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
why do you NEED to use it unencrypted?

easiest way of doing it is to connect onto his PC and take a poke about to try and work out who he is. cookies with addresses in will be your best bet
OK its easier for me too... old pda...

anyway

how do I find out about his pc?

Alex
Old 18-01-2006, 08:27 PM
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MMm you will see it in the set up of your router should have a status page with his IP address and details what you do then dunno

I would jsut wep or WPA it up though

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Old 18-01-2006, 08:29 PM
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when you think he is using you system, use your web browser and log onto your router and see the Ip address and HW address which has loged on.


Then go on your PC and in the run Command \\"ipaddress" return
if he has know shares then use \\"ipaddress" c$ and guess the admin password, which is blank in most cases

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set your DHCP leases to 30 days and only have it give out 2 IP addresses in the scope (1 for your PC one for your PDA) that way if he connects he wont get an IP address so cant do feck all.

or some routers let you lock it down via MAC addresses, so only m,achines you decide can have access will have access.

more to the point tho...

IF YOU LEAVE AN UNSECURE WIRELESS CONNECTION ACTIVE YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR NEIGHBOURS USE IT!
Old 18-01-2006, 08:31 PM
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Does your router give out IP addresses via DHCP? Can you not just disable DHCP on your router, and use static ip addresses on your router + PC / PDA?

Open a command prompt on your PC (start \ run\ cmd ) then type in "ipconfig /all" , make a note of your MAC address (physical address), then go into your router and set it so only this MAC address can use it.
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set your DHCP leases to 30 days and only have it give out 2 IP addresses in the scope (1 for your PC one for your PDA) that way if he connects he wont get an IP address so cant do feck all.

or some routers let you lock it down via MAC addresses, so only m,achines you decide can have access will have access.
do this as a minimum if you cant secure the network. Change the default password on the router. You should also make sure you run a firewall on your pc.
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cant be arsed to read this post fully (yer my arogant side) but if u cant be arsed to protect ur wireless network properly, i have no sympathy

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Originally Posted by Stu.H
cant be arsed to read this post fully (yer my arogant side) but if u cant be arsed to protect ur wireless network properly, i have no sympathy

well fuck off my post then
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Originally Posted by edz

You should also run a firewall on your pc.
how will that stop his neighbour using his wireless connection??

as for firewall on your pc, if your firewall has nats their aint much need to have something else.. just virus and spyware detector
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it wont but it protects him from his neighbour
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thanks for the concern peeps...

my pc is fine and VERY VERY rarly is my net connection open to people.

Its more a case of I'd like to knock on a door and say hello to this person!

Alex
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No wireless network is secure no matter how much encryption there is !!
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Originally Posted by SECS
No wireless network is secure no matter how much encryption there is !!
really? if it's good enough for the us government.....
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pgtips, that much secure then
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run a packet sniffer
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Originally Posted by SECS
pgtips, that much secure then
yeah, but it might just blow itself up or maybe its neighbours
Old 19-01-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
when you think he is using you system, use your web browser and log onto your router and see the Ip address and HW address which has loged on.


Then go on your PC and in the run Command \\"ipaddress" return
if he has know shares then use \\"ipaddress" c$ and guess the admin password, which is blank in most cases
HW address?

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Old 19-01-2006, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
when you think he is using you system, use your web browser and log onto your router and see the Ip address and HW address which has loged on.


Then go on your PC and in the run Command \\"ipaddress" return
if he has know shares then use \\"ipaddress" c$ and guess the admin password, which is blank in most cases
HW address?

Alex
"Hardware address"......otherwise known as a MAC address.

But yes, I'd lock the router down to MAC addresses, all of which should be pretty easy to find out for your own machines. Then, anyone who tries to connect with a MAC address not on that list doesn't get a wireless-connection (not easily, anyway).
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Monitor his packets and get his bank details
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Originally Posted by andy_st200
Originally Posted by edz

You should also run a firewall on your pc.
how will that stop his neighbour using his wireless connection??

as for firewall on your pc, if your firewall has nats their aint much need to have something else.. just virus and spyware detector
Because once you have found the neighbour's IP address, you simply block that ip address in the router

You could also do the other option, which is what I have done before.

When you connect to someone's network, you have to be on the same workgroup, thus you can browse his shared files / folders. By default, when networking you get a shared documents folder in my computer. All you have to do is put a timed self-extracting file in there, riddled with virus's. Make it look like a windows system file, (just in case he goes in there) and then leave it
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Originally Posted by Phil
Monitor his packets and get his bank details

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By far the simplest route is to use MAC address filtering simple as, that way you don't need the overhead of encryption unless you want it of course!

Should be simple enough to configure via your router, from a cmd line type IPCONFIG /ALL then look for the Physical address which is 6 sets of Alpha/Numeric digits you simple add them into your router and your away

This only restricts wirless devices anything plugged in via an ethernet cable works as is.
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
thanks for the concern peeps...

my pc is fine and VERY VERY rarly is my net connection open to people.

Its more a case of I'd like to knock on a door and say hello to this person!

Alex
pmsl.. if it was me.. and YOU knocked on my door.. i think i'd just laugh my arse off and shut the door!
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Yeah but the look on your face would be worth it Dave....
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