ryan_belfast

After seeing how good a job damo did on his car im thinking about doing my own car and giving it a new lease of life. Obviously ive been reading quite a bit about it etc etc and i want to try it out for myself. obviously im gonna start and do something small first to get used to what to do then go onto the car....

Anyone any tips?

Also i need to purchase the equipment etc, whats a good make of spray gun etc? where do i get them?

Charlie Chalk

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For gun choice, IMO Devilbiss Gti's are the dogs bollocks!

But you can pick up guns quite cheap, Try ( www.ebay.com ) All depends how much spraying your going to do and how much your budget is for one...

You'll need a compressor obvioulsy for the air pressuse,
Somewhere decent you can convert to a spray booth ( with decent ventilation),
A facial mask as the isocyanates in paint is very bad for your health
(Can cause cancer, worst case scenario)

then you'll need supplies like masking tape/line tape, paper, sand paper, sanding discs,DA sander, air lines, tack rags, blow gun off the top of my head

hth

Will see what Damo has to say, As im still hungover

ryan_belfast

Excellent advice so far thanks chum! Lists like this of what i need is highly appreciated, there is no real budget, just whatever it takes altho i dont want to be spending Ł500 on a gun...

Charlie Chalk

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Not a problem mate, Its what this sites about


You can get a decent gun for alot less than Ł500 , Just had a quick browse on google and got this

http://www.tradeproducts.co.uk/spray_guns.htm

ryan_belfast

just came across this website myself....

Charlie Chalk

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Im just looking for a few more sites to help you out, Will post them when i find some decent ones

ryan_belfast

Very helpful today, merci buckets....

Charlie Chalk

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http://www.near.co.uk/paint-spraying...g-accessories/

Damo V

what he said

though for a semi decent gun, 60 quid ish deVilbiss do a starter gun, flg3 iirc

dave cos4x4

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Even with all the top notch stuff you just cannot go out and spray your car.

These are skilled peolpe that have taken months years to get it right.

Also its a lot to pay out if you keep on making mistakes,if you don't like the finish etc...

Be better of paying someone to do a good job on it first time.

Charlie Chalk

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There is that Dave..

Ive been doing it for 4 years, But as he says, he'll be doing small bits first..

The job its self isnt hard!

Its the prep that it comes down to

dave cos4x4

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The job is an easy one yes but if its not perfect all the time then people will want it doing again,more costs to him then.

ok if its just for little jobs but its a lot to fork out just for them type of jobs.

Paulie Wheelnuts

Obviously im not going to just jump straight in and start prepping and spraying my car, im gonna take a long time and do a load of test pieces first...

I know i could take it somewhere else and they would do a superb job, but there is bound to be self satisfaction doing it yourself...

Paulie Wheelnuts

Im not spraying anyone elses car but my own, so i will keep doing it until i get it the way i want it.

ryan_belfast

Shit, i was logged in under the old mans name there...

dave cos4x4

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be easier getting taught the proper way at college etc...give you a better idea.

Charlie Chalk

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Dave.. I done 8 months training, im sure he dont want to do that


Fair play for wanting to give it ago

Be good to see the result

dave cos4x4

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i know what you mean but i'm sure there are certain ways to do things.

Just a guide to Ryan before he starts

ryan_belfast

Dunno why but i really want to give it a bash.. Need to get a list together of all the foshizzle i need, then ill start buying it all and get some spare metal from a scrap yard and start practising on it.

ryan_belfast

Oh there is and ive been reading loads about what way to do things, and how to prepare the surfaces for paint etc...

Charlie Chalk

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You'll need a decent degreasing liquid, White sprit is ok, but in work we use something stronger, not sure if its for sale to public tho ...

Best way to test if the metal is free of grease, is to get a hose pipe and run water from the top down and see if the water seperates


If it does, its still greasy

ryan_belfast

You definately know your stuff

Im assuming you spray for a living ?

Charlie Chalk

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Yes mate.. have done for 4 years, Its my trade in the RAF

dave cos4x4

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Ryan, you know know who to ask when you need anything.

Charlie Chalk

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Check this link.. https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=163830


Theres a picture of an oil tank I've sprayed the other week, I like to do private jobs, but dont always have time

Been doing parts of this BSA for a while now, needless to say the owner keeps coming back

ryan_belfast

LOL true dave, await a post in a week or two with the title

"Spraying Gone Wrong What to Do?"

Charlie Chalk

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ryan_belfast

Well im gonna go to halfrauds and get myself a compressor this week, and i suppose ill order the gun this week aswell... Where can i get the rest of the things you listed? Homebase?

Charlie Chalk

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Erm that im not sure on,I'll have a look around, bare with me


As for the compressor, you'll need it to run about 130psi..

For Prepping- I use a DA @ 120psi with 180 grade stickets, then wet flat (600/400 grade) by hand to smooth the prep

Spraying- pressure set to 40psi

Did you see the link above? ^^

ryan_belfast

Just looking at it now chum, definatly a mirror shine finish, superb quality.... dont quite think my efforts are going to be of such quality.

mk2rstaff

was thining of doing this course when i leave the forces, there is always people crashing and dinkin cars

Charlie Chalk

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Ryan_Belfast Cheers mate, Its only practise


mk2rstaff Do a course through the forces? Do it, you wont regret it, The money is there thats for sure

steven720

skiman....
pls don't even think about spraying the car yourself.
just pay someone to do it. it'll prob work out the same price by the time you buy compressor ect.

you will ruin the car.
please chum

ryan_belfast

Steven trust thein self its not going to be something thats done overnight....

steven720

that may well be true but would you not like to just drive it to somewhere, and pick it up a week later and it to be out of the box.

guy that did my scuttle panel is amazing, you should een go up and have a chat with him

Charlie Chalk

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Just a few things to help you know what you'll need-


Tack rags - http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/s/STATR/

Good for degreasing and a decent polish cloth - http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/j/JHGSTOCS/

Good to protect your cloths/skin- http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/r/RODPC182W/

Masking Tape- http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/c/CEDMT/

Facial masks- http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/Pr...n/Respirators/

ryan_belfast

Sure alan segsby is a painter and a very good one at that, but i would love to just learn how to do it myself... Im gonna go down and have a chat with him about the whole thing....

ryan_belfast

excellent mate, thanks very much for your help so far....

steven720

that's not who did mine, name is morris near ballygowan. just go have a talk with him.
it would break your heart if you made a slight mistake and then had to pay somebody anyway

Charlie Chalk

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Not a problem

Let me know how you get on

Also if you need anything, Let me know