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Old 21-12-2005, 12:57 PM
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My Escos....

T38, 450 brake, 390 lbs

Quaife box with std ratios and 235/40/18 rubber

im thinking around 165?
Old 21-12-2005, 12:59 PM
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What's it rev to?
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7200 isn't it? Has to be 170+ at least I reckon
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dunno.. i guess 7000


p8, coilpacks.. the rev counter isnt too hot!
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And is that 450bhp in the car or on the dyno

I would say abit more really m8, about 170/175
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
What's it rev to?
Immaterial.

The question you MEANT to ask is, where is peak power and how much does it tail off by before the limiter?
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
What's it rev to?
Immaterial.

The question you MEANT to ask is, where is peak power and how much does it tail off by before the limiter?
Well everybody knows that, I just didn't want to steal your thunder

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I know that mike.. but harveys dyno chart only goes to 7000rpm

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and as you can see.. there is no drop off in pwr
Old 21-12-2005, 01:03 PM
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mike out of interest what did urs pull on the dyno?
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looks more like approx 440bhp than 450bhp
Old 21-12-2005, 01:05 PM
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173

If you take the rear spoiler off again!
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Originally Posted by Benn 304R
looks more like approx 440bhp than 450bhp
Beat me to it .

I would expect it to hit a true 170mph with wing on.

I would also be VERY careful about doing this speed before having the car det checked. Mark had to pull several degrees of timing out of Yum's car at the top end for top speed runs....
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sorry, pedantic wankers! 438

Old 21-12-2005, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
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looks more like approx 440bhp than 450bhp
Beat me to it .

I would expect it to hit a true 170mph with wing on.
Lol Mike, Im awaiting the usual name calling I get from him
His a bit slow today I think as his normally right on it
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170 with wing on sounds reasonable, YUM did 178 with it off at similar power levels on the same turbo.
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Sorry to be pedantic also, but where's the 390lbs-ft?
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Originally Posted by aduz
mike out of interest what did urs pull on the dyno?
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...128432&start=0
Old 21-12-2005, 01:11 PM
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Benn, I'm biting my tongue.



just like you're used to with pillows!!!!!!


aaarrgghhhh f*ck it!.. as much as I tried.... it still came out!
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Sorry to be pedantic also, but where's the 390lbs-ft?
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
170 with wing on sounds reasonable, YUM did 178 with it off at similar power levels on the same turbo.
Different turbo.
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Sorry to be pedantic also, but where's the 390lbs-ft?
in his DREAMS
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thats all I have to say
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by aduz
mike out of interest what did urs pull on the dyno?
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...128432&start=0
fookin ell what a complete package
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
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I would also be VERY careful about doing this speed before having the car det checked. Mark had to pull several degrees of timing out of Yum's car at the top end for top speed runs....
I'd like to but Ahmed is proving VERY difficult to get hold of... I'm beginning to feel like a pest and am thinking of putting his number in my phone as a speed dial
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good point bill.. you C*NT


I see... Just because i dont even remember my dyno figures because im that bothered about them and have to search the vast archives of pictoral stich ups of members off here, on photobucket... you hound me like a wounded fox at a hunt! c--unt!
Old 21-12-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I would also be VERY careful about doing this speed before having the car det checked. Mark had to pull several degrees of timing out of Yum's car at the top end for top speed runs....
Surely that means its not mapped right?

Id want my car to be mapped to be safe at top speed from the start
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You would be the first to jump on me if it was the other way round you c*nt
Im going back to work now, so will look forward to the barrage of pics and piss takes aimed at me
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i thought this was the point of the dyno also?

so whats the point of the dyno if it all has to be double checked on the road
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At 7000 RPM In 5th gear on ALL std ratios and the tyre size you state

That is A REAL MAX speed obtainable of

176.06 MPH

At 7250 RPM it is 182.35 MPH
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I would also be VERY careful about doing this speed before having the car det checked. Mark had to pull several degrees of timing out of Yum's car at the top end for top speed runs....
Surely that means its not mapped right?

Id want my car to be mapped to be safe at top speed from the start
i expect it's because the car cannot be held at full throttle on the road when mapping, in the same way it would on a top speed run
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Originally Posted by Benn 304R
You would be the first to jump on me if it was the other way round you c*nt
Im going back to work now, so will look forward to the barrage of pics and piss takes aimed at me

go on.. f*ck off you big overgrown poof!
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Sorry Dave, and it wasn't 438, it was 439.6

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Dave, dont forget in comparing your top speed to YUM.......your front bumper has HUGE flat(ish) frontal area, and also the extra drag of the WRC rear wing..........I.E. more drag and higher downforce than the normal Es Cossie shape.

IIRC the WRC Es Cos bodywork was developed with a top speed of approx 125 MPH in mind.
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I had 169 out my stage 3 light blues 340 bhp and spoiler.But there was this mad vibrating noise comming from the back of the car i thought at the time it was the spoiler a bit like having your sunroof open and holding the wind flap down makes that mad noise tho the car. this was on gps not speedo lol
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I would also be VERY careful about doing this speed before having the car det checked. Mark had to pull several degrees of timing out of Yum's car at the top end for top speed runs....
Surely that means its not mapped right?

Id want my car to be mapped to be safe at top speed from the start
i expect it's because the car cannot be held at full throttle on the road when mapping, in the same way it would on a top speed run

No its mapped on the Dyno in IDEAL / controlled circumstances..

The dyon is ideal for replicating the same RPM position time and time again... EXACTLY to the point... unlike in a car trying to hold it in a certain position

The engine MAY need a slight detune in the car if it is less efficient (cooling etc)

e.g I asked for a safe strong reliable 350BHP engine, so I can turn up at any rolling road and KNOW it will pull 350-360HP

ON the Dyno she managed 375.. so once in the car knock off 10-20 HP (dpending on car etc )...
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in that case i'm with Steve, why will it need re-checking, is it not mapped with some safety in mind or always on the limit??
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woohoo Doug, great news!

as long as it does 160, im not bothered! Ive had a speedo 150 from it in -running in- mode (12 psi) pmsl - Tom tom matched it by 2 mph ( 152)

so double the boost and a bit more should see me to 170


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bud-weis


because in the car will never be the same circumstance as in a computer controlled Dyno cell
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
as long as it does 160, im not bothered! Ive had a speedo 150 from it in -running in- mode (12 psi) pmsl - Tom tom matched it by 2 mph ( 152)

:
I havent had mine past 130 yet!!.. Infact probably not even past 120


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