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21-12-2005, 01:27 PM
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Well EVERY tuner worth his salt (Mark Shead / Ahmed etc) det checks the engine at full load on both the engine dyno and in the car.
The dyno allows the full load points to be mapped ACCURATELY and the road allows the car to be checked in the confined environment of in the car.
You could "simulate" the road conditions on the dyno, but what would be the point, as you would STILL have to check the accuracy of these in the car, just to be sure.
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
- talk about false economy.
Why do you think my car / MAD cars are so reliable? It's because they have been mapped to the most extreme conditions, so you know that you can cane bollocks off the car with impunity.
You lot are crazy if you don't do this with your cars...
The dyno allows the full load points to be mapped ACCURATELY and the road allows the car to be checked in the confined environment of in the car.
You could "simulate" the road conditions on the dyno, but what would be the point, as you would STILL have to check the accuracy of these in the car, just to be sure.
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
- talk about false economy. Why do you think my car / MAD cars are so reliable? It's because they have been mapped to the most extreme conditions, so you know that you can cane bollocks off the car with impunity.
You lot are crazy if you don't do this with your cars...
21-12-2005, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
as long as it does 160, im not bothered! 
Ive had a speedo 150 from it in -running in- mode (12 psi) pmsl - Tom tom matched it by 2 mph ( 152)
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Ive had a speedo 150 from it in -running in- mode (12 psi) pmsl - Tom tom matched it by 2 mph ( 152):
it WILL get there mate.. but see my after post..
find a good hill going down!
21-12-2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Dave, dont forget in comparing your top speed to YUM.......your front bumper has HUGE flat(ish) frontal area, and also the extra drag of the WRC rear wing..........I.E. more drag and higher downforce than the normal Es Cossie shape.
IIRC the WRC Es Cos bodywork was developed with a top speed of approx 125 MPH in mind.
IIRC the WRC Es Cos bodywork was developed with a top speed of approx 125 MPH in mind.
The WRC wing has more downforce, but LESS drag, hence why they switched to this in the first place
.I concur regarding the front end though
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21-12-2005, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Well EVERY tuner worth his salt (Mark Shead / Ahmed etc) det checks the engine at full load on both the engine dyno and in the car.
The dyno allows the full load points to be mapped ACCURATELY and the road allows the car to be checked in the confined environment of in the car.
You could "simulate" the road conditions on the dyno, but what would be the point, as you would STILL have to check the accuracy of these in the car, just to be sure.
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine - talk about false economy.
Why do you think my car / MAD cars are so reliable? It's because they have been mapped to the most extreme conditions, so you know that you can cane bollocks off the car with impunity.
You lot are crazy if you don't do this with your cars...
The dyno allows the full load points to be mapped ACCURATELY and the road allows the car to be checked in the confined environment of in the car.
You could "simulate" the road conditions on the dyno, but what would be the point, as you would STILL have to check the accuracy of these in the car, just to be sure.
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
- talk about false economy. Why do you think my car / MAD cars are so reliable? It's because they have been mapped to the most extreme conditions, so you know that you can cane bollocks off the car with impunity.
You lot are crazy if you don't do this with your cars...
my point was,and i think Steve's too, is surely any car that has been mapped should be safe to use in any way.
21-12-2005, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
im not paying 350 to have my already dyno'd engine set up!
21-12-2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Damo V
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
DAVE.... Group Buy
21-12-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Damo V
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
DAVE.... Group Buy
deffo....
ring him and sort it.. we'll get both ours done on the same day!
tight c*nt? how is spending over £700 ona dyno set up tight!
21-12-2005, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Originally Posted by Damo V
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Damo V
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
DAVE.... Group Buy
deffo....
ring him and sort it.. we'll get both ours done on the same day!
tight c*nt? how is spending over £700 ona dyno set up tight!
How many miles you done?
21-12-2005, 01:40 PM
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Dave,
Brunters costs £60 an hour, which this would cover as well, you tight fuck. Also, P8 can't be live mapped as Damo will explain, so each change has to be loaded into a chip and checked until it is perfect.
On the dyno, the load is held only just long enough to capture the BRAKE horse power (as the engine is usually fresh from a rebuild).
Once in the car, the time at WOT is considerably longer, and the thermal build-up at full load is IMMENSE, so it MUST be checked. Sometimes, you will find very little needs changing, but if you have a wanky intercooler / cooling etc, then you may find ignition needs to be removed and/or fuel added.
My car has done in excess of 30,000 miles and is STILL as sweet as a nut. This wasn't by accident or bufty driving - everyone knows the car is given DEATH and just turns up and does the business where-ever it goes...
Brunters costs £60 an hour, which this would cover as well, you tight fuck
. Also, P8 can't be live mapped as Damo will explain, so each change has to be loaded into a chip and checked until it is perfect.On the dyno, the load is held only just long enough to capture the BRAKE horse power (as the engine is usually fresh from a rebuild).
Once in the car, the time at WOT is considerably longer, and the thermal build-up at full load is IMMENSE, so it MUST be checked. Sometimes, you will find very little needs changing, but if you have a wanky intercooler / cooling etc, then you may find ignition needs to be removed and/or fuel added.
My car has done in excess of 30,000 miles and is STILL as sweet as a nut. This wasn't by accident or bufty driving
- everyone knows the car is given DEATH and just turns up and does the business where-ever it goes...
21-12-2005, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
Originally Posted by Damo V
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Damo V
I can't believe that people would be worried about a £350 bill for the sake of saving a £10k engine
DAVE.... Group Buy
deffo....
ring him and sort it.. we'll get both ours done on the same day!
tight c*nt? how is spending over £700 ona dyno set up tight!
21-12-2005, 01:43 PM
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so mike if i bought a turbo from harvey, i would have to have the engine dyno'd and then det checked at brunters.
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
21-12-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Westy
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i assume this brunters thing is just a check of a check.. double safe
i assume this brunters thing is just a check of a check.. double safe
21-12-2005, 01:48 PM
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you fucking idiots.. of course im going to have it det checked..
i assumed this would be done at grove though on the road.. not at brunters!
fuckwads!
i assumed this would be done at grove though on the road.. not at brunters!
fuckwads!
21-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
so mike if i bought a turbo from harvey, i would have to have the engine dyno'd and then det checked at brunters.
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
?
21-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Westy
when harvey gibbs built my mates 400+ engine, this was mapped by Ahmed on the dyno..
years later and I do believe its still running well
i assume this brunters thing is just a check of a check.. double safe
years later and I do believe its still running well
i assume this brunters thing is just a check of a check.. double safe
In the grand scheme its not a lot to pay for knowing its not going to melt at high speed. If you plan to not use all the performance then its not an issue.
21-12-2005, 01:55 PM
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Hang on we're all forgetting something here...................
Where the fuck can a slack jawed faggot like Mulheran do 160mph in a carpark!!!
The McDonalds drivethru's ain't that fooking long!!
See Dave i've just saved you £350.00....................That'll keep you inundated with happy meals over the xmas period.
Peace out nigga
Where the fuck can a slack jawed faggot like Mulheran do 160mph in a carpark!!!
The McDonalds drivethru's ain't that fooking long!!
See Dave i've just saved you £350.00....................That'll keep you inundated with happy meals over the xmas period.
Peace out nigga
21-12-2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Where the fuck can a slack jawed faggot like Mulheran do 160mph in a carpark!!!
The McDonalds drivethru's at that fooking long!!
The McDonalds drivethru's at that fooking long!!
21-12-2005, 01:59 PM
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In the grand scheme its not a lot to pay for knowing its not going to melt at high speed. If you plan to not use all the performance then its not an issue.
Gonna have to get mine done then
21-12-2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Once in the car, the time at WOT is considerably longer, and the thermal build-up at full load is IMMENSE, so it MUST be checked. Sometimes, you will find very little needs changing,
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
but if you have a wanky intercooler / cooling etc, then you may find ignition needs to be removed and/or fuel added.
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A new Exhaust with Baby sensitive silencers, (Pic borrowed from that bloke who has just bought an Auralis item)
ANOTHER Pro Alloy cooler In black, with a rather trick looking duct set op welded to it
T6?
(Pic borrowed from that bloke who has just bought an Auralis item)ANOTHER Pro Alloy cooler In black, with a rather trick looking duct set op welded to it
T6?
21-12-2005, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Damo,
Bill and myself are going in the new year, as I will have carried out some "top secret" mods by then that will need checking...
Bill and myself are going in the new year, as I will have carried out some "top secret"
mods by then that will need checking...
21-12-2005, 02:51 PM
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Damo,
The exhaust is because I'm fed up with having to run just 1 bar of boost at Bedford
(well spotted regarding photo 
).
The intercooler is a special 65mm thick item that is the maximum width possible (they had my car for a week as a template). Not only has it the ducting, but the radiator is sealed to the intercooler (sames as yours), in an attempt to resolve my cooling issues .
And I think you mean T-sex.
Doing it as a pair of cars is probably the best and I would email him....
The exhaust is because I'm fed up with having to run just 1 bar of boost at Bedford
(well spotted regarding photo ).The intercooler is a special 65mm thick item that is the maximum width possible (they had my car for a week as a template). Not only has it the ducting, but the radiator is sealed to the intercooler (sames as yours
), in an attempt to resolve my cooling issues .And I think you mean T-sex
.Doing it as a pair of cars is probably the best and I would email him...
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21-12-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Damo,
Bill and myself are going in the new year, as I will have carried out some "top secret" mods by then that will need checking...
Bill and myself are going in the new year, as I will have carried out some "top secret"
mods by then that will need checking...Ahmed, should have a suitable map that can be adjusted for my car and/or can extrapolate the settings from my P8. The idea was then to drive to Brunters with Ahmed in the car with the wide-band connected to the T6, so that it could self map for the run there and then do the final tweeking at Brunters
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Originally Posted by Ryan
so mike if i bought a turbo from harvey, i would have to have the engine dyno'd and then det checked at brunters.
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
Instead of making half hearted digs, why don't you, with your vast history of dyno tuned engines, come out and explain EXACTLY what your grievances seem to be, and how you think it could be done better.....?
21-12-2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Ryan
so mike if i bought a turbo from harvey, i would have to have the engine dyno'd and then det checked at brunters.
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
hmmmm
its sounds more and more appealing
so you pay 1k+ for the dyno then have to pay £350 for him to double check it
Instead of making half hearted digs, why don't you, with your vast history of dyno tuned engines, come out and explain EXACTLY what your grievances seem to be, and how you think it could be done better.....?
21-12-2005, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Damo V
What did you use to seal the rad to cooler out of interest?
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